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Punt/Somalilands... a question.

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Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby Teeri » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:06 am

A quick question to Puntland and somaliland......... are ur leaders in the right state of mind?

wher has logic gone dear brothers. isnt it in your self interest to have an independent state at the end of the day?
then why is that somaliland and puntland continue to support the Habashis relentlessly against the ONLF when an independent Ogadeniya can became your buffering zone against the Habashis? like it was historically.

Your have tried foe years to squeeze the ONLF in their war against the habashis, they have prevailed and are succeeding. you have blocked off supplies to the ONLF, tried arresting innocent civilains etc and yet the Habashis seem to be dictating to you on foreign policies and can have their armies cross your territories with out your permission at any given time. they can summon your leaders in Addis ASAP and ask you to hand over any ''ONLF'' at anytime as well as any leader who falls out of line.

SunTzu would be soo disappointed with your short sightedness. what ever happend to my enemy's enemy is my friend?
your nations independence actuallt requires no effort in money, if you are worried of fincancial cost. it can actually happen for free. all you are required to do is not support the ethiopains in their plans, let the ONLF conduct their operations, that is it. by not lifting a finger, you can actually gained independence yet by supporting the habashis u fail to undertsand you increse their power of you and thus weakens your true independence.

yet you seem to be shooting your self in the foot. as long as Ogadeniya is fighting on both fronts, against you and the habashis, you will always be controlled by the ehtiopians.

I find this facinating wallahi. your actually causing your own self enslavement and handing your selfs over to the ehtiopains on a plate yet delude your selfs in thinking your actually in any way enroute to self governance. i am truelly baffled by this.

dont give me excuse of how ethiopia is gona threaten you. she only comes to your lands with your permission. ehtiopia will never dream of crossing your territory if it wasnt with ur blessings, because if she crossed with out your consent, it will be a dream for the ONLF as ethiopia will be sandwiched between us and u. think about tht for a minute.

i am really intrigued by the paradigm of your respective leaders in how to get independence for your lands. it needs total revisioning. let the Ogadens be a friend, after all he was never your enemy, he is fighting for his lands. and remember, you will never be free enough to decide your own destiny unless the Ogadens prevail, as only then will the grip from the ethiopians on your leaders weaken.

Historically, the ogadens have been always been the back bone of other somalis against the Habashis, they could never get to you becaseu the ogadens never let them pass. without them you will always be controlled and divided and thus governed from addis. politics is best placed on self interest, not emotions. :up:

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:30 pm

I am against somaliland's previous policies of relying on ethiopia for all matters including the ONLF. Personally I would like Somaliland to stay neutral on this issue and neither support ONLF or stand in their way.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:34 pm

An independent "Ogadenia" is a bigger threat to Majerteen stability than Ethiopia will ever be, its as simple as that. Ethiopia is only occupying Majerteen regions in the west but Ogadenia's future administration would likely commit genocide like the early 90s when Ogaden in Somalia attempted to wipe out MJs. We learned our lesson fast and I don't think we'll take chances with Ogaden again. Its just politics and in reality we know you guys are hell bent on destroying Majerteen for whatever reason you have.
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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:45 pm

Paidmonk, then why don't you guys stay neutral on the matter, that way you stay true to your principles and at the same time don't look like the bad guy.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:46 pm

Why stay neutral? They want to destroy us, so we should stay neutral? That doesn't make sense. I believe in destroying them before they do the same to us. And at this point, aiding Ethiopia in their mission is the easiest way to doing so. I don't dislike Ogaden people or what they stand for, I just hate their politics.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby EEGA9 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:44 am

I am against somaliland's previous policies of relying on ethiopia for all matters including the ONLF. Personally I would like Somaliland to stay neutral on this issue and neither support ONLF or stand in their way.
Silanyo is doing an excellent Job so far.Clan bigots are on his tail and Ethiopia is fuelling this, he should kick out all Ethiopia intelligence.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby GENERAL_SNM » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:32 pm

You lot cant be trusted history is a good teacher. This time its every somali for himself and our interest would be best served by us being neutral. A strong powerful Ogadeen is bad as a strong powerful Ethiopia. O horta ninyo Ogadeenku did they discover Somalinimo after the fall of MSB, after everybody else has given up?

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby new-york24 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:32 am

Gen,

Actually they were the only ones dumb enough to allways care about somalinimo.One reason why they are never united,if you were to attemp to write a book about the history of somalia,you will find more than one Ogaden/Absame idiot pushing non-somalis out of greater somalia while suffering heavy loses,waa niman qoore weyn and like chevy they are build for tough,to say the least :lol:
As for somaliland and puntland,i dont know what the big fuzz is about,why not let them be.
If a man chooses to be under malez for the time being,while he knows no such thing can last long,specially in africa i say good luck :up:

Teeri,
The dhabayaco kid told you the honest truth,unlike other somalis he has told the absolute truth.
An independent Ogadeina is more of a nightmare to somalis than isreal is to phalistine.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby ToughGong » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:34 am

I am against somaliland's previous policies of relying on ethiopia for all matters including the ONLF. Personally I would like Somaliland to stay neutral on this issue and neither support ONLF or stand in their way.
Co-Sign except for the neutral bit,the Somalinimo in me just couldn't stand idly by
whilst those Habashi bastards are commiting genocide in some parts of Ogaden
It would be a case of "Qowda maqalsii waxna ha u qaban" for the Habashi if I was in power

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby EEGA9 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:10 am

Gen,

Actually they were the only ones dumb enough to allways care about somalinimo.One reason why they are never united,if you were to attemp to write a book about the history of somalia,you will find more than one Ogaden/Absame idiot pushing non-somalis out of greater somalia while suffering heavy loses,waa niman qoore weyn and like chevy they are build for tough,to say the least :lol:
As for somaliland and puntland,i dont know what the big fuzz is about,why not let them be.
If a man chooses to be under malez for the time being,while he knows no such thing can last long,specially in africa i say good luck :up:

Teeri,
The dhabayaco kid told you the honest truth,unlike other somalis he has told the absolute truth.
An independent Ogadeina is more of a nightmare to somalis than isreal is to phalistine.
Ugaas on the spot as usual. :up:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Dad baa naxdin kow dhihi Tigree maalinta laga kiciyo Ogadenia ileen waa nin dhoof ku yimide.
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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby Monk-of-Mogadishu » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:22 am

Insha allah there will always be some type of control from addis ababa in the eastern ethiopian territories. I'm fine with ogadenia being ruled from xamar or addis but not its own capital. Its just a scenario no one wants to deal with since no one is familiar with the idea, the same way no one is ready to deal with a pashtunistan or free tuareg state. Its better to deal with the enemy you know (ethiopia), because even he looks like a friend compared to the enemy you don't know (ogaden people).

I'm not against what ONLF is doing, every clan has a right to self-determination, but my support and encouragement goes to TPLF and her allies.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby EEGA9 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:42 am

Well then the future is bleak for Majeertenia. :|

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby GENERAL_SNM » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:53 am

Majerteen are not emtional people. Take Paidmonk and his cousin the current president of the pirate state, they both have no interest in Darodnimo or Somalinimo but rather their very own selfish interests. Amazing people. In my opinion a free Ogadenia would be hostile to SL and arm all the disfranchised groups to weaken it. The current SL admin will turn a blind eye to ONLF so long as they follow the script and Etheopia will not be given unconditional support.

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby new-york24 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:57 am

Well then the future is bleak for Majeertenia. :|
Notice i dont debate/refute or try to pretent to understand what the Dhabayaco think or bleive.If you were to ask him why his grandfather was called DHAB-YAC and who called him so,kuuma sheegi karo.To leave them alone with pictures of shanty dasert villages and throw them a kudos every once in a while is the way to go :up:

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Re: Punt/Somalilands... a question.

Postby new-york24 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:00 am

Majerteen are not emtional people
Agreed,if they were emotional they would have had displays of card board box planes in groowe.


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