Some of the lower Jubba Beeraha(pics)

[Murax]

Habar Gidir dominated Xamar since 1990 and actually had a large population in the city before the civil war yet they are nowhere even close to being the majority.

Thats Habar Gedir and Xamar, We are talking Kismaayo/Marexaan. Xamar was a city no matter how shitty it was, had a population of 2 million people. Having HG be a majority would mean there are over a million and a few hundred thousand HG in Mogadshu. Bad analogy


Ofcourse Marexaan in Kismaayo do not outnumber everybody else put together, but far, far outnumber any single clan by themselves even Kab-Lax. You do not talk to any independent/neutral folks that have been to Kismaayo to tell You MR numbers there. Having a major stake in the commercial capitol and prize of the whole region is a much better barometer of who's dominant in the region. If I can take it back would I rather have those thousands of Marexaans who migrated to Kismaayo inhabit little unknown tuulos to say we are the majority in the "Gobol"? If Kablalax had such a strong presence in this countryside as You mention, what were they doing watching Marexaan in Kismaayo for ten years?

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

What's neutral to you? Both Majerteen & Ogaden have agreed that Marehan have very little population in Jubbada Hoose, even the Bajuun guy Sir-Luggoyo has made this point. Who is verifying the Marehan claim that you have a large population in the city or anywhere in Jubbada Hoose.

And you asked how it was possible that Marehan took Kismayo? Good timing and a plan. Did Cayr outnumber Biimaal and Tunni in Marka? Population means nothing against an organized militia.

But this still doesn't answer the big question - where do Marehan reside in Jubbada Hoose? Any towns or villages in particular?

[Murax]

[quote="Monk-of-Mogadishu"]What's neutral to you? Both Majerteen & Ogaden have agreed that Marehan have very little population in Jubbada Hoose, even the Bajuun guy Sir-Luggoyo has made this point. Who is verifying the Marehan claim that you have a large population in the city or anywhere in Jubbada Hoose.

And you asked how it was possible that Marehan took Kismayo? Good timing and a plan. Did Cayr outnumber Biimaal and Tunni in Marka? Population means nothing against an organized militia.

But this still doesn't answer the big question - where do Marehan reside in Jubbada Hoose? Any towns or villages in particular?[/quote]



My answer is We dominate the commercial capitol. Is it ours exlusively? No, but We are the dominant clan. Sade was the only clan that for a year and a half was able to say "Maamulka Beesha Sade ee Kismaayo". I never in My life heard Maamulka Kaballax, Maamulka Hawiye, etc.

and @ orginized militia". There never was no orginized militia in Somalia. Everybody clan has a gun and when their hogaamiye says fight they fight. The reason they watched is because You inflate and buunbuuni Your numbers. Just like the thread Where Puntland fought 10 Warsangeli in the mountains and You said they defeated Al Qaeda.


Anyway to put this to rest one thing We can all agree on, talk is cheap and to the victor go the spoils. So far Morgan has been out the seen for 20 years, and this Ghandi fellow I keep hearing about from the Cagdheers is nowhere to be seen. The only person so far who is not in Ethiopia or Kenya is Barre Hiiraale and He's looking South. If and When He makes it back to Kista what are You gonna say? I'm bookmarking this page

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

WHEN Hiirale makes it to Kismayo this time without help it will prove he's a brilliant tactician, nothing more. Is his trip to Kismayo supposed to prove a Marehan demographic presence in Jubbada Hoose?

But, you stated here, for the record - that Marehan do not live anywhere in Jubbada Hoose besides Kismayo? That's all we were trying to get at here. And what exactly do Marehan dominate in Kismayo? Any particular businesses owned by Marehan? Any neighborhoods in particular that Marehan are majority? Everything you guys say seems to be very vague and general.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Mareexaan/Ogaden?Harti tug of war over Kismayo




Seriously if a neutral were to ask who lives in this city they would never get a straight answer. Personally it could be a .5 city same for Jamaame and Jilb

[Teeri]

Interesting debates, Murax, you are a very hard headed man. Paidmonk is just teasing you. You know alshaba is the realy enemy in Jubbaland today. and u know merahsn have more rights to kismayo then he does or ever will after cagdheeres.

why do support Hiraale so much when he divided up merehan when he sided with the haweeyes and kicked out 5000 mereahns when he took over Kismayo in 98 with the HELP of the haweeys? Hirrale didnt give a shit about you merehans, he was there to maximise his profits and loot hence why he wiorked with the very group that shot you down from the top of somali politics, he was cursed and called a boon by your own elders for working with the haweeye and creating enmity with Absame. he aint coming back, and if he does, he will be a touris at the most in kismayos beaches.

why are also evading the question Paidmonk asked you of naming the degans of merehans in jubbada hoose? becaseu you know the truth. merehan lives in gedo and even there he shares it with cagdheere. work with us Absames, you know no other people have any love for you left and your closest cousins the MJs are your biggest haters. man there is so much hate from them towards your lot its caajiib.

why do make such outlandhish claims such as your the dominant clan in kismayo '' culturally/population'' yet u admit having only been there since 98 with the HELP of the haweeyes that brought your government down. only hurrale with a few huingary thugs were there and u claim as if the whole merahns scartered away from the water deficient gedo desert and into kismayo.

tell people the truth. must merehans support the Absame camp soon liberating the Jubbalands and a very few marginalist hardcore like snet MR support hiraale. you will go back to being a small fish in the ocean if you dont join your cagdheer cousins in their more important fight againts the habashis by not being a thorne in JL plans as u know all loved have been lost for MR leadership and no one will evr take that risk again.

[GENERAL_SNM]

You fockers cant share a third rate city like Kismayo how do you plan to share a country.
Seriously I think Kismayo is prove that the main reason why Somalia has cease to exist as a country is because its infected with a virus called Darod greed and short sightedness.

[xoogSADE14]

If only somnet had any bearing whatsoever on the situation back home. Some people here would have been kings and queens.

[guhad122]

what happened to the sade degaan's in jubbaland? why didnt he stop to re-fule and re-arm?why run all the to baardheere

Does anyone have an answer for this question? It can't be that hard to answer if you actually live in the region.

No takers here.
Now compare that with when Axmed Blakie and his Caanoole allies when they were kicked out of the city; they stopped at so many places and fought back at so many places such as Siinka Dheer, Goobweyn, Qooqaani, Janaay Cabdalle, Diif, Afmadow, Dhoobley, and many other places. They kept fighting for over a year because the people are theirs and the land is theirs.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

No takers here.
Now compare that with when Axmed Blakie and his Caanoole allies when they were kicked out of the city; they stopped at so many places and fought back at so many places such as Siinka Dheer, Goobweyn, Qooqaani, Janaay Cabdalle, Diif, Afmadow, Dhoobley, and many other places. They kept fighting for over a year because the people are theirs and the land is theirs.

Not even Axmed Madoobe & Caanoole - even Afguduud back in 2007 retreated to Buloguduud and he stayed there for months and defended from militias coming after him.

[Murax]

No takers here.
Now compare that with when Axmed Blakie and his Caanoole allies when they were kicked out of the city; they stopped at so many places and fought back at so many places such as Siinka Dheer, Goobweyn, Qooqaani, Janaay Cabdalle, Diif, Afmadow, Dhoobley, and many other places. They kept fighting for over a year because the people are theirs and the land is theirs.

Not even Axmed Madoobe & Caanoole - even Afguduud back in 2007 retreated to Buloguduud and he stayed there for months and defended from militias coming after him.

[Berke]

the Bajuun guy Sir-Luggoyo

Luggooye is Weyteen Absame. He is no baajuun.

[HalfDzed]

So, what happens to the predominantly non-Daarood populations in Jubba?

[new-york24]

So, what happens to the predominantly non-Daarood populations in Jubba?

As amiir turki once said.."dadka kii badan iyo kii laga badan yahay,labadaba shariicada islaamkaa ku filan".

huraale or madoobe or gaandhi are old news,mark my words they will never set foot in kismaayo again.

paidmonk,
Did you get the answers you were looking for?

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

paidmonk,
Did you get the answers you were looking for?

No, I don't think there is actual answer.