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Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:20 pm
by greenday
Elite i said you are Somali but not from Somalia, Is a person from Djibouti who happens to be Somali from Somalia? and no am not saying if you are smaller you have a less of a role but if something is being shared based on qabiil you cant use "ogaden" but only the subcans who live in Somali right.
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:25 pm
by eliteSomali
Elite i said you are Somali but not from Somalia, Is a person from Djibouti who happens to be Somali from Somalia? and no am not saying if you are smaller you have a less of a role but if something is being shared based on qabiil you cant use "ogaden" but only the subcans who live in Somali right.
So then what constitutes Somali? How can you say I am Somali but not from somalia while simultaneously holding the idea that being Somali is instituted by birth in Somalia? Do you see the paradox there? You're self contradicting here. TO your second part, did you not urge ogadens to seek political dominance or political roles outside of somalia because they're small in numbers? again this conflicts with your earlier comment.
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:30 pm
by greenday
Elite i said you are Somali but not from Somalia, Is a person from Djibouti who happens to be Somali from Somalia? and no am not saying if you are smaller you have a less of a role but if something is being shared based on qabiil you cant use "ogaden" but only the subcans who live in Somali right.
So then what constitutes Somali? How can you say I am Somali but not from somalia while simultaneously holding the idea that being Somali is instituted by birth in Somalia? You're self contradicting here. TO your second part, did you not urge ogadens to seek political dominance or political roles outside of somalia because they're small in numbers? again this conflicts with your earlier comment.
I dont remember saying you have to be born is Somalia to be Somali

i think you think all Somalis have the same right to Somalia

and again i said only sub clans of the ogadens live in Somalia and so you guys wont have the same impact as other clan, am sure when they share the seats among darood ogadens dont get as many seats as the majeerten or the mareexan because all their sub clans live in Somalia.
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:34 pm
by eliteSomali
Elite i said you are Somali but not from Somalia, Is a person from Djibouti who happens to be Somali from Somalia? and no am not saying if you are smaller you have a less of a role but if something is being shared based on qabiil you cant use "ogaden" but only the subcans who live in Somali right.
So then what constitutes Somali? How can you say I am Somali but not from somalia while simultaneously holding the idea that being Somali is instituted by birth in Somalia? You're self contradicting here. TO your second part, did you not urge ogadens to seek political dominance or political roles outside of somalia because they're small in numbers? again this conflicts with your earlier comment.
I dont remember saying you have to be born is Somalia to be Somali

i think you think
all Somalis have the same right to Somalia 
and again i said only sub clans of the ogadens live in Somalia and so you guys wont have the same impact as other clan, am sure when they share the seats among darood ogadens dont get as many seats as the majeerten or the mareexan because all their sub clans live in Somalia.
That's precisely my point. Despite ogaaden not being entirely present in somalia, but the bit there are still as large as a whole subclan. Tell me where do abgaals predominantly inhabit? when I say predominant I mean more than 70 percent concentration.
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:39 pm
by greenday
Elite Somalia for all Somalis is not going to work is it? and Abgaals live in shabeele hose/dhexe benadir mudug and galgaduud mainly on the east, i do hope you are not going to say bigger land=bigger population

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:45 pm
by eliteSomali

If that doesn't work then the status quo shall remain. Indeed I am fearsome for the posterity.
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:48 pm
by greenday
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:50 pm
by eliteSomali
just because the president of somalia is abgaal doesn't mean you decide who is/isn't welcomed in somalia.

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:51 pm
by Executive
Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:54 pm
by greenday
just because the president of somalia is abgaal doesn't mean you decide who is/isn't welcomed in somalia.

Its not me sxb the new constitution and abdiwale say no

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:56 pm
by OAF
How you gonna welcome us anyways when you can't even go back to where you come from

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:58 pm
by eliteSomali
Tell 'em I said to kindly fornicate with a knife.

One somalia under my rule as a dictator or the status quo. yall peeps choose ur pick.

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:59 pm
by greenday
How you gonna welcome us anyways when you can't even go back to where you come from

And who told you i cant?
Do you guys really think that all Somalis will have the same right to Somalia

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:00 pm
by greenday
Tell 'em I said to kindly fornicate with a knife.

One somalia under my rule as a dictator or the status quo. yall peeps choose ur pick.

Good luck

Re: Absame elders: Loyal to the TFG
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:09 pm
by The_Emperior5
I believe Ogadens have tribal settlements in the Juba regions of Somalia so their claim to be from Somalia is legitimate So who can deny their tribal homeland and say they are not welcome in Somalia? by the way you guys should read the new constitution apparently if you stay 5 years in Somalia you can be a Somali according to the new constitution.
