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Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby The_Emperior5 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:31 pm

hanqadh wrote:haye somali-galbeed dhulka yaa u yaqaana? ama journal, ama war kale, ama Dawlad, NGO, U.N kuli Ogaden baa dhulka loo yaqaanaa no one forced it down anyones throat.

Ogaden Berlin conference baa loogu bixiyay, waa magac gumeysi ah and until xornimo waa magaca dib loogu raadsan xoriyada.


Ogaden wa run Gumeysi ba bixiye Hasa yeeshe aniga waxay ila tahay haday Xornimo qadaadto ogaden shacabka Daga Dhulkaas ha u codeyaan Magac , imika ogaden hala sii yidha laakin markay xoroowdo shacabweynaha Dhulka dagan afti ha laga qaado inay magacan rabban iyo in kale. Seems fair.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby hanqadh » Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:18 pm

^talagalku waa sidaa, Jabhada JWXO oo hormuudka hada u ah xoriyada Ogaden way ku celceliyeen in badan Magac somaliyeed oo lawada wadaago in afti dadka looga qaadi,dadka gobolka ayaa la wareegi talada oo aayahooda ka tashan, wayna dhici Inshallah.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby Queen_Arawello » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:53 pm

Ever since the Berlineise Conference of 1884 the region has been known as Ogaden so changing a region name is way over the top we must have a bit of respect for history.The name doesn't make any difference here. This is the card ethiopians used telling other clans in the region that this is not their war. It's part of the divide policy of the regime.? Why must you dwell on a trivial useless issue as a name over an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years?


Why should it be named Somali-Galbeed? The region is NOT located in Somalia. It is called Ogadenia and it will continue to be called Ogadenia.

What is your fear of this clan having their name on a region? Fear that another clan has whole region while your clan(insert clan A) doesnt have?

Naming the region somaligalbeed will reinforce ideas that the ONLF is fighting to reunite with Somalia. Doing so will make it seem like the ONLF is opting to seperate from Ethiopia to create greater somalia, which will cause negative reaction from the international community, thus forcing them to lose credibility for their cause. This is a war between Ethiopia and the inhabitants of Ogaden. we are not going to jeopardize that by naming ourselves "Somaligalbeed' or anything in reference to Somalia as a means of pleasing people like u.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby lali99 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:14 pm

^^the reason the name has to be changed is to include all somali tribes that lives in tha region..do you honestly think that by keeping the name ogadenia will help further the idnependancy of tha region while it has a certain clan name....what you havent realize is that its been so many years that ONLF has been fighting for self-autonomy and at no one point did they actually became close to attain it that goal..even at the weakess point of ethiopia, ONLF couldnt make a tend in term of their goal...the reason why? bcuz ethiopia could easily counterattact by using the somali clan card and use it to create feuds between somalis...so since this is the issue and we could all see ethiopia cards why not counterattack and create a new name that will encompass all somali...this tactic of naming the region ogaden was done by the emperior of ethiopia to divide and conquer..its the same way that french did with jabuuti when they called it territory of ciise and afar instead of somali and afars..they always use a powerful clan but that does not represent a clear majority in the whole population...

also ogaden are not the majority of somalis in kiliinka shanaad so how to you think will happen if ever they are granted independance ( a mini somalia part 2)..it will be clan versus clan..

finally if theres a jabhaad that include all clans and somali tribes were in the same boat, i believe ethiopia will be taking them seriously..but a jbhaad that represent a clan that is not majority, well thats another story...

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby zingii » Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:37 am

If the name was changed to something a more genral, other clans who live in that area would have been fighting with you guys intead of fighting against you. I cant see things changing for the better by clinging on to this name as if you settle in the entire area by your self. Other clans need to feel included so they can partake in the strugle in large numbers and take the qashin out for good.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby uglybrother » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:11 am

It's rather amusing that every cat wants to drop that 'if the name was changed' line. So what if there are other clans in the area? Why haven't they fought? I am sure something as trivial as a name didn't keep them in their homes when thousands of their brothers and sisters were getting massacred. If they reside by the land and have been for generations, then what more do they want? A representation? Really? So If they won't fight for a land that they have been living in for generations, what makes you think they will fight just because they are reperesented? If anything, it sounds like those other clans want to live in the land without a fight, and their excuse is 'change the name'. Moreover, why should I care about a name in the event a muslim/somali brother/sister is in need of my assistance? Ogaden is a land and ONLF, though they might have been abortive at times, have been successful over the years. Ethiopia is a might military power, and has been superpower as far primitive ages. These are the people that were recognized as superpower in the time of the prophet pbuh, so clearly they won't be defeated easily. All of you who ask for a name change, either fight for your people regardless of a name, unconditionally or simply sht the fock up.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby shiniile9 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:57 am

Majority defeats minority thats a basic democratic statement. You dont need an excuse to cheerlead your Ethio-masters. You may do so as long as you wish without Ogaden blah blah. :down: . This cause hab been and will continue without you. Keep on moaning.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby Shift » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:53 am

zingii wrote:If the name was changed to something a more genral, other clans who live in that area would have been fighting with you guys intead of fighting against you. I cant see things changing for the better by clinging on to this name as if you settle in the entire area by your self. Other clans need to feel included so they can partake in the strugle in large numbers and take the qashin out for good.


If other's are happy with their present condition than so be it,hiilka aan ka sugi nin magac ka hinaasay waa maxay?.This train aint stoping for anyone awoow,not even the celi guy who is in the weelchair,do keep in mind nimaan dhiig u daadin naftiisana u hurin OGADENIA inuusan koob shaah ah ka cabi doonin. :up:

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby metamorphosis » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:01 am

Hataa hadaan diidno inaan magaca badalno, a true Somali would never let his brother die abti. aniga somali iyo amxaar haday islaynayaan somaligaan u hiilin laha despite haduu qabiil u dagaalamayo iyo hadii kale. Marka ama somalida walaalahaa la dagaalam ama iska aamus oo arinta dhan faraha kalabax. We don't want your suggestions. Either be out or be in, never be in btwn cuz dats dangerous shyt.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby Shift » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:11 am

Meta,

Waligaa waxaa ha dhageesan,nin ku leh "hadaad saa sameen laheed ana saan baan yeeli lahaa",micnaha waxaa weeye am gonna sit here and stuff my face while you do all the lifting.

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Re: Why is Somali Galbeed called Ogadenia? That is deception

Postby metamorphosis » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:27 am

Shift wrote:Meta,

Waligaa waxaa ha dhageesan,nin ku leh "hadaad saa sameen laheed ana saan baan yeeli lahaa",micnaha waxaa weeye am gonna sit here and stuff my face while you do all the lifting.

waa saas abti. Waa marmarsiyo. hadaad mar dhulka nooshahay dhulka so adiguba malihid? Cadoow goortuu soo galo maxaad u difaaci waysay? Aniga waxaan oran lahaa hadaad moodeen in Ogadeniya ogaden keliya ku nooshahay, iskaga baxa oo ana kaliya aan degnaano aana u dagaalano. laakiin waan dagnaan, dagaalkina kuma jiri sababtoo ah adaa iska leh dhulka isma keeneyso midaas. aniga waxaan dhihi lahaa xornimo markay imaato, wixii lahaa magaca badala iyo sheekooyinkaasoo kale hala qaraaco.


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