Gedobursi-Warsangeli-Ciise-Dhulbahante poll

[JSL3000]

You used Djibouti as an example, Somalis with Ciise majority are 65%, the Cafaar are 30% but the minister are divided 6 for Ciise 6 for Cafaar. Parliament 65, 30 Ciise, 30 Canfar and 5 other Somalis and Arab.

65% is not ciise only, that 65% percent represent somalida degta djibouti and half of that 65% is Isaaq and gadabursi but you never see canfar or Isaaq or even gadabursi president of djibouti that place is a soft dictatorship alx I'm from somaliland.

[Ben Dover]

I agree that Somaliland is more willing to share, but remember we are clans and when Somaliland forces are perceived to be taking sides in clan skirmishes it leads to negative image of the state and its leadership. Instead of force, diplomacy must be used. I believe we don't have a perfect sharing of power but better than the rest, we can work on it to make it better. And we must compromise on both sides, and bring in the leadership of our clans.

The government is not without fault, but let me assure you, my very own HJ were as critical of the government's management of recent clan skirmishes and as dissatisfied with the eventual resolution as yours, I am sure, were.

But this is much larger than clan skirmishes, these have always happened and will continue to erupt as long as we keep to our nomadic ways. But by being involved in the political process you ensure that the government and its apparatus would never take sides, and if they do they take your side of the argument.

[JSL3000]

In somaliland if dhulbahante don't vote for their leaders we can't share nothing because this nation is based on democracy that's only way you move up the latter and some people don't like how each political party had dhulbahante members that not even elected by there people so xaglatoosiye, cali sandule, khaliif abdirisaq and others are trying change this in the up coming elections hopefully they'll be a bigger turnout.

[JSL3000]

Fair representation is always difficult to get in many nations but It's not impossible it just takes the time and right combination don't forget somaliland political power sharing is based on regions the six original states it just dhulos have to vote and fill their seat if they don't just more isaaq and gadabursi will keep taking their seats don't forget we have gabooye and fiqishini and others waiting in line to grab more seats.

We had better balance in cigaal AUN his adminstration actually had fair balanced representation what happen latter on was the political parties represent the major voter population so tribal alliance were formed which is good and bad and it's up to next administration and future ones to solve these issues somaliland is still growing on its own.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Guban I known Dj has many Somalis but majority is Ciise, and yeah you have to vote in something you believe in there are many western nations were people abstain from voting in protest including the USA. There are Parliamentary and Presidential and local elections, Ministers, deputies, the Elders, military officers, department heads, others post are nominated so that would be a good start.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

I agree that Somaliland is more willing to share, but remember we are clans and when Somaliland forces are perceived to be taking sides in clan skirmishes it leads to negative image of the state and its leadership. Instead of force, diplomacy must be used. I believe we don't have a perfect sharing of power but better than the rest, we can work on it to make it better. And we must compromise on both sides, and bring in the leadership of our clans.

The government is not without fault, but let me assure you, my very own HJ were as critical of the government's management of recent clan skirmishes and as dissatisfied with the eventual resolution as yours, I am sure, were.

But this is much larger than clan skirmishes, these have always happened and will continue to erupt as long as we keep to our nomadic ways. But by being involved in the political process you ensure that the government and its apparatus would never take sides, and if they do they take your side of the argument.

That's what I'm saying if Hj and Isaaq feels dissatiesfied You can guess what others would feel. But yeah the more involved in elections and the political process the more you get

[JSL3000]

Princenugaal I'm for fair representation the more people satisfied with the system the better it is for the nation but we haven't reach that level yet maybe one day insha allah

"Practice makes perfect" that's my motto.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Yes I understand. it will also show the world that

A- This is a Democracy
B- The population is represented
C- Its Citizens are happy with the political process

Then onto recognition, Economic & Political maturity, development in Education, Health Care and infrastructure.

What's also needed is competency people who can do the job Kaarti dad leeh oo waax qabaan Kara not just because they are your clan.

[Rambie]

Ok Prince, what other system do you purpose aside from 1 man 1 vote in you opinion is a fair representation to your people?

[theyuusuf143]

Princenugaal

Out of all the Somali states Somaliland authority is the only one that its leadership never used their seat or uniform to subdue their rival clans. Even if you become the Somaliland president today you may karbaash your own dhuloos for good but you will never dare to karbaash isaaqs. This is our political culture and its the best kept secret that Somaliland managed its clan conflicts. Some people may say silanyo supported his clan during the buhotle conflicts but we habarjeclo beleive the opposite and thats the truth . Even rayale subdued his own samarons in favour of isse , only when silanyo came samaron got their fair share i selel region.

Today dhuloos have big political chance if they participate the democratization process. I advice you register your people and vote the elections. Only those who vote the most have best chances in Somaliland. If habar jeclo and gadabursi managed to put their own in the highest seat democratically i dont see why dhuloos cant. All you need is join the system and have your own alliance. Simple.

[ZubairDragon]

eydoor democracy is fake Prince wallaahay

[JSL3000]

^your cagdheer outsider you belong to ethiopia and kenya.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

The Yusuf out of all the recognized Somali states today, their current situation, and political culture, the one that closely fits our desires and wishes would be SL, we have waited for a Somali state to no avail, we have joined a neighbor inorder to reach those desires and they have done everything an ignoble people can do. We will not wait for another 25 years, but hopefully Dhulbahante Elders, Gerad and political leaders hopefully can see this. We can influence the politics by supporting a party an making an alliance.

Rambie, everyone can't be president a fair representation and justice is all that's needed the rest will take care of its self. Everyone can't be president all we need is a reconciliation between us and the govt, who ever leads the nation is expected to better the economic situation, education, health facilities, wells, infrastructure, roads, communication etc..Petroleum and Gas & Mining resources could help and sharing those resources between the regions.

Zubeir inaabti the isaaqs in DDSI share with Absame, and here would be the same.

[ZubairDragon]

eydor democracy is fake Prince they want u to celebrate 18 may like eydoors

[X.Playa]

Eager isaaq boys don't seem to understand what the minorities in Somaliland wants, these guys wants to have their cake and eat it too.

If a hj man wins they see him as isaaq, if h.a wins they see him as isaaq and if h.y wins they see him as isaaq, so what do they want?

What they want is a law that would equate isaaq to the minorities and give them not only half of all the ministerial positions but a law that grantees their presidential term. In essence they want to rule isaaq in their sea, anything less then that its never fair with them. They will not accept the law of nature of majority rules.

Am the first to say that what they want is impossible, all three isaaq large clans compete at sub level if they can't play with the big boys too bad, the other option is to allay with other subclans, something the daarood are not willing todo.

I myself will never ever vote for non isaaq president, its just a universal wisdom.