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Poor Weydamal,

When his alternative facts were debunked he diverted from the main issue in order to hide his shame.

The only people who hunted wild game for a living, who offered their daughters to Iidoor (traders) in exchange for commodities such as food, clothes and water were Doofaar Ismaciil.

Makayte is using the common Dofaar Ismaciil tactic of projection, he was projecting the reality of his Cagdheer clan.

During the period of administrative chaos which followed the war, the Isaaq used their superior strength against both the Ogaadeen and the Dhulbahante. They looted many Ogaadeen herds, captured some of their wells and water ponds, and dislodged them from a large part of their grazing areas in the Hawd. The Isaaq onslaught was so powerful that the Ogaadeen could put up little to no resistance, and did not even try to avenge their wrong. Some of the clans, however after being looted and pushed southward, developed a modus vivendi with the Isaaq and intermarried with them. The Dhulbahante, who were also pushed out of some of their areas, were very uncomfortable under the Isaaq pressure and Ali Duuh, who were one of their leaders recited a poem, which was obviously designed to stir up courage and desire for revenge among the Ogaadeen...

... Ali Duuh also lamented over the plight of the Ogaadeen who, through their unwillingness to fight, had reached such depths of humiliation as having to hunt wild game for their subsistence, and even take up agriculture.

Again he was projecting the reality of his/your clan and the non Somali names in the abtirsi such as Kuumade and Koomba. Abahaa iyo kombihii ku dhalayba was.

Ubuur is Dofaar Ismaciil mythology and made up equivalent for Kuumba and Koomada.

Poor Weydamal,

When his alternative facts were debunked he diverted from the main issue in order to hide his shame.

The only people who hunted wild game for a living, who offered their daughters to Iidoor (traders) in exchange for commodities such as food, clothes and water were Doofaar Ismaciil.

Makayte is using the common Dofaar Ismaciil tactic of projection, he was projecting the reality of his Cagdheer clan.

During the period of administrative chaos which followed the war, the Isaaq used their superior strength against both the Ogaadeen and the Dhulbahante. They looted many Ogaadeen herds, captured some of their wells and water ponds, and dislodged them from a large part of their grazing areas in the Hawd. The Isaaq onslaught was so powerful that the Ogaadeen could put up little to no resistance, and did not even try to avenge their wrong. Some of the clans, however after being looted and pushed southward, developed a modus vivendi with the Isaaq and intermarried with them. The Dhulbahante, who were also pushed out of some of their areas, were very uncomfortable under the Isaaq pressure and Ali Duuh, who were one of their leaders recited a poem, which was obviously designed to stir up courage and desire for revenge among the Ogaadeen...

... Ali Duuh also lamented over the plight of the Ogaadeen who, through their unwillingness to fight, had reached such depths of humiliation as having to hunt wild game for their subsistence, and even take up agriculture.

Again he was projecting the reality of his/your clan and the non Somali names in the abtirsi such as Kuumade and Koomba. Abahaa iyo kombihii ku dhalayba was.

Ubuur is Dofaar Ismaciil mythology and made up equivalent for Kuumba and Koomada.

Idoor have been well recorded in history to give up their woman to the British to be displayed in the human zoo of Europe. Theyy were licking ass to that extent.
They were displayed as animals and taken photos with. Idoor woman were like the gorilla 'the star attraction' for their animal like features and instincts. THAT IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING THAT HAPPENED TO A SOMALI CLAN. THEY ARE ALSO KNOWN TO MARRY WITH MIDGAAN IN ORDER TO INCREASE THEIR NUMBERS. EVEN THE SULTAN OF MIDGAANS WARNED IDOORS TO LEAVE THEM ALONE OR ELSE THEY WON'T GIVE THEM THEIR GIRLS. HAHAHA TRUTH HURTS

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three villages? lol I can list about 15 on top of my head. How many HJ villages can you name in Erigavo district? because the only one i can recall is xiis.
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http://imgur.com/a1N6zza
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You are being desperate sxb.

Do you see me citing random maps that we made up? The maps you see above are made by unbiased 3rd party observers whereas you bring me your mafrish maps.

You have 3 villages of any worth in Sanaag, everyone knows this. If you want to reach into your txt file with 200 random names and call them settlements be my guest, but we are dealing with facts here.

Speaking of facts:

- The only survey of the region shows Isaaq subclans surrounding Ceerigaabo from all corners.

- All maps I quoted above clearly show Ceerigabo to be Isaaq deegaan.

- Prior to independence all elected representatives from Ceerigaabo were Isaaq.

- Post union the only seat from Ceerigaabo went to an Isaaq.

- You only held Ceerigaabo due to government assistance.

- Post liberation you were removed from the region.

- Today Isaaq completely dominate the city.

These are the facts that we have. Good day to you.

And that's is the same reason why you have control of the city in the present day, like I keep saying! Lol

These maps you keep posting are out date sxb. Plus the Isaaq & harti border is not just huge curved line.

Settlement trends have changed. You can't deny that Dhulos have a huge presence in Erigavo city, more so than your HJ clan.

How can it be "isaaq" degaan when yourself are aware and admitting that other clans live there.

Even the immediately adjecent degaan of masagan (south of erigavo) is Dhulos territory. And everything along the main road southwards to Las Anod is also Dhulos.

Habar jeclo in Sanaag and Ceerigaabo are so few that they are insignificant. It's a waste of time to debate with these midgets about Sanaag or Ceerigaabo. Dhulbahante, as Sharmarke rightly points out, occupy The heart of Ceerigaabo, all the way to Laascaanood in an unbroken chain. There are Dhulbahante towns surrounding Ceerigaabo like Dhaxamo, Masagan and Biyo Guduud which are between 10 and 30 km from Ceerigaabo.

If you travel south from the heart of Ceerigaabo where Dhulbahante live in large numbers, you will pass through Dhulbahante settlements and town, from Dibqarax, Ardaa, Fiqi Fuliye, Awrboogays, Xuddun all the way to Laascaanood.


Going eastwards from Ceerigaabo is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli deegaan, all the way to Boosaaso.

Markaasaad laangaab habarjeclo hunters and gatherers nacnacleynaysaan.

Habar jeclo in Sanaag and Ceerigaabo are so few that they are insignificant. It's a waste of time to debate with these midgets about Sanaag or Ceerigaabo. Dhulbahante, as Sharmarke rightly points out, occupy The heart of Ceerigaabo, all the way to Laascaanood in an unbroken chain. There are Dhulbahante towns surrounding Ceerigaabo like Dhaxamo, Masagan and Biyo Guduud which are between 10 and 30 km from Ceerigaabo.

If you travel south from the heart of Ceerigaabo where Dhulbahante live in large numbers, you will pass through Dhulbahante settlements and town, from Dibqarax, Ardaa, Fiqi Fuliye, Awrboogays, Xuddun all the way to Laascaanood.


Going eastwards from Ceerigaabo is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli deegaan, all the way to Boosaaso.

Markaasaad laangaab habarjeclo hunters and gatherers nacnacleynaysaan.

U forgot burco is also our city. It's 65% dhulbahante. We may have lost hargeisa and berbera but we ain't losing burco. Pls don't pay attention to these langgaabs

Habar jeclo in Sanaag and Ceerigaabo are so few that they are insignificant. It's a waste of time to debate with these midgets about Sanaag or Ceerigaabo. Dhulbahante, as Sharmarke rightly points out, occupy The heart of Ceerigaabo, all the way to Laascaanood in an unbroken chain. There are Dhulbahante towns surrounding Ceerigaabo like Dhaxamo, Masagan and Biyo Guduud which are between 10 and 30 km from Ceerigaabo.

If you travel south from the heart of Ceerigaabo where Dhulbahante live in large numbers, you will pass through Dhulbahante settlements and town, from Dibqarax, Ardaa, Fiqi Fuliye, Awrboogays, Xuddun all the way to Laascaanood.


Going eastwards from Ceerigaabo is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli deegaan, all the way to Boosaaso.

Markaasaad laangaab habarjeclo hunters and gatherers nacnacleynaysaan.

U forgot burco is also our city. It's 65% dhulbahante. We may have lost hargeisa and berbera but we ain't losing burco. Pls don't pay attention to these langgaabs

lol
Burco use to be ours, so did garowe.

Our degaan stretched from the Sheikh mountains to Eyl on the Indian Ocean coast.

but those times have past, we need to concentrate our current Territory.

we have enough land alhamdulilah.

Habar jeclo in Sanaag and Ceerigaabo are so few that they are insignificant. It's a waste of time to debate with these midgets about Sanaag or Ceerigaabo. Dhulbahante, as Sharmarke rightly points out, occupy The heart of Ceerigaabo, all the way to Laascaanood in an unbroken chain. There are Dhulbahante towns surrounding Ceerigaabo like Dhaxamo, Masagan and Biyo Guduud which are between 10 and 30 km from Ceerigaabo.

If you travel south from the heart of Ceerigaabo where Dhulbahante live in large numbers, you will pass through Dhulbahante settlements and town, from Dibqarax, Ardaa, Fiqi Fuliye, Awrboogays, Xuddun all the way to Laascaanood.


Going eastwards from Ceerigaabo is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli deegaan, all the way to Boosaaso.

Markaasaad laangaab habarjeclo hunters and gatherers nacnacleynaysaan.

U forgot burco is also our city. It's 65% dhulbahante. We may have lost hargeisa and berbera but we ain't losing burco. Pls don't pay attention to these langgaabs

lol
Burco use to be ours, so did garowe.

Our degaan stretched from the Sheikh mountains to Eyl on the Indian Ocean coast.

but those times have past, we need to concentrate our current Territory.

we have enough land alhamdulilah.

Haaheeey

And that's is the same reason why you have control of the city in the present day, like I keep saying! Lol

These maps you keep posting are out date sxb. Plus the Isaaq & harti border is not just huge curved line.

Settlement trends have changed. You can't deny that Dhulos have a huge presence in Erigavo city, more so than your HJ clan.

How can it be "isaaq" degaan when yourself are aware and admitting that other clans live there.

Even the immediately adjecent degaan of masagan (south of erigavo) is Dhulos territory. And everything along the main road southwards to Las Anod is also Dhulos.

You have not disputed a single point I have raised

- The only survey of the region shows Isaaq subclans surrounding Ceerigaabo from all corners.
- All maps I quoted above clearly show Ceerigabo to be Isaaq deegaan.
- Prior to independence all elected representatives from Ceerigaabo were Isaaq.
- Post union the only seat from Ceerigaabo went to an Isaaq.
- You only held Ceerigaabo due to government assistance.
- Post liberation you were removed from the region.
- Today Isaaq completely dominate the city.

History, 3rd party observers, political representation past AND present, current control all point to Isaaq being dominent in Ceerigaabo.

The only thing you commented on was current control. You held Ceerigaabo with the help of the entire Somali state. Isaaq today hold it on their own. Even in the late 80s and 90s, when the government armed you to fight us you were driven out by Isaaq only. To claim that the state is helping us today is disingenuous to say the least. There was no Somaliland state when you were removed from the deegaan by HY, and you were armed by Barre to boot.

The only bit of plausible proof you have are the Somaliland local election numbers, and I have stated many times how irregular these were. You have nothing else. I have even asked you since you are clinging so much to these numbers, if you are going to accept the voter registration numbers when they come out and you conveniently ignored the question

I do not deny that some families may be living there, but they are small in numbers, and thus could not claim the city.

Facts remain that Isaaq won every single election in Ceerigaabo. 1960, 1961, 1969.

All neutral observers declare Ceerigaabo to be Isaaq town







Even in discussing deegaans, Isaaq and Warsangali are cited to live in Ceerigabo district but Dhulbahante isnt:


You have no case mate. You may have lived there during the booliqaran days using the Somali state, but Ceerigaabo is no deegaan of yours.

That, or maybe there are phantom Dhulbahante subclans in Ceerigaabo that like to stay hidden and never participated in anything sine 1880 or demonstrated their number through any avenue other than Somaliland's local elections

Lol, Burco and Sheikh mountains. The only Dhillobadane living there were families resettled by the British, who fled with their lives from the Mad Mullah, including the old cunt Ina Dafles father and grandfather.

Are you going to claim Berbera as well because the British resettled your weak kin there?

The people who participated in the human zoos were diaspora living in Aden who saw it as a business opportunity to disclose their culture in exchange for money. They were not aware of the European inferiority complex disguised as a superiority complex. The irony is that it wasn't confined to Isaaq, both Dhillobadane, Wasakhgeli and Gudabiirsi were part of it.

Only Daroogo gave their women to the colonialists in exchange for something. For instance the district commissioner of Burco R.G Smith was married to a Dhillobadane woman, the D.C in Jigjiga had an Ogaden wife and we have the infamous story of Douglas Collins and Amina Boqor.


Ben Dover,

The first Dhulbahante to live in Ceerigaabo lived there as "inan la yaal" to no other than the HJ (Muusa Abokor) they claim have no presence in Ceerigaabo.

Habar jeclo in Sanaag and Ceerigaabo are so few that they are insignificant. It's a waste of time to debate with these midgets about Sanaag or Ceerigaabo. Dhulbahante, as Sharmarke rightly points out, occupy The heart of Ceerigaabo, all the way to Laascaanood in an unbroken chain. There are Dhulbahante towns surrounding Ceerigaabo like Dhaxamo, Masagan and Biyo Guduud which are between 10 and 30 km from Ceerigaabo.

If you travel south from the heart of Ceerigaabo where Dhulbahante live in large numbers, you will pass through Dhulbahante settlements and town, from Dibqarax, Ardaa, Fiqi Fuliye, Awrboogays, Xuddun all the way to Laascaanood.


Going eastwards from Ceerigaabo is Dhulbahante and Warsangeli deegaan, all the way to Boosaaso.

Markaasaad laangaab habarjeclo hunters and gatherers nacnacleynaysaan.

U forgot burco is also our city. It's 65% dhulbahante. We may have lost hargeisa and berbera but we ain't losing burco. Pls don't pay attention to these langgaabs

Astakhfurulaah, ilayn reerka waalidu waa ka run.

Masaakiintan yaa la hadla Ceerigaabo ninka sheegta muuse Ismaaciil Gadh-weyn ayaa hadh madaxa ka tooganaysa.
Waxyaabo aan kaftan laga dhigan baa jira.

Masaakiintan yaa la hadla Ceerigaabo ninka sheegta muuse Ismaaciil Gadh-weyn ayaa hadh madaxa ka tooganaysa.
Waxyaabo aan kaftan laga dhigan baa jira.

We are not arguing about ceerigaabo we have settles this ad came to the conclusion that it is a dhulo city. BUT WE WILL NEVER FORGET U STEALING HARGEYSA AND BERBERA AND ATTEMPTING TO STEAL BURCO BUT WE FOUGHT HARD FOR BURCO AND WE ARE 65% MAJORITY.

Xildiid

You dimwitted habarjeclo buffoon. I didn't want to say this but you asked for it.

The Daarood women you talked about were married women. Yet it is recorded that in 1948 Hargeisa had so many prostitutes that an epidemic of gonorrhoea and syphilis threatened the health of the British soldiers who frequented the iiddoor hoz. This led to swift action by the then governor of Hargeisa G T Fisher to incarcerate the hundreds of iiddoor hoz infesting the town in order to protect his soldiers. This is recorded history. All Somalis know the history of that infamous street in Hargeysa.

You talk of two married Daarood women, yet half of Hargeisa iiddoor women in 1948 were hoz, who posed a significant public health problem to warrant the intervention of the British governor.

You should stop talking about hoz given your infamous history.

sxb we have discussed this subject extensively in another thread and you keep repeating the same points like a broken record.

There was not election in 1961, there was a referendum held for the constitution of the Somali Republic. The people of Erigavo overwhelmingly voted in favour.

http://imgur.com/OeqbcMn

Erigavo is a shared city settled by all four clans of Sanaag along with minority clans.

accept it or cry your eyes out!

Your right, the HY do dominate the city with the assistance of Somaliland. However, this does not translate to them possessing a greater right to claim the city than the other clans.

What would the voter registration prove?