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[Sharmarke91]

This table shows the correct results. Those unaccounted quotes you drag out off your ass incorrect.

That is not going to fly qurjiile. Try again.

You are citing a random website Somalilandlaw.com.

On the other hand we have not one, not two, not four, but five academic sources, in multiple languages, all corroborating and confirming the correct result for Erigavo returning a no vote at 69%, higher than that of Burao. This is paints the clearest picture of demographics of Erigavo. Unlike the non-Isaaq cities returning a strong yes vote.


Also why are you not addressing the fact that you misread your own table?

What a failure

He actually said it returned a yes vote! The qurjiile fails to read his own sources. Again.



Try again qurjiile, your desperate struggles are very entertaining

Try again bitch. Your just posting the propaganda propagated my the Eydoor lover John Drysdale.

[Ben Dover]

Try again bitch. Your just posting the propaganda propagated my the Eydoor lover John Drysdale.

Try again qurjiile.


What a failure!



His source is:

Wait for it....



https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/may/S ... lusory.pdf

Lets disregard books and academic sources and use a random piece of propaganda produced specifically against Isaaq and Somaliland.



This is a new record you guys!

This guy must be a troll

Come on qurjiile, try again. You can do it.

[Sharmarke91]

Try again bitch. Your just posting the propaganda propagated my the Eydoor lover John Drysdale.

Try again qurjiile.


What a failure!



His source is:

Wait for it....



https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2006/may/S ... lusory.pdf

Lets disregard books and academic sources and use a random piece of propaganda produced specifically against Isaaq and Somaliland.



This is a new record you guys!

This guy must be a troll

Come on qurjiile, try again. You can do it.

Worth a try, since you couldn't accept the Eydoor source either.

These are the official results of the referendum:



If your still not satisfied produce a source which provides a in-depth analyses of the elections results Warya. Your John Drysdale 69% is not adequate. Also give me the links to all your snippets, I wanna check for myself.

[Sharmarke91]

The general survey map showing the permanent settlement of the Dhulbahante clans. As evident in the map Erigavo is well in the domain of Dhulbahante!

[Ben Dover]

If your still not satisfied produce a source which provides a in-depth analyses of the elections results Warya. Your John Drysdale 69% is not adequate. Also give me the links to all your snippets, I wanna check for myself.

You are yet to address the fact that you got the table completely wrong!

You actually said:

There was not election in 1961, there was a referendum held for the constitution of the Somali Republic. The people of Erigavo overwhelmingly voted in favour.

You fucked up.



Anyways happy to oblige.



- Crisis Management and the Politics of Reconciliation in Somalia

- Somaliland: The Anatomy of Secession

- From Tyranny to Anarchy: The Somali Experience

- Somaliland 1991: Report and Reference

- Somaliland: zwei Jahre nach der Unabhängigkeitserklärung

A consensus of academic sources uses the 69% figure. You lose again qurjile . The John Drysdale you are bitching about has actually been very fair to your people in his writing. The fact that you are insinuating that academics would lie about numbers, and falsify research to appease Saadaat nation speaks volumes of just how delusional you are.

Both numbers clearly show Erigavo being dominated by Isaaq. You are actually saying some academics sat round and published fraudulent statistics just to boost Isaaq numbers in one single town by 8.5%!

This is certainly a new level of delusion.

Try again quriji. Keep'em coming.

[Sharmarke91]

- Crisis Management and the Politics of Reconciliation in Somalia - The snippet gives it away ..according to John Drysdale.

- Somaliland: The Anatomy of Secession - Authored by John Drysdale.

- From Tyranny to Anarchy: The Somali Experience - Book authored by Hussein Tanzania, An Eydoor

- Somaliland 1991: Report and Reference - By John Drysdale

- Somaliland: zwei Jahre nach der Unabhängigkeitserklärung - Again the Snippet gives it away Drysdale (1992)

It's obvious that the 69% figure has been propagated by the notorious Eydoor lover John Drysdale,

and this bitch has the audacity to judge my NSUM source LOL.

A consensus of academic sources uses the 69% figure. You lose again qurjile . The John Drysdale you are bitching about has actually been very fair to your people in his writing. The fact that you are insinuating that academics would lie about numbers, and falsify research to appease Saadaat nation speaks volumes of just how delusional you are.

John Drysdale a man who lived and died in Hargeisa for the majority of his life, does not possess a bias? This is a man who was a loyal supporter of Somaliland and always gave a distorted and very partial view of the situation in Somalia.

As for Hussein Tanzania an Eydoor, there is not a doubt that he would result to falsifying and alter the referendum figures to further and strengthen the Somaliland cause for independence.

Sxb provide a source which is independent and free from John Drysdale's influence.

Both numbers clearly show Erigavo being dominated by Isaaq. You are actually saying some academics sat round and published fraudulent statistics just to boost Isaaq numbers in one single town by 8.5%!

They certainly would.

LMAO

How does a 60% vote of 'no' show Isaaq is majority in Erigavo? what did I say this stupid fuck will basically adapt any thing which mentions Erigavo just to support his claim on Erigavo the town.

You do know that this referendum result is for the present day region of Sanaag right?

and even if it's for Sanaag there is no way you can claim that the 60% no voters were all entirely Isaaq!

The UNFPA population estimates for Sanaag proofed that the Harti are majority in Sanaag.

[Ben Dover]

What the fuck are you talking about qurji?

This is beyond a parody now

You have 5 academic sources all backing up the 69% figure. All have done their due diligence and have published that figure. You have no case yaa qurji.

The fact that you are accusing a former diplomat, historian and publisher of fudging the numbers to add 8.5%, for no f-king reason since we won the referendum in Erigavo anyway, tells of your level of desperation.

You could not even read the tables properly and claimed the vote result was in favour of the constitution, and now you want to criticise academics doing their job?



The aura of despair in your posts is unmistakable

Try the fuck again qurjiile, you can do this.

[Ben Dover]

And stop jumping from one point to the next like a headless chicken.


Lets go back to your earlier point.

You actually brought a source to this discussion that you have described as:

The most extensive and comprehensive survey ever conducted in the former British Somaliland

This is the General survey of the Somaliland Protectorate 1944-1950.

Now remember, you brought this source up, not me.

You also brought up the issue of Naleye Ahmed living somewhere near Erigavo, and cited the survey as your source.

Your source says the home wells of Naleya Ahmed are as follows:



Do you see Erigavo mentioned?



I ask because the same source you cited says this about HY and HJ home wells:



And



Did you think I will let this fuckup of yours slip by?



As soon as I exposed you with that you jumped into a different point, and then attempted to jump further into a yet different one.

Not on my watch.

Your time is up qurji.

Your own source confirms Erigavo to be Isaaq town. You lose.

[Sharmarke91]

What the fuck are you talking about qurji?

This is beyond a parody now

You have 5 academic sources all backing up the 69% figure. All have done their due diligence and have published that figure. You have no case yaa qurji.

The fact that you are accusing a former diplomat, historian and publisher of fudging the numbers to add 8.5%, for no f-king reason since we won the referendum in Erigavo anyway, tells of your level of desperation.

You could not even read the tables properly and claimed the vote result was in favour of the constitution, and now you want to criticise academics doing their job?



The aura of despair in your posts is unmistakable

Try the fuck again qurjiile, you can do this.

This is simple my friend just produce a source independent of John Drysdale's influence which gives the same 69% figure for Erigavo.

Can you do that? it wouldn't be hard to do , if that figure was correct.

[Ben Dover]

This is simple my friend just produce a source independent of John Drysdale's influence which gives the same 69% figure for Erigavo.

Can you do that? it wouldn't be hard to do , if that figure was correct.

I dont need to.

I have provided 5 academic sources corroborating the same figure 69%. There is no question it is correct.

The fact that you are claiming an academic would go to this length of putting his career on the line by falsifying results of a Somali referendum, in only one small town, for no apparent reason since we won anyway, makes you look even more pathetic than your showing in the previous 23 pages, even more so than your lack of ability to read basic tables that you cite.

Give it up qurjiile.

[Sharmarke91]

The Naleya Ahmed Clans lived at Heman-Garen according to the survey. Which was a watering well and plains 5KM a way from the current location of Erigavo and this fool is still disputing that Dhulos didn't settle in Erigavo. Motherfucker if I lived 5km away from Erigavo what more do I need to stake my claim? we also Lived in Midhisho and Yufle, which are in the east and west of Erigavo respectively, cornering Erigavo from three directions - South, west and East.




Also it is evident from the map by the survey that Erigavo was well into grazing area of the Dhulbahante.

[Sharmarke91]

This is simple my friend just produce a source independent of John Drysdale's influence which gives the same 69% figure for Erigavo.

Can you do that? it wouldn't be hard to do , if that figure was correct.

I dont need to.

I have provided 5 academic sources corroborating the same figure 69%. There is no question it is correct.

The fact that you are claiming an academic would go to this length of putting his career on the line by falsifying results of a Somali referendum, in only one small town, for no apparent reason since we won anyway, makes you look even more pathetic than your showing in the previous 23 pages, even more so than your lack of ability to read basic tables that you cite.

Give it up qurjiile.

You don't need to mise ma haysid?

this bitch accuses me of lying.

Yep and all 5 sources are according to John Drysdale, therefore worthless. Even the authors of the two non Drysdale sources, keep those statistics away from themselves by saying: according John Drysdale...Erigavo 69% LOL.

Sorry I meant 4 because the Eydoor quote doesn't count.

The fact that you are claiming an academic would go to this length of putting his career on the line by falsifying results of a Somali referendum, in only one small town, for no apparent reason since we won anyway, makes you look even more pathetic than your showing in the previous 23 pages, even more so than your lack of ability to read basic tables that you cite.

Calaacal!

[Xildiiid]

Are you now claiming wells that your clanen were allowed to use during the dry season as towns inhabited by your clan? lol

You're losing the plot.

[Ben Dover]

This is so sad, I feel like I am beating up on a disabled person.

This is what you've said about this book that your brought to this discussion that it is:

The most extensive and comprehensive survey ever conducted in the former British Somaliland

You said it is the most extensive, and comprehensive survey done.

So where do you see Erigavo in the list of home wells that YOU brought to us?



The answer is no where. Period. I am not looking for excuses. I am not looking for places near Erigavo. I am not looking for guesses as to whether or not they may have moved there later. None of that. Either it lists Erigavo or not. In this case, your most comprehensive and extensive survey ever done confirms Erigavo was not a home well of Naleya Ahmed.

On the other hand, it lists Erigavo as a home well of Isaaq subclans:



And



These are the same clans you see surrounding Erigavo from every direction.




HY- Abdalla Hamud (every single direction north, east, west, south)
HJ - Basanbur and Idleh Beeda (south and west)

You have no case. This is just another source your brought that backfired on your ass.

Accept it.

Take the L.

Embrace the L.

[HamzzBowse]

From 8.22 Clearly states the first somali settlers of Ceerigabo were indeed Abdullah Hamud - (Muse Ismail)

Jidaale demographic is Mohamed Muse (Urursuge) of [Muse Ismail] & Baregeye of [Dhulbahante]. They Intermarry heavily. Further East you go all the way to Lasqoray and border you will meet Yonis Muse of [Muse Ismail] largely living with the Warsangeli's.