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Masaakiintan yaa la hadla Ceerigaabo ninka sheegta muuse Ismaaciil Gadh-weyn ayaa hadh madaxa ka tooganaysa.
Waxyaabo aan kaftan laga dhigan baa jira.

We are not arguing about ceerigaabo we have settles this ad came to the conclusion that it is a dhulo city. BUT WE WILL NEVER FORGET U STEALING HARGEYSA AND BERBERA AND ATTEMPTING TO STEAL BURCO BUT WE FOUGHT HARD FOR BURCO AND WE ARE 65% MAJORITY.

ceerigaabo as dhulo city

The dhulo that live in erigabo ain't even the same size as the small's sub clan of gadhweyn

sxb we have discussed this subject extensively in another thread and you keep repeating the same points like a broken record.

There was not election in 1961, there was a referendum held for the constitution of the Somali Republic. The people of Erigavo overwhelmingly voted in favour.

http://imgur.com/OeqbcMn

Erigavo is a shared city settled by all four clans of Sanaag along with minority clans.

accept it or cry your eyes out!

Your right, the HY do dominate the city with the assistance of Somaliland. However, this does not translate to them possessing a greater right to claim the city than the other clans.

What would the voter registration prove?

Again with the mysterious phantom Dhulbahante who live there but can not be seen

Thanks for bringing up the subject of the referendum of 1961. Granted it was a referendum and not an election, you are completely wrong in saying the people of Erigavo voted for the constitution, look at the table again, Erigavo -like any other Isaaq town- returned a NO vote:

No votes:
Hargeisa @ 72%
Berbera @ 69%
Burao @ 66%
Erigavo @ 60%

Yes votes:
Borama @ 96%
Las Anod @ 82%

Do you see a pattern?

All you have are baseless claims. If you live there to any capacity, how come Dhulbahanta never won anything ever in Sanaag (before the Somalialnd local elections )? All MPs ever elected in Erigavo were Isaaq. Sanaag representation was usually shared between Isaaq and Warsangeli, Dhulbahante were never included. Colonial surveyors found only Isaaq subclans living there. You were completely evacuated from the district (without the help of Somaliland as you claim) despite having been armed by Barre to dislodge us from the land. This shows that even if you live there, you are a minority. Like Xildiid was saying inan la yaals.

Only Daroogo gave their women to the colonialists in exchange for something. For instance the district commissioner of Burco R.G Smith was married to a Dhillobadane woman, the D.C in Jigjiga had an Ogaden wife and we have the infamous story of Douglas Collins and Amina Boqor.

Damn, the qurjiile did not even deny it

He actually excused them for being 'married women'. Yes, 'married' to gaals. Unless you are arguing these gentlemen embraced Islam!

This is actually very embarrassing. You gave your daughters to British officers to carry favour with them.

What were you saying about prostitutes again?

Might as well claim Hargeisa while you guys are it

Sharmarke91,

Actually the table you posted (from Somalilandlaw) is incorrect, Erigavo actually returned a NO vote of 69% (not 60%), put it this way, more people (as a % of population) voted no in Erigavo than Burao!



No votes:
Hargeisa @ 72%
Berbera @ 69%
Burao @ 66%
Erigavo @ 69%

Yes votes:
Borama @ 96%
Las Anod @ 82%

Checkmate sxb. Clearest picture of demographics of Somaliland towns

The habaryoonis gypsies of Ceerigaabo waxaa ku filan Bah Ogayslabe , a sub clan of the Warsangeli. They are the biggest cowards in Sanaag. It is only God who saved them from the Warsangeli hero Ina Afdhaal.

Sharmarke habaryoonis dominate nothing in Ceerigaabo. They only dominate their small settlement in the city, where they elect their own mayors and councillors. The majority of the city's population, the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli don't give a hoot about habaryoonis and their small ghetto in Ceerigaabo. Don't be misled by their posturing.

Muuse ismaaciil habaryoonis waa toban midgo oo madmadow, oo Sanaag ku go'doomay, wax ka fulaysanna Eebbe ma abuurin.

My apologies to midgaan, they already rejected habar yoonis.

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Weydamal


Gadhwayn waa nimanka Dofaar Ismaciil Sanaag ka saaray ee hadana idiin naxariistay idinkoo hayin ah, ileen Iidoor raxmad baa la yagu yaqaana eh, 1993 idiin ogalaaday inaad ku soo laabataan gobolka Sanaag.


SuldaanMaple,

They already claimed Hargeisa and that they lost the city. Check the previous pages.

U forgot burco is also our city. It's 65% dhulbahante. We may have lost hargeisa and berbera but we ain't losing burco. Pls don't pay attention to these langgaabs

Our degaan stretched from the Sheikh mountains to Eyl on the Indian Ocean coast.

BUT WE WILL NEVER FORGET U STEALING HARGEYSA AND BERBERA AND ATTEMPTING TO STEAL BURCO BUT WE FOUGHT HARD FOR BURCO AND WE ARE 65% MAJORITY.

U GUYS ARE ARGUING WITH INSANE ASYLUM PATIENTS

Since the only thing that satisfies you is the biased rubbish from your old colonial masters, what have you got to say about this map? which clearly indicates all four clans having equal presences in Sanaag?



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Throughout most of the 1990s, the Somaliland government left the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli in Sool, eastern Sanaag, and southern Togdheer to their own devices. The same was true for the Gadabuursi and Ciise in the Awdal region in the west, and Isaaq areas in Sanaag to the west and north of Ceerigaabo.

Between Somaliland & Puntland by Markus Hoehne

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http://dspace-roma3.caspur.it/bitstream ... Africa.pdf
(Page 32)

Other links for you to read up on;

https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419 ... 36990X.pdf

http://ocvp.org/docs/2015/Wave6/Erigavo ... 202015.pdf

http://somali-media.so/wp-content/uploa ... liland.pdf

sxb we have discussed this subject extensively in another thread and you keep repeating the same points like a broken record.

There was not election in 1961, there was a referendum held for the constitution of the Somali Republic. The people of Erigavo overwhelmingly voted in favour.

http://imgur.com/OeqbcMn

Erigavo is a shared city settled by all four clans of Sanaag along with minority clans.

accept it or cry your eyes out!

Your right, the HY do dominate the city with the assistance of Somaliland. However, this does not translate to them possessing a greater right to claim the city than the other clans.

What would the voter registration prove?

Again with the mysterious phantom Dhulbahante who live there but can not be seen

Thanks for bringing up the subject of the referendum of 1961. Granted it was a referendum and not an election, you are completely wrong in saying the people of Erigavo voted for the constitution, look at the table again, Erigavo -like any other Isaaq town- returned a NO vote:

No votes:
Hargeisa @ 72%
Berbera @ 69%
Burao @ 66%
Erigavo @ 60%

Yes votes:
Borama @ 96%
Las Anod @ 82%

Do you see a pattern?

All you have are baseless claims. If you live there to any capacity, how come Dhulbahanta never won anything ever in Sanaag (before the Somalialnd local elections )? All MPs ever elected in Erigavo were Isaaq. Sanaag representation was usually shared between Isaaq and Warsangeli, Dhulbahante were never included. Colonial surveyors found only Isaaq subclans living there. You were completely evacuated from the district (without the help of Somaliland as you claim) despite having been armed by Barre to dislodge us from the land. This shows that even if you live there, you are a minority. Like Xildiid was saying inan la yaals.

Cwerigaabo is 87% Harti. And t sad that one sub sub clan of darood is taking care of a whole tribe.hahaha. Harri have more land than Isaac true fact

Throughout most of the 1990s, the Somaliland government left the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli in Sool, eastern Sanaag, and southern Togdheer to their own devices. The same was true for the Gadabuursi and Ciise in the Awdal region in the west, and Isaaq areas in Sanaag to the west and north of Ceerigaabo.

Between Somaliland & Puntland by Markus Hoehne

Did you read the paper you've quoted me?

You just dug your own grave

In your fervour to find a source, any source, that you can use you've actually conceded my point. This guy is super biased for you lot and against Isaaq, yet he declares Ceerigaabo an Isaaq settlement:

- "Dhulbahante lands include much of the land lost to other clans"
"Long in the hands of HJ and HY"
"this imagined territory"









He is really describing you lot. Living and consuming tales of imaginary territory and Darwish hubris. Unconcerned with realities on the ground.

This is your source sxb. Now give it up.

There's never been a census of Somali clans. To say iiddor is 2/3rd of the population of Northern Somalia is pure fiction. I don't think they even reach 30 % of the population.

Throughout most of the 1990s, the Somaliland government left the Dhulbahante and Warsangeli in Sool, eastern Sanaag, and southern Togdheer to their own devices. The same was true for the Gadabuursi and Ciise in the Awdal region in the west, and Isaaq areas in Sanaag to the west and north of Ceerigaabo.

Between Somaliland & Puntland by Markus Hoehne

Did you read the paper you've quoted me?

You just dug your own grave

In your fervour to find a source, any source, that you can use you've actually conceded my point. This guy is super biased for you lot and against Isaaq, yet he declares Ceerigaabo an Isaaq settlement:

- "Dhulbahante lands include much of the land lost to other clans"
"Long in the hands of HJ and HY"
"this imagined territory"









He is really describing you lot. Living and consuming tales of imaginary territory and Darwish hubris. Unconcerned with realities on the ground.

This is your source sxb. Now give it up.

LOL what the fuck are you reading man?

The dude is saying the Isaaqs settle in the north and west of Erigavo.

The Dhulos settling in the South and East.

sxb, you are an ciyaal looking for an argument and something to keep you occupied.

Whether you like it or not the Dhulbahante do settle in Erigavo in Huge numbers.

Asalamu calaykum waraxmatulahi wabarakatu dhamaan akhristaya sharafte leh waad salamantihiin. Hadaan usoo gudbo maqaalkaygan waxaan waxka orandoonaa mandaqada Khaatumo State of Somalia gaar ahaan gobalka Sanaag ee magaalo madaxdiisu tahay ceerigaabo oo katirsan gobalada khaatumo ee taariikhiga ah.

Gobalka sanaag waxa wada dega Afar beelood oo somaliyeed kuwoo ka kala degan deegmooyin kala duwan, Waxa jirtay waayahan dambe in dad caadifadaysan amase quudhi la xaqiiqda kajirta gobalka sanaag ay muran geliyaan degmooyinka waaweyn ay beesha Dhulbahante ka degto gobalka sanaag kuwaas oo ah kuwo taariikhi ah weliba ilaa hada ay deganyihiin beesha Dhulbahante.

Degmooyina waaweyn ay beesha Dhulbahante ka degto gobalka Sanaag ayaa kala ah magaalada Ceerigaabo , xaruntii labaad darawiishta Jiidali, Fiqifuliye, Biyo Guduud, Damale xagare oo labo magaalo ah mid wersengeli yo mid Dhublahante, Ardaa, Dibqarax, Xamaas, magaaloyinkaas ayn soo xusnay oo dhamaan ku hareersan magala madaxda Ceerigaabo aya waxa si khaas ah u dega beesha SSC oo cidna ladegin waxaase intaas kabadan kaamamka yo deegamada daaaqsinka ah ee gala buurta calmadow sida beeraha xamaas oo bada agteeda ah waxaase naflacaarinimo ah in dad waaweyn oo kasoo jeeda gobolka sanaag waxna ka dega inay isku maaweeliyaan Khaatumo Sanaag waxba kama degto.

Sidaa dhowr jeer oo hore ku arkay beesha Iidoor oo waxka degta gobolka sanaag walow ay badigood degenyihiin buuraha waaweyn ee gobalka sida buurta Surad yo Calmadow oo gala ilaa bosaaso oo la isku dhaho Buuraha Golis yo beesha wersengeli oo kadegta degmooyin kamid ah gobalka sanaag gaar ahaan dhinaca beriga boosaaso xiga aya waxa midba midka kale dafiraad ka muujiynayay Degenaanshaha beesha dhulbahante ay ka degantahay gobalka sanaag taas oo ah mid xaqiiqda ka fog waaqicana aan kajerin balse qofkii sanaag taga uu arki karo cida majority ku ah gobalka sida magaalada Ceerigaabo oo badi ilaa badhtamaha ila suuqa Hoose ee magaalada ay ubadanyihiin dadka reer khaatuumo yoo weliba hareeraha magaalada oo dhan sida Dhaxamo ilaa jiidali ilaa owrbagays ku kala taxan ay deganyihiin shacabka reer Khaatumo.

Gebo gebadii yo maqaalkaygan waxaa kula talin lahaa dhamaan dadka waaqici kadhacsan amase xaqiiqda iska indhatiraya inay kawaantoobaan riyada hawada ah ay dhisayaan ciidoodana waxka deganadaan. Khaatumona ilaahba dal yo dad duunyoba kumaynstay ee allow dhowr.

Souce: http://allssc.com/2012/05/maqaal-degmoo ... ka-sanaag/