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[Ben Dover]

Do you actually read what you type?

You are arguing that a map that has:

- No mention of regions
- Clearly puts Erigavo in the domain of Isaaq

Somehow makes the claim that your qurjiile live in Erigavo! All the while you ignore other maps (four of them in total!) that are very explicit in stating Erigavo is an Isaaq deegaan.

You've been had.

Is that all you have to support your argument? a few maps drawn by some biased sources.

You have one map (produced by the same 3rd party sources) and the results of Somaliland local election , ceebtaada astur sxb.

Originally Sanaag was divided into 3 districts, 2 of which are dominated by Isaaq and one by Warsangali, you have nothing but three tuulos

The Dhulbahante MP's name was Mohamed Ahmed Abdulle (Sakhraan).

Where is your source? Stop lying sxb.

[Sharmarke91]

Do you actually read what you type?

You are arguing that a map that has:

- No mention of regions
- Clearly puts Erigavo in the domain of Isaaq

Somehow makes the claim that your qurjiile live in Erigavo! All the while you ignore other maps (four of them in total!) that are very explicit in stating Erigavo is an Isaaq deegaan.

You've been had.

Is that all you have to support your argument? a few maps drawn by some biased sources.

You have one map (produced by the same 3rd party sources) and the results of Somaliland local election , ceebtaada astur sxb.

Originally Sanaag was divided into 3 districts, 2 of which are dominated by Isaaq and one by Warsangali, you have nothing but three tuulos

The Dhulbahante MP's name was Mohamed Ahmed Abdulle (Sakhraan).

Where is your source? Stop lying sxb.

Iska hadlo iska hadal.


The first map is from I M Lewis's books. It indicates the clan stronghold. You got to be stupid to expect a map which indicates every single degaan of each clan. Jiidali which is one of the oldest settlements of the Dhulbahante is not within the Dhulos territory on the map.

The second map is also a rough estimate of clan settlements just look how the Harti border is so close to Erigavo.

The third map shows the disputed land between Somaliland & Puntland. Why the fuck do I care about that, I am reer Khaatumo.

The fourth map is entirely in accurate since when did the Warsengali live in Nugaal and Xudun.

My map in comparison was made by the British Somaliland protectorate administration during the most extensive survey ever conducted in Somaliland. It clearly indicates were every clan's settlement was.

The region of Sanaag is divided into 5 districts which are BADHAN, LAS QORAY, DHAHAR, ERIGAVO & EL AFWEYN.

Sxb lets end this I got you. I've proved my claim!


ERIGAVO IS A SHARED CITY!

But you have not yet answered;

- The villages of HJ & HY in Sanaag?
- The names of the Isaaq MPs from Erigavo in 64 & 69?

[PanSomaliNationalist]

Somalia:the only place where people with the same ethnic group will fight over cities

PS. Ceerigabo is warsengeli property

[X.Playa]

The region of Sanaag is divided into 5 districts which are BADHAN, LAS QORAY, DHAHAR, ERIGAVO & EL AFWEYN.

Is this kid ill informed or desperate? Sanaag province was created in 1967 with three district one Daarood two Isaaq. Give it up kid your people are a minority in sanaag. Not even Waqooyi Galbeed with Hargaysa as the provincial capital had 5 districts lol

[Sharmarke91]

The region of Sanaag is divided into 5 districts which are BADHAN, LAS QORAY, DHAHAR, ERIGAVO & EL AFWEYN.

Is this kid ill informed or desperate? Sanaag province was created in 1967 with three district one Daarood two Isaaq. Give it up kid your people are a minority in sanaag. Not even Waqooyi Galbeed with Hargaysa as the provincial capital had 5 districts lol

Warya apostate

The Sanaag region was divided into 5 districts by the Siad Barre government.

Waqooyi Galbeed was divided into three districts (Hargeisa, Gabiley, & Berbera), because its a tiny territory. Even Sool had more districts ( Las Anod, Hudun, Taleh & Aynaba).

[Sharmarke91]

Somalia:the only place where people with the same ethnic group will fight over cities

PS. Ceerigabo is warsengeli property

I don't have a problem with sharing a city with my fellow Somali people,

However, this Ben Dover kid is obsessing over the matter, am just setting him straight.



Ps. If Erigavo was Warsengali it would make me a happy man. The Warsengali are my family.

[Xildiiid]

Before the independence of SL in 1960 there was only one Dhulbahante living there as "inan la yaal".

All the references posted by Ben Dover clearly states Ceerigaabo as an Isaaq city with Isaaq surrounding it. Ceerigaabo opposed the draft of the illegal 1961 referendum in line with the position of the rest of the Isaaq cities, unlike the cities of the USP (Borama, Las Anod) that voted yes.

Conflating the ownership of Ceerigaabo with the minimal presence of Darood in Sanaag as an excuse to claim our city, like the guy above is doing, is disingenuous. Isaaq built Ceerigaabo just like Isaaq built Hargeisa.

Your clansmen know that they're residing there as guests and if they step out of line again they'll pack their bags and leave. It's that simple.

[Ben Dover]

Kan imika ma ka run baa mise wuu isyeelyeeliya? You can not be this thick sxb

You brought a map that has NO REGIONS (aar waalana qurjiiluhu) and you want us to take your word that it proves your people (all 20,000 of them) settle in Sanaag!

Shit makes no sense because:

- THE MAP HAS NO REGIONS .
- The 20,000 figure could be anywhere between Sool and Sanaag. So maybe 15,000 in northern Sool and 5000 divided between your 3 tuulos.
- You actually divided the Musa Abokor number (40,000), yet want to use the whole of your 20,000 figure. It wont fly sxb.
- The map itself says 'rough estimates' (!!!!).

On the other hand we have consensus of 3rd party observers that Erigavo is an Isaaq city. Unlike you I do not need to cling to an ambiguous ROAD CONSTRUCTION map or unreliable local election numbers. I have many maps and sources to choose from:

Boom!


Boom!


Boom!


Boom!




Why did they not make a note here that you are of Erigavo like they did the other clans?



- Where is the source for your fake Dhulo MP?
- How come you did failed to mention Erigavo returned a higher no vote than Burao, and instead lied and said the vote was a resounding yes?

Isaaq dominate two of the three districts in Sanaag, Warsangali at least have their own district, you have nothing. Inan layaal baad awalba aheyd. When the shit hit the fan in Sanaag you went running all the way to Sool.

Dhiidhiibso abti.

[Sharmarke91]

What a f-king retard!

You brought a map that has NO REGIONS (aar waalana qurjiiluhu) and you want us to take your word that it proves your people (all 20,000 of them) settle in Sanaag!

Bitch are you that simple that you can't figure that those 20,000 people are within the Erigavo district.

Why do you think they split the population, if it was not to show that 20,000 & 80,000 Dhulos settled in Erigavo & Las Anod districts respectively?

What a f-king moron!

SEE THE MAPS BELOW & CHECK FOR YOURSELF.

or do you want me to drawn in the sool/sanaag border myself, because your too stupid to figure it out.

You actually divided the Musa Abokor number (40,000), yet want to use the whole of your 20,000 figure. It wont fly sxb.

Nigga look at both maps above, see for yourself those Habar Habusheed live in Saaxil, Toghdheer, & Sanaag. Who fuck else settles in that territory?

I have many maps and sources to choose from:

What sources??? please tell me.
These maps mean absolutely nothing! I can get hundreds of maps from google that support my point.


http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/t ... ntland.jpg

Why did they not make a note here that you are of Erigavo like they did the other clans?

Why did they make a note here that we live Erigavo like the other clans? stupid f-king Dabacayuun!

- Where is the source for your fake Dhulo MP?

Where are the names of the Isaaq MPs from 64 & 69?

Isaaq dominate two of the three districts in Sanaag, Warsangali at least have their own district, you have nothing. Inan layaal baad awalba aheyd. When the shit hit the fan in Sanaag you went running all the way to Sool.

How many times do I have to repeat there were 5 districts in Sanaag before it gets into your thick head. 3 are solely warsengali, 1 is shared mainly by HY & Dhulos, and 1 is shared by HY & HJ.

Dhaadhanyaho, your f-king Habar Jeclo, Erigavo has nothing to do with you stop f-king obsession over it!!

[Ben Dover]

The qurjiile simpleton is back

You can not use a map with no regions to justify a claim that a clan settles a region, it is that simple. Your own map shows Erigavo to be HY territory!

As for your assertion that:

Why do you think they split the population, if it was not to show that 20,000 & 80,000 Dhulos settled in Erigavo & Las Anod districts respectively?

You are wrong again.

The Dhulbahante are split into two groups, reer Nugaaleed (20,000) and reer Oodeed (80,000):


The 20,000 figure you are clinging so hard to represents the reer Nugaaleed dhulos.

Also that table you attached has no place in this discussion. It was included in a UN Refugee Agency report. I thought this discussion was based on scholarly output. You are clearly desperate. My table is based on 1st hand research by premier anthropologists. If you want to go down the random reports and maps (like the one you attached) then you are just admitting no serious scholars accept you to be from the district

First you said:

There was 2 MP's from Erigavo in 1969. The other was Dhulos, I don't know his name but I will find out.

Then you said:

and yes there was Dhulos MP in 1969, I will find out his name.

Then when pressed you spurted:

Whats the name of the Isaaq MP elected from Erigavo in 1969?

Trying to dodge the point, now that you were in a pickle, caught lying for the umpteenth time in this one thread

And finally we have a name, a random name with no proof:

The Dhulbahante MP's name was Mohamed Ahmed Abdulle (Sakhraan).

We are still waiting for the proof sxb. You just lied with a straight face, not on my watch. I know where you got that piece of propaganda from, it was this very forum that another qurjiile claimed to have representation in Erigavo and they too failed to substantiate their lie.

As for the Isaaq MP from 1969 I will post all the details along with all evidence required once you answer my question, it is only fair seeing I asked you first. Dont worry about this.

In your next post provide evidence to your claim that there was ever a Dhulo MP in 1969, you either do that or just like the Erigavo constitution results lie, man up and accept that you lied, again.

Once you do I will give you all the information you need about the Isaaq MP.

[Sharmarke91]

Subxaanka yaa caadim! qofkan dhimaan see wax loo fahansiyaa.

Ok, so your intellectually disabled. I'll make it easy for you.

Can you see the longitude & Latitude lines on the map?

The Erigavo/Las Anod border is a straight line, literally 15 kilometres south of Latitude 9.5.

Therefore, you don't need the actual borders to be drawn into the map. You can use the geographic coordinates to locate the border yourself.

Your own map shows Erigavo to be HY territory!

Have I not explained the reason why this is bitch?! why do you repeat the same shit over and over again.

The Dhulbahante are split into two groups, reer Nugaaleed (20,000) and reer Oodeed (80,000):
The 20,000 figure you are clinging so hard to represents the reer Nugaaleed dhulos.

LMAO how pathetic? this has to be the 5th excuse.
Why is it so hard for you to accept what your British masters have themselves produced?

You know nowt about Dhulbahante.

Reer Caymeed/Oodeed - These are the clans that settle in the Buuhoodle & Aynaba general area; they include the Ahmed Garaad, Hayaag, Khalid, Yahye, Mohamed Muse clans.

Reer Hawd - The population that settles in the south west of Las Anod district, Buuhoodle district and the Somali state of Ethiopia; they are principally the Reer Caymeed clans, Bah'rarsame, Mohamud Ugaas and Qayaad.

Reer Nugaaled - The population that settle between Las Anod & Erigavo. They include the entire Mohamed Garaad clan which alone accounts for at least 40% of Dhulos, the Hassan Ugaas, Hamud Ugaas, Bah'rarsame, Hinjiile etc.

And you say the reer Nugaaleed were 20,000 LOL, what a blunder! Sxb Reer Nugaleed & Reer Hawd are two equal segments.

Your undisguisedly desperate and reaching now.

Your table just describes the Dhulbahante grazing areas. It does NOT mention the districts we settle. If we go by your table then Dhulbahante don't settle in Las Anod district either.

Also that table you attached has no place in this discussion. It was included in a UN Refugee Agency report. I thought this discussion was based on scholarly output. You are clearly desperate. My table is based on 1st hand research by premier anthropologists. If you want to go down the random reports and maps (like the one you attached) then you are just admitting no serious scholars accept you to be from the district

Scholars posses more knowledge on Somalia do they? because i've read about 20 books on Somalia and every single one of them hard errors. Yet, the people that have been on the ground for the last 26 years, feeding the Somali people and dishing out billions of dollars on Somalia, have no clue about Somalis and their settlements.

LMAO Walahay I genuinely laughed. You literally run out of excuses. Just put your hands up sxb. Wallahi I won't make a big deal of it. We'll close the matter and put it to bed.

Mohamed Ahmed Abdulle (Sakhraan) was elected MP in Erigavo in 1969. Am still in pursuit of viable sources, so to put a stop on your obsession over this matter for your own sanity.

If you have information on the Isaaq MP's then why not post it? wtf
You ain't got shit, because you would of posted it a few pages back!

[Ben Dover]

Qurjiile trying to dodge the question again.


We are still waiting for the false Dhulo Erigavo MP evidence.

Where is your proof of the Dhulos MP. I am still waiting. Notice how the qurjiile completely ignores the fact that he was caught out lying saying Erigavo returned a yes vote when it returned 69% no! Qurjiile literally flipped the figure, nigga did not even apologies. Now he was caught claiming Erigavo had an MP (a claim he saw made on this forum) and is unable to present any proof of his claim

I will post the Isaaq MP information as soon as you answer my question and present your proof. I have asked you first so answer me before posing questions.

As for your essay, its much simpler than that. Qurjiile are divided into two sections Reer Nugaaleed and reer Odeed or Aymeed:



This is confirmed by the map the qurjiile cited, they are divided into two sections too. Ergo reer Nugaaleed are the 20,000 figure whilst the reer Oodeed are the rest of 80,000 figure.

Mohamed Ahmed Abdulle (Sakhraan) was elected MP in Erigavo in 1969. Am still in pursuit of viable sources, so to put a stop on your obsession over this matter for your own sanity.

Take back your claim or post proof. One or the other sxb.

Anyways, answer my question and provide proof or say you made the Dhulo MP story up.I am happy to answer your question after you answer mine. If you do not have proof and admit you made it up I will post the Isaaq MP of 1969 straight away, but we must get an answer from you first before we proceed.


See? That is confidence my qurjiile boy. I do not need to make shit up

(Lets see what excuse he comes up with this time)

[DhuloPride]

There are 5 clans that share Ceerigabo district and town:

1) Dhulbahante
2) Warsangeli
3) HJ
4) HY
5) MJ

The last SNM confrontation with us was in Damala Xagare, where over 250 HY were slain in a single battle by Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. After that, they had to get their great Sultan from the West to come to our towns and intermediate between us. They were then expelled from Masagan in a single night and had all their farms taken from them by a sub clan of Naaleye Axmed. The Somali flag fly's high on the Harti side of Ceerigabo. These idoors are completely confused and have been fed lies by their parents. Lol! They should be kissing our feet that we let them come down from their mountains where they traditionally live.

[X.Playa]

There are 5 clans that share Ceerigabo district and town:

1) Dhulbahante
2) Warsangeli
3) HJ
4) HY
5) MJ

The last SNM confrontation with us was in Damala Xagare, where over 250 HY were slain in a single battle by Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. After that, they had to get their great Sultan from the West to come to our towns and intermediate between us. They were then expelled from Masagan in a single night and had all their farms taken from them by a sub clan of Naaleye Axmed. The Somali flag fly's high on the Harti side of Ceerigabo. These idoors are completely confused and have been fed lies by their parents. Lol! They should be kissing our feet that we let them come down from their mountains where they traditionally live.

The fact you admit h.y chased you away from ceerigaabo capturing Fiqifuliye and attacking both Damallaxagare and as far as Hadaaftimo is enough as to who held the power there.

And stop lying the Dhulbahante fled leaving the Warsangali and Gahayle to suffer alone. The Dhulbahante from the beginning fled south in a marathon record to laas caanood.

[DhuloPride]

There are 5 clans that share Ceerigabo district and town:

1) Dhulbahante
2) Warsangeli
3) HJ
4) HY
5) MJ

The last SNM confrontation with us was in Damala Xagare, where over 250 HY were slain in a single battle by Dhulbahante and Warsangeli. After that, they had to get their great Sultan from the West to come to our towns and intermediate between us. They were then expelled from Masagan in a single night and had all their farms taken from them by a sub clan of Naaleye Axmed. The Somali flag fly's high on the Harti side of Ceerigabo. These idoors are completely confused and have been fed lies by their parents. Lol! They should be kissing our feet that we let them come down from their mountains where they traditionally live.

The fact you admit h.y chased you away from ceerigaabo capturing Fiqifuliye and attacking both Damallaxagare and as far as Hadaaftimo is enough as to who held the power there.

And stop lying the Dhulbahante fled leaving the Warsangali and Gahayle to suffer alone. The Dhulbahante from the beginning fled south in a marathon record to laas caanood.

SNM could not even take Jidali from us, many hundreds of HY died trying to capture it 7 or 8 times. Same thing with Ceerigabo. We were the ones who captured their capital Bohol and held it for nearly 3 years. Idoor, the only person who fled were your people who went hiding in the Dallo mountains. Come to Ceerigabo, and you can see if we fled or not. The Somali flag flys high.