Djibouti Military Strength -- Strongest in Somali Horn

[Jabuutawi]

Djibouti's government, meanwhile, is keen to develop military cooperation with China.

"China is already well prepared to support Djibouti, to increase its military capabilities and guarantee its security," Chinese Defence Minister Chang Wanquan said during a visit to Djibouti in 2014, in comments carried on the website of Djibouti's embassy in Beijing.

More info click this link:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china ... SKCN0WP300

Moreover, Djibouti has purchased 42 T-72 tanks.

[AwRastaale]

If the Americans abandon Djibouti, I believe it will be in a very dangerous position. If the West leaves or they see no need to defend Djibouti because it betrayed them too, it will be easy prey for Ethiopia.

China values relations with Ethiopia more than Djibouti.

China shares many things with Ethiopia including being an ancient giant...population and historical wise.

China feels it lost both Taiwan and Hong Kong (now recovered) and Ethiopia feels it lost both Eritrea and Djibouti to Europeans.

China sees no reason to contradict itself. If Ethiopia claims Djibouti as its own Hong Kong-------China understands.

So in that sense, I can see the day China swallows up Taiwan and Hong Kong while Ethiopia takes lessons from China and China assists her...after all a Djibouti port under giant Ethiopia means more security for China and forever friendship. At the moment Djibouti is like the prostitute that anyone can hire for the night------all about the money.

As for the Tanks, they are so old and Djibouti will not use tanks if it came to war due to both its terrain and small population.

Tanks will be useless in that high country and if Eritreans attack they can overran Djibouti within 48 hours if not quicker that is without France or US interfering.

Djibouti paying arms after arms is the same as Saddam and other Arabs who collected relics but when it came to war--------fled or easily defeated because they were more fascinated with arms than know its uses and needs.

So that's my view.

[original dervish]

As long as maritime traffic continues to use the bab el mandeb straits Djibouti will continue to host western bases.This will preclude Ethiopia from any wishful thinking.

Ethiopia has more chance of annexing a narrow corridor of land leading to Berbera.
I believe in the coming decade a lot of secessionists will accept such a proposal, as the lesser of two evils, rather than come under Hawiye domination.

[Jabuutawi]

Who is to say Ethiopia, in its current form, will be around another 5 years? Oromos are up in arms due to political marginalization. It is a watershed moment for the Oromos who have in the last few months , unbeknownst to the rest of the world, rebelled against the minority-run regime. TPLF is standing on a crumbled house of cards; it will take not much effort to bring this regime down. Now, only if there was a cohesive Oromo front irrespective of religious and clan differences.

Secondly, we live in times of no one country can unilaterally invade another country with no repercussion from the international community. I cannot foresee Ethiopia, or Eritrea for that matter, invasion and takeover of Djibouti plausible. Not now, not ever.

Thirdly, I have yet to read an authenticated letter, conversation between Abyssinia and France discussions about who owns Djibouti. If you have a such a document, do share with us. Abyssinia's de jure control ended just outskirts of Nazaret, no where near Dira Dhabe, Shinile Zone or Djibouti.

[Siciid85]

As long as maritime traffic continues to use the bab el mandeb straits Djibouti will continue to host western bases.This will preclude Ethiopia from any wishful thinking.

Ethiopia has more chance of annexing a narrow corridor of land leading to Berbera.
I believe in the coming decade a lot of secessionists will accept such a proposal, as the lesser of two evils, rather than come under Hawiye domination.

So you pretty much have no hope for Darood leadership in Somalia in The coming decade as evidenced by your statement above? Interesting

[Siciid85]

Djb military has almost zero combat experience. Until they fight in real war, there is no reason to say they're the best.

I remember how the entire Djb was panicking after the Eritreans applied just tiny bit of pressure, then I knew Djb wasn't ready for real war.

[AwRastaale]

OD,

Ethiopia will claim the entire Horn but until now it has never made historical claims to Berbera but I am aware they religiously believe Djibouti is an Ethiopian territory that Menelik II leased to France for 99 years.

Remember during the referendum vote for independence, Ethiopia manipulate the vote to ensure they did not vote for unity with Somali Republic---using the Afar. The French agreed with the Ethiopians that it was both of their interest to ensure Djibouti stood solo and not became part of Somali Republic.

They always argue that is why the railway was taken there and so forth.

As for SL and Mogadishu, well Hawiye is always better than becoming another Ogaden region for the Habasha to explore and introduce few dhaanto songs. That's no brainer.

Jabuutawi,

Ethiopia will not seek military annexation of Djibouti but very basic economic integration, then monetary integration, then political integration. This is already on the Ethiopian master plan. This motion is already in action.

By 2050, Djibouti should be an extension of Shinile zone.

DJIBOUTI/ETHIOPIA - Africa Intelligence

http://www.africaintelligence.com/.../i ... ection,108...

Jul 4, 2014 - The plan for economic integration devised by Djibouti and neighbouring Ethiopia could ultimately lead to a kind of political unification between ...

Some views from Ethiopians on this issue.

By Yohannes Anberbir
Economic integration is defined by Investopedia - an authoritative financial dictionary - as an economic arrangement between different regions marked by the reduction or elimination of trade barriers and the coordination of monetary and fiscal policies.

The aim of economic integration is to reduce costs for both consumers and producers, as well as to increase trade between the countries taking part in the agreement. This sentiment was reiterated by policymakers from Ethiopia and their counterparts from their eastern neighbor - Djibouti. Now, it seems that the two countries are taking their first steps towards social and economic integration which could eventually be followed by political integration, reports Yohannes Anberbir from Djibouti.

Many Ethiopians do not see this as an integration but rather as a reunification.

Djibouti Reunion with Ethiopia: Global Impact

The long-simmering discussions between Djiboutian and Ethiopian leaders about creating a political union have now reached critical mass1. The outcome would have profound impact on the regional balance and the Suez-Red Sea sea lines of communication (SLOC). But, despite the fact that this might be the most opportune time for the two countries to reunite (and to restore Ethiopia's historical rôle as a Red Sea power), there will still be a major regional panic by some leaders who will be disenfranchised by the move. Nonetheless, the President of Djibouti, Ismail Omar Guelleh (widely referred to as IOG), has taken the lead in bringing the matter into public debate, while Ethiopian officials have cautiously been attempting to determine whether IOG's statements reflect Djiboutian public opinion.

The parallel to the UK-Hong Kong-China situation is apposite. Emperor Menelik II of Ethiopia leased Djibouti to France for 99 years, from around 1894, after the French had (in 1885) established a presence among the Issa and Afar peoples and built a port city on land acquired from Issa notables. But Djibouti's fortunes have always been linked to Ethiopia, and the city-state serves as an entrepôt for Ethiopian trade. Ethiopia has, in recent years, leased farmland to Djibouti to assist Djiboutian food supply.

https://www.questia.com/magazine/1P3-36 ... bal-impact

Ethiopian policy makers have one golden rule; keep the lid on everything and afford anything that could attract publicity and any eyes both regional and international. They play dead like the possum.

[original dervish]

Economic integration is in the interests of Djibouti, however, it's highly unlikely the Djiboutienne population will accept to come under minority ruling Tigreans,

[AwRastaale]

Ethiopia is courting a young girl that it believes it once loved her. Ethiopia believes it is time to rekindle that love once again now that the disturbers have aged and did her as much as they can but in Ethiopian eyes she is still a virgin.

So how do you court a girl?

First you establish communication-----naayahe bal waran. CHECK

Then you go on a small date (port/railway). CHECK

Then you shower her with praises. CHECK

Then you shower her with gifts and incentives. Some CHECK (farmland for IOG and Khadra in Oromia region), but the big ones UNDER WAY (free water)

Posted on Friday, 04 July 2014 10:10

Ethiopia to give Djibouti underground water for free


Ethiopian legislators have ratified an agreement that will see neighbouring Djibouti drawing underground water from the country's territory free of charge.
The agreement follows a request in January last year by the Ethiopian government for parliamentary approval for the Shinile Zone of Bekuli Rift Valley area – about 100 km from the border with Djibouti.

- http://www.theafricareport.com/East-Hor ... -free.html

Funny thing about this gift is it's coming from one Issa yard to another Issa yard.

After incentives then you propose to her. CHECK--------economic integration UNDERWAY.

After that it's just matter of taking her home and getting her popping (free port) and control of the Redsea...to make things more legit Ethiopian Shipping Line already has all its ships docked in Djibouti (all nine vessels). All it needs next is naval force.

Simple dots that need simple addition to see the future picture.

[original dervish]

Economic integration yes.....never political.

[zumaale]

Djb military has almost zero combat experience. Until they fight in real war, there is no reason to say they're the best.

I remember how the entire Djb was panicking after the Eritreans applied just tiny bit of pressure, then I knew Djb wasn't ready for real war.

Siciid

If it is a war for survival even the meekest of folk became quickly battle hardened and the Ciise are anything but meek. There is a reason why they had the most fierce reputation among Somalis in the 19th century and are the only Somali clan that continues to push its boundaries against non Somali neighbours such as the Afar and Oromo. Even during the early 90's, they were fighting on several fronts. The IGLF was fighting the Oromos around the Dire Dawa area, the Djiboutian army was in the middle of containing an Afar rebellion in the northern part of the country hence why they were not prioritising the United Somali Front in Awdal. Furthermore, most Somali militias today have armoured vehicles and tanks (handful) from the kacaan era that are on their last legs whilst the Ciise are restocking with relatively newer armoured vehicles and tanks.

In regard to the Ras Doumeira conflict, come on bro, Eritrea is a military state and has an army that runs into the hundreds of thousands. Djibouti at that time did not even have a 10,000 standing army and did well considering how mismatched the two countries are. The Eritreans had more than triple the casualty rate of the Djiboutians. Their troops also had low morale and a lot of them saw surrender as a means to escape from the despotic regime of Afewerki. In contrast to the false facts that have been peddled on Snet, both parties have demilitarised the contested land and the Qataris are mediating between the two countries; they have not lost any land as a result of the conflict. That war was a blessing in disguise for the Ciise, they now realise how important it is to strengthen their army and can easily recruit from the hundreds of thousands of young men idle in K5.

[Siciid85]

Djb military has almost zero combat experience. Until they fight in real war, there is no reason to say they're the best.

I remember how the entire Djb was panicking after the Eritreans applied just tiny bit of pressure, then I knew Djb wasn't ready for real war.

Siciid

If it is a war for survival even the meekest of folk became quickly battle hardened and the Ciise are anything but meek. There is a reason why they had the most fierce reputation among Somalis in the 19th century and are the only Somali clan that continues to push its boundaries against non Somali neighbours such as the Afar and Oromo. Even during the early 90's, they were fighting on several fronts. The IGLF was fighting the Oromos around the Dire Dawa area, the Djiboutian army was in the middle of containing an Afar rebellion in the northern part of the country hence why they were not prioritising the United Somali Front in Awdal. Furthermore, most Somali militias today have armoured vehicles and tanks (handful) from the kacaan era that are on their last legs whilst the Ciise are restocking with relatively newer armoured vehicles and tanks.

In regard to the Ras Doumeira conflict, come on bro, Eritrea is a military state and has an army that runs into the hundreds of thousands. Djibouti at that time did not even have a 10,000 standing army and did well considering how mismatched the two countries are. The Eritreans had more than triple the casualty rate of the Djiboutians. Their troops also had low morale and a lot of them saw surrender as a means to escape from the despotic regime of Afewerki. In contrast to the false facts that have been peddled on Snet, both parties have demilitarised the contested land and the Qataris are mediating between the two countries; they have not lost any land as a result of the conflict. That war was a blessing in disguise for the Ciise, they now realise how important it is to strengthen their army and can easily recruit from the hundreds of thousands of young men idle in K5.

Thanks for the info bro. Always great to read another perspective.

[theyuusuf143]

because of its Smallness Djibouti is protected by The international community. even all Somali clans Have an obligation to defend Djibouti than any where else outside their territory. Ethiopia can't claim Djibouti its 100% impossible. Djibouti will exist long after Ethiopia collapses.


back to this topic. Tanks are useless in modern day warfare. the most used weapons are.

1. fighter jets
2. Technicals
3. Snipers
4 Rocket launchers such as BM-21

Any thing else is show off.

[theyuusuf143]

because of its Smallness Djibouti is protected by The international community. even all Somali clans Have an obligation to defend Djibouti than any where else outside their territory. Ethiopia can't claim Djibouti its 100% impossible. Djibouti will exist long after Ethiopia collapses.


back to this topic. Tanks are useless in modern day warfare. the most used weapons are.

1. fighter jets
2. Technicals
3. Snipers
4 Rocket launchers such as BM-21

Any thing else is show off.

[JSL3000]

Djibouti is too weak for war it's better for djbooty to keep selling it's ass to international community.