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Reserve Area (Haud)

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Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Highland » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:22 am

Where does it belong? Can this region be called part of Ogadenia?
Or it is seperate land that was seceded from proper Somalia.

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Queen_Arawello » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:41 pm

post this in the ogaden section...no such thing as somali galbeed..this was a political correctness term introduced in the 1970s..

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Ducaysane_87 » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:50 pm

Haud (or Hawd) is a region of thorn-bush and grasslands in the Horn of Africa, which includes the northeastern part of the Ogaden territory of Ethiopia, as well the adjacent parts of Somalia. The Haud is of indeterminate extent; some authorities consider it denotes the part of Ethiopia east of the city of Harar. I.M. Lewis provides a much more detailed description, indicating that it reaches south from the foothills of the Golia and Ogo mountains. "The northern and eastern tips lie within the Somali Republic, while the western and southern portions (the later merging with the Ogaden plateau) form part of the Harari Province of Ethiopia."[1] For decades following the Italian occupation of Ethiopia in 1941 it (as well as the entire Ogaden) has been an area of conflict and controversy.

The British exerted control of the Ogaden beginning in 1941 as part of the Anglo-Ethiopian Agreement in order to help rebuild Ethiopia. The British administered the Haud as part of their adjacent colony of British Somaliland; even though Ethiopian sovereignty was still recognized in the area. Even after Great Britain removed itself from the rest of Ethiopia, it retained a military presence in the Haud until 1954. Afterwards the British stressed the area's importance by requiring the Ethiopians to allow Somali tribes free access to grazing lands in the Haud. The British signed a treaty with Ethiopia for this purpose. The precise location of the boundary between Ethiopia and neighboring Italian Somaliland was disputed, which further complicated the issue. Despite UN efforts to promote an agreement, none was reached during the 1950s.

In 1960 when Somalia (British and Italian Somaliland as one nation) gained its independence it refused to recognize any pre-1960 treaties defining the Somali-Ethiopian borders. Somalia's government did not want to indirectly recognize any Ethiopian sovereignty over the area. The Haud continued to be used by traditional herdsmen. Throughout the 1960s and 1970s frequent border hostilities took place between the two countries, culminating in the 1977-78 Ogaden War which ended in defeat for Somalia. Although a truce was called following this war, sporadic violence continued in the Ogaden and Haud. This involved the Ethiopian military and police and armed traditional Somali herdsmen in this area, and sometimes the Somali military along the border.



Reference
I.M. Lewis, A Modern History of the Somali, fourth edition (Oxford: James Currey, 2002), pp. 2f



Here is some videos of the outskirts of Hawdka and outskirts of Gaashaamo Town - the Capital of hawd




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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Khalid Ali » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:10 am

THis place hawd and reseve area will have a future with somaliland in the future :sland: :up:

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Burao_Media » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:49 am

khalid ali wrote:THis place hawd and reseve area will have a future with somaliland in the future :sland: :up:


maa waalatay?

Ka Gebilay jooga iyo ka Gaashamo jooga waa ilmaader, ka jooga Harshin iyo ka Maydh jooga waa ilmaader, kaa jooga Aware iyo ka jooga Caynaba waa ilmaader, ka Hargeisa jooga iyo ka Danood jooga waa ilmaader, ka jooga Daroor iyo ka Burco waa ilmaader, ka jooga Berbera iyo ka jooga Camp Hashim waa ilmaader, ka jooga Ceerigabo iyo ka Harta Shiekh jooha wa ilmaader.

Hawd reserve waa Issaq reserve area dont you know, Somaliland reserve area :sland: :up:

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Khalid Ali » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:15 pm

yes weynu ku darsanayna futurka waan ogahay wa dhulkeenii
Somaliland markay dawladeedu cidhibyada isku taagto....
we need to have our own libaration front

called isxaaq people liberation front we will figth every on in the region danaha gaarkay ay leedahay wa mustaqbalka ay la leedahay somaliland.... :sland: :up:

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby ina aadan » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:08 am

Ogadenia

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Khalid Ali » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:38 am

ina aadan wrote:Ogadenia



gumaysii baad la dagalamaysa magaca na ingrees ba idin bixiiyee :lol: :lol:
laakin waad iska cashaqdeen sii gabadh yar magacaas :lol:

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby hanqadh » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:56 pm

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.........hawd dhagaxbuur baa laga maamulaa, ogaden baana leh oo ka shaqeysta, isaaq in buu ka degaa, waa caadi, Ogadenia will take care of them.

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Highland » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:04 am

Hanqadh, so Haud is administered from Dhagahbour?

One thing I know is that the secession of Haud from British Somaliland was what triggered revolutionary northern sentiment of nationalism and our leaders immediately endorsed the concept of Somaliwayn.

Honestly I don't like how the British used a disparaging term such as Reservation(like the Indian reservation). The only right its people were given was only "restricted movement and grazing rights of the tribes".

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby Highland » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:16 am

Queen_Arawello wrote:post this in the ogaden section...no such thing as somali galbeed..this was a political correctness term introduced in the 1970s..


Next topic and time I will.

Queen, you convinced me of something important as I gleaned your eloquent posts. I used to think that Somali galbeed was the best approach as it's inclusive and appropriate term. However, I hardly thought of how Ethiopia employed the "Greater Somalia" accusation to appeal to the world and defend its case much better. With Ogaden (the historical name of the region) fighting for self-determination and equality, no one would buy her false accusation and the west will no longer overlook human rights violations.

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Re: Reserve Area (Haud)

Postby hanqadh » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:56 am

yes dhagaxbuur, and jigjiga is the capital, the former capital of the absame sultunate.

highland now your getting the Vipe, the reason why 77 was not fully successful was becuase the world did not appreciate irredenist ambition's at the time, especially with detent and the cold war, Somalia in the eye's of the world was undertaking an illegal activity, knowing this we took a gamble, Had the somali goverment continued to support the rebels who we're conducting successful operations perhaps like the tigrays and the eritreans todays dilemna would be different, thats why Makhtal dahir was hesitant and Many wslf opposed to direct influence by siyad, but we're silenced by ogadenia officials in somalia, before this the WSLF was reffered to as the ogaden rebels, we saw this in the 1968 newyork times report even.....so the name ogaden is more siyaasad than qabyaalad, it has become more appealing to the world because it has historical and indigenous significance....the movement is seen as indigenous, grass roots, an uprising free from outside influence....it has been successful.


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