A Reminder for our Believing Women

[Enlightened~Sista]

Where did i slander?..keep your head on walaal

its all truth..I have met these people..i used to hang with them..and i personally know of a brother (convert)who left Islam because of them..they made it seem as if Islam was a difficult religion with too many rules.

[UponSallafiyya]

Where did i slander?..keep your head on walaal

its all truth..I have met these people..i used to hang with them..and i personally know of a brother (convert)who left Islam because of them..they made it seem as if Islam was a difficult religion with too many rules.

Human beings have no power about these things...as for him Leaving Islam it was the Qadr of Allah and not because of Salafi's ukhtii, you cannot blame people for something like that.

If you truly believe that Sheikh Rabee founded this dawah then you are clearly wrong and have not done research on this.
How can i take you seriously when your claim is baseless??

Inshallah read this and then we talk ok?

http://www.qss.org/articles/salafi/text.html

[Enlightened~Sista]

You believe there are no scholars in 80% of the UMMAH
You believe Sisters should study midwifery instead of chemistry, engineering etc..because the former is ''beneficial'' and the latter isnt
You believe construction is ''vain'' go and tell that to the poor Somali women who build their own huts in Somalia.
You have not answered ANY of my questions.

Why should i read any of your links?..u want the truth? I have not read a single link u posted. Its clear we donot follow the same Islam.

I know all there is to know about Salafi Madkhalis..what i dont know about them is probably not worth knowing.

[UponSallafiyya]

You believe there are no scholars in 80% of the UMMAH
You believe Sisters should study midwifery instead of chemistry, engineering etc..because the former is ''beneficial'' and the latter isnt
You believe construction is ''vain'' go and tell that to the poor Somali women who build their own huts in Somalia.
You have not answered ANY of my questions.

Why should i read any of your links?..u want the truth? I have not read a single link u posted. Its clear we donot follow the same Islam.

I know all there is to know about Salafi Madkhalis..what i dont know about them is probably not worth knowing.

I rest my case...so on other words you have no clue what the Salafi Dawah is about?
And you base your accusations on hearsay, ok thats all i needed to know.

Unlike you i make myself aware of all the different sects and how they have deviated so not to fall into them and also in order to refute them...

Out out of curiosity...who do you take you knowledge from, inshallah i wish to look into them.

Jazakalah kahr ukhtii and forgive me as i forgive you.

Inshallah I'm off to bed.

Asalama Alaikum Warmatulahi Wabarakatuhu, in the future inshallah Pm me if there is anything you wish to ask and I'm just going to leave this thread as Shaitain makes us all heated up for nothing.

Goodnight

[Sainab]

UponSallafiyyah is a member of the Salafi sect led by Shaykh Rabii Al Madhkali

iska jirra ..they have very extreme views they are very intolerant towards women and nonmuslims...as well as intolerant towards any other Muslims who doesnt agree with their beliefs.

They are a minority sect(less than 3%) the majority of the Ummah are Ahl Al Sunnah wal Jamaah i.e they dont deviate from the majority..

Stick with Mainstream Islam then you're ok...avoid all these little sects..

Istaghfirullah!


Infact where you said stick with the mainstream Islam, what did u mean sis?

There is a hadith which is about the seperation of the Ummah where Rasuloolah salallahu 'alayhi wa'salaam said:


"And my Ummah will seperate into 73 groups all of them are in the fire except one". They asked: Who are they O Messenger of Allah? He said: "They are upon what I am upon today and my Companions".

Already we can see there is much difference in the Ummah and very few are on the right path, bidah (innovation) is all around us. So when you say 'stick to the mainstream' sister, I think you will find that the mainstream are misguided, SubhanAllah.
Seriously, be careful what you say to people!

Also in another hadith (agreed upon), Rasuloolah salallahu 'alayhi wa'salaam said "The best of people are my generation, then those who follow them, then those who follow them".

If you have any knowledge sisters you will know that 'Salafi' actually means the first three generations of the Ummah. Therefore, 'Salafi's' are not a sect SubhanAllah, but they are known by their names to be striving upon the way of the Salaf-Us-Salih!

Then if you think they are intolerant and extreme take a look at what AbdAllah bin Mas'ud radiyAllahu anhum said:"They were the deepest in knowledge, had the purest of hearts and were least likely to go astray".

So please sister remember when you mention the salafis as extreme you know who your talking about. The Prophets Companions were the best genration and we try to follow them.

Finally,

The Prophet salallahu 'alayhi wa'salaam said "There will always be people from my Ummah who will be clear upon the truth" .

"Islam began strange and will return strange, may a tree in Jannah be for the strangers".

[MiSs_aaqli]

Assalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah

Sis UponSalafiyya...Reading your posts unfortunetly heated me up a bit. When people insult you, please do not accuse them of insulting the Salaf-AS-Salih...you are not part of them rather you are a follower. So if someone accuses you or insults you do not accuse them of insulting those three generations. Allaahu A3alam

Alhamdulilah i believe we are upon the same aqeedah, however i do not call myself salafi and there is no need.
What makes me sad is that nower days these people who have recently started practising and have taken the path of guidence from the elders do not know how to give Dawah and the proper ettiquiettes and mannorisms are not present. And walahi the amount of people that call theselevs 'Salafi' especially the youngers have this superiority thing going on...Like they are upon Al-Haqq and therefore they have a ticket to paradise.
La! Rather its like there are 73 wells, 72 of them are filthy and one is pure, the one the Prophet saw mentioned to be the straight path and the path of which He saw and his companions were on and the path that whomsoever follows it will obtain Jannah. In any case the true 'Salafis' Alhamdulilah know where that clean well is, and everyone else is lost or wavering around the other 72 wells. Now just because you know where the well is does not mean you have drunk from it or that you know that you will obtain it. (Jannah). All it means is that you know where the guidence is therefore you strive to follow it whereas the other wells have a shaytaan at the top of it calling people to deviance.
I hope that example was clear...

I suggest we all check our aqeedah, Islam is not difficult. Do not be put off by thinking some people are extreem! Because the next person claims the same aqeedah as them yet their Islam and the way they practise it is different and soo attractive and Haqq (truth).

Let me tell you short encounter...

When the Prophet saw died shortly afterwards. There were a group of Muslims sitting in Masjid an-Nabi making Dhkir Allah while counting pebbels in a circle. Each time one of them would say Allahu Akbar then the rest as a 'group' would repeat after him, Then he would say Alhamdulilah and they would repeat and then Subhanallah and again they would repeat still counting the pebbels.
So Abdurahman bin Awf r.a. looked at them and thought to himself what are they doing? it looks attractive because they are making the Dhikr of Allah yet at the same time it does not seem right. So beside him was Abdullah ibn Masooud r.a, so he said ya Abdullah ibn Masooud do you see those people there, i see them doing something so beautiful yet so STRANGE. So Abdullah ibn Masood got up and asked those people what they were doing and the people said can you not see that we are making Dhikr of Allah? Ibn Masood said The Prophet saw has not been dead long and still living amoungst you are many of his close Companions r.a. and his (saw) cloths are still being worn and you sit here and tell me that your making Dhikr? Basically the moral of this was that the Prophet (saw) was not dead long and these people were in the masjid practising innovation (Bidah) something new invented matter into the religion while there were many Sahabah alive and they did not practise this. So when these groups started to emerge the Sahbah called themseleves Ahlul Sunnah wal Jammah meaning followers of the Sunnah as a group/Congregation.

Apolgies if i did not narrate the story word for word correct.
Anything i have said wrong is from myself and shaytaan and anything good is from Allah the all-Wise.

Here is a beautiful link on what the Salafi Dawah is to clear misconceptions:

There are 8 parts please watch. Please do not blind follow because there are many that call the self Salafi do not act it. Personally i choose not to lable myself but from the sources i take from and the Ulema and Shiekhs i take from you will know my aqeedah. So i advice you not to be obliged by anyone to call yourself anything as Allaah knows what lies in your hearts. Allaah Ta3ala knows best

Sorry for the long post, forgive me InshAllah.

[Dhers]

Assalamualaykum, I agree with the above post masha'Allah.. The mentality of Salafis making them seem like a sect is a bit daunting subhan'Allah, but Al-Albanee (rahimahullah) did say that when differing upon manhaj it is permissible and best for you to say that you to follow the salaf. And insha'Allah we are all of the Ahlul Sunnah Wal Jamma'a and Ahlul Jannah ameen thummah ameen!

Now insha'Allah, this disagreement will end up between certain members in this section, agree to disagree.

[FAH1223]

UponSalafi, SubhanAllah you nor I can make a strong state that someone has deviated from the path of Allah, particularly someone of knowledge. Allah knows best what thier hearts conceal..

Ulhtii I personally haven't refuted these people but the Ulema's so inshallah do not take from them as they have deviated....subhanna'Allah even a student of Sheikh Albani Rahimahullah deviated from the straight path so it just goes to show that anyone can deviate if they don't guard themselves.

Inshallah I'll be posting good topics like the manners of the Muslim woman etc soon, and inshallah there will be no arguing in this post as that is not good and one should never question our Beloved Prophet Sallahu Alyewasalam.

As for Enlightened sista...ukthii i worry about you...you seem so full of hate, if you do not agree do not viciously attack people as only you will get the punishment for it, and inshallah i recommend you go and study this deen before making wild statements that are frankly not islamic and has no basis in the sharia or Islam.
Know dear sister i will not be replying to your posts only correct you if you post something which might mislead people and inshallah i'll make dua for you and all my sisters and brothers in islam for Allah always to keep us on the straight Path and grant US jannah inshallah.

Like I said even Abu Usama sis, did you know?
Imam Siraj Wahhaj may Allah grant his Jannah is another MashaAllah great one.

Sis your confusing me, so much I wanna say but InshaAllah please do continue to post the knowledge you have.


MashaAllah everyone watch this InshaAllah........

Masha'Allah!

I love Imam Siraj...he's done a lot of great things here in the America for Islam (He's also given some great talks here in the Washington DC area)...May Allah bless him, ameen ya rabb.

[Sainab]

Jazak'Allah Miss_Aaqli for the post.

I dont think we should be criticising eachother anyway and eventhough I dont call my self a name/label e.g. 'Salafi' I dont think there is anything wrong with that.

As long as you are truly following that way and have the right intentions inshAllah you will not decieve ppl.

Asalaamu alaykum.

[surrender]

how hard is it, to be sunni. these day?

[MiSs_aaqli]

BarakAllahu Feekum sis Sainab

Well it is not hard to follow the Sunnah Alhamdulilah.
But unfortunetly there are many people that teach things that did not exist at the time of the Prophet (saw) and his Companions r.a. so they also claim to be sunni and people follow them blindly thinking it is correct, maybe even their leaders themselevs actually believe what they teach is correct and are ignorant And may Allah protect us from this Ameen. But in reality it is some culture they have adapted to through generations (Parts of it is true and parts are false). Therefore it is an innovation, a newly invented matter into the deen of Allaah (swt). And Allaah swt is Most-Forgiving All-Merciful so if we repent and turn back to him he swt will forgive us.

A famous Sahaabi Khalid bin Waleed once said: Allah is what you think of him i.e. If you truly believe he swt will forgive you then he swt will.

As Muslims we should always make Dua that Allah guides us to the 'STRAIGHT' path with sincerity. Notice we recite this everyday Surah Al-Fatitha in our Salah, but do we ponder over its meaning? So Dua is very important.

And if we have a dispute over anything we should always refer it back to the earlier generations. InshAllah.

P.s. You should really look into the lives of the great Sahabas. Walahi it will cause something to enter into your hearts.

Wa'Salaamu Alaykum Wa RahmatuAllah

[Sainab]

Jazakillahu khayran sis Miss_Aaqli.

[military-mind]

i dont think people should use this forum to PREACH.. I agree with Enlightened sis, i thought i was the only one who noticed.. UponSallafiya sis, ur intentions are good LAAKIN u should give advice cos u preach in most of ur topics usin ulama words and it comes across as thats the RIGHT WAY the ONLY WAY!

[it_girl18]

subhanallah... im speechless...
ur EXTREME views on the LIMITATION of education for women just leaves me in utter shock and disbelieve...

i personally believe it is of extreme importance that a many women as possible get as much education available.
as a single soul... a single human being they only person whom u should rely on and count on after allah swt... is urself.
i'v seen too many me who have let their women down, who abuse to their women in unimaginable ways and do u knw why the women stay... its because most of the times they depend on this man... they have no-one but this man therefore its better for them to tolerate cruelty in order to live/survive.

so if i can gain a piece of paper... that allows me to better my future, i will jump at the chance... at the end of the day.. when my husband decides to leave.. i can show him the door and my kids can depend on me to put food on their table.

the STRICT ragime of the taliban in afganistan, made it impossible for a woman to leave her home without a muharam... now explain to me, what if (due to all the fighting all killing, they're widowed) what happens then. should she starve at home. should she b forced to beg? all because they oppose FREE MIXING.

allah is most kind, he knws whats in ur heart... and i doubt allah will b angered by me (allah forbid) because i went to work, in a office of men to provide for my children..

its true some ppl just complicate the religion. why cant we just all b MUSLIM and follow the SIMPLE religion of ISLAM. lets forget our silly little sects. why cant we take our guidence from the quran (our actual guide straight from allah)
not everything is BLACK and WHITE... there is a reason why allah insists his most forgiving.

[Cisse Westlake]

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fardousa look at what education has done to you.