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Who and What are the Salaf?

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby smooth » Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:27 pm

Lets take this discussion to the "brixton" thread, It's been a while since i have posted around here, I'm desperate to expose these innovators that are send on a mission on these boards to cause confusion and Sectarianism

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby *BAIT* » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:20 am

HOW YOU GONNA CALL YOUR SELF A SALAF. ITS GOOD TO BE ON THE SALAFI DAAWA BUT THE TRUE SALAFS WERE THE FIRST YEARS AFTER PROPHET MOHAMMED DIED PBUH.
HOW YOU GONNA COMPARE YOUR SELF TO ONE. THEY SAW HOW THE PROPHET LIVED AND WHAT HE DID. WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY WE ARE ONE BUT WE CAN SAY WE CAN FOLLOW ONE. PLUS YOUR PUTTING YOUR SELF IN TO SETS, WHICH IS HARAAM. PROPHET MOHAMMED SAID IF YOU FOLLOW THE QURAN AND THE SUNNAH THEN YOU CAN NOT GO ASTRAY.

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby North brother » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:17 am

salaf are on the right path like it or not gacantaan u tageey
mujahideen fisabilah.

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby _BuFF_GYAL_ » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:25 am

mashallah mashallah.....im jus excited to see many bros n sis on here that are understanding the methodolodgy of the salafu saalih.......


laakin to those that are confused then go to this website www.salafipublications.com

n listen to the authentic talks by the top scholaars of today n the past n the da'ee www.salafiaudio.com it will ease some of y'all misconseptions about the dawatul salafiya..i mean its nuttin new to me i have many family memebrs that where practising since i was a baby so the dawatul salafiya is not something new to me any way ....check those above websites

Endure4Allah up MAY ALLAH REWARD YOU as it was related in the book enjoying good n forbrdiing evill by sheikh ul islam ibn taymiya ''we are commanded to command the good n forbid the evil''

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby ENDURE4ALLAH » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:30 am

ASAMALA ALAIKUM
JAZAKALAH KAYR SISTER...I HOPE INSHALLAH THAT MY FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ISLAM WILL LEAVE THE PATH OF IGNORENCE AND CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE;
www.salafipublications.com
AS IT IS INDEED BENEFICIAL INSHALLAH.

AND I PRAY AND WILL MAKE DUA THAT ALLAH WILL GUIDE MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN FAITH FOR TRULY I LOVE YOU ALL FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH.

AND ALL PRAISES GO TO ALLAH THE MERCIFUL..THE SUPRMEME.

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Abdi_westldn » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:20 am

[quote="toby"]ASALAMU ALYKUM

THE SALAFI WAY OF TEACHING IS THE RITE WAY AS THEY WILL TEACH YOU THE BASIC PRINCIPLE OF THE DEEN

'TO BUILD A HOUSE U MUST HAVE FOUNDATION' THE HOUSE IS THE HUMAN AND THE LEGS TO STAND ON ARE TAWHEED

IN ISLAM THE FOUNDATION IS TAWHEED IF U DONT KNOW TAWHEED THEN U WILL BE LOST AS ISLAM IS BUILT ON THIS PRINCIPLE IT COVERS EVERYTHING U NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOUR LORD[/quote]




to have a house worth living in, you must also think about the INTERIOR of the house. the salafs put toooooo much emphasis of the physical aspect of Islam, the way they pray is murderous, standing shoulder to shoulder, foot to foot, some so close that they'll step on your feet, constantly looking around to see if everyone else is doing the same, surely, performing your salad is more important than the gap between your shoulders.

the beard ultra short trousers, women donned in all envoloping BLACK robes (the prophet his companions and their wives ALL wore white) covering their faces, (though it's haraam to cover your face when you are in the haram) most living on tuugnimo from the government. lol, dad xaraam ku nool ma xalaal ba u dhalaneysa? Laughing

the salafs (especially in my area) go out of their way to distinguish themselves as the ONLY muslims, everyone else is either a mushrik, a munafiq, or a kaafir. they have an air of self-importance, so much in fact that if you say salaam to them, you'll hardly ever get one back. it seems as if the salaaf though eager to follow all the physical tasks taht Islam asks you to, they seldom take any time out to focus on the spirital aspect. how many smiling salafis do you see? yet the prophet ALWAYS smiled, even when talking to those who opposed him.

i think the salafis have a thing or two to learn from the sufis. (eventhough they look ridiculous spinning in those circles..)

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby ENDURE4ALLAH » Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:46 am

Asalama Alaikum Brother.

May I remind you that ISLAM IS PERFECT BUT THE PEOPLE WHO PRACTISE ISLAM IS NOT!

Therefore please do not generalise and belittle people inshallah and Love them for the sake of Allah and give them knowledge if they do not know inshallah.

Take the issue up with the Imam who will then advise and tell the brothers and sisters inshallah

Allah keep you safe.

Asalama Alaikum

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Abdi_westldn » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:00 am

[quote="ENDURE4ALLAH"]Asalama Alaikum Brother.

May I remind you that ISLAM IS PERFECT BUT THE PEOPLE WHO PRACTISE ISLAM IS NOT!

Therefore please do not generalise and belittle people inshallah and Love them for the sake of Allah and give them knowledge if they do not know inshallah.

Take the issue up with the Imam who will then advise and tell the brothers and sisters inshallah

Allah keep you safe.

Asalama Alaikum[/quote]



same old excuse...

just because people are not perfect it gives them the green light to practice Islam any way they want? correct me if i am wrong, but i was under the impression that Islam was a religion of PEACE. of mercy understanding love and respect, i see none of those attributes in those who call themselves salafis (not those i know of anyways). i know of one sister who was harassed in the prayer room because her abaya was on her shoulders and not on her head Confused . truth be told, because of my expirience with certain salafis (both somalia and non somali) i am doubtful of them, i dont approach them, and i most certainly do not pray in their mosques. (did that once in the eid of 2004, i had my toes stepped on, and was pulled in both elbows by those standing next to me DURING the prayer.

i'll stick to just being Muslim and see how far that will take me... insha-allah.

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby ENDURE4ALLAH » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:14 am

[quote="Abdi_westldn"]

same old excuse...

just because people are not perfect it gives them the green light to practice Islam any way they want? correct me if i am wrong, but i was under the impression that Islam was a religion of PEACE. of mercy understanding love and respect, i see none of those attributes in those who call themselves salafis (not those i know of anyways). i know of one sister who was harassed in the prayer room because her abaya was on her shoulders and not on her head Confused . truth be told, because of my expirience with certain salafis (both somalia and non somali) i am doubtful of them, i dont approach them, and i most certainly do not pray in their mosques. (did that once in the eid of 2004, i had my toes stepped on, and was pulled in both elbows by those standing next to me DURING the prayer.
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Asalama Alaikum

I beg of you to not generalise...the way of the Salaf is the only true path for that was the path of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw)

And why do you insist on backbiting people dear brother i beg of you to refrain from doing so inshallah.

I will not ague with you as this is a case of opinion and not about religion.
Do not judge people because of the actions of a few ignorent ones.
Is that not what the west are doing against Islam??

Asalama Alaikum

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Qumanyoo » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:20 am

some very good points der ppl...up im a bit shocked with one person tho...Rolling Eyes

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Mentally-ill-MAN » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:36 am

THE KAFAAIR WON

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Abdi_westldn » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:39 am

[quote="ENDURE4ALLAH"][quote="Abdi_westldn"]

same old excuse...

just because people are not perfect it gives them the green light to practice Islam any way they want? correct me if i am wrong, but i was under the impression that Islam was a religion of PEACE. of mercy understanding love and respect, i see none of those attributes in those who call themselves salafis (not those i know of anyways). i know of one sister who was harassed in the prayer room because her abaya was on her shoulders and not on her head Confused . truth be told, because of my expirience with certain salafis (both somalia and non somali) i am doubtful of them, i dont approach them, and i most certainly do not pray in their mosques. (did that once in the eid of 2004, i had my toes stepped on, and was pulled in both elbows by those standing next to me DURING the prayer.
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Asalama Alaikum

I beg of you to not generalise...the way of the Salaf is the only true path for that was the path of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw)

And why do you insist on backbiting people dear brother i beg of you to refrain from doing so inshallah.

I will not ague with you as this is a case of opinion and not about religion.
Do not judge people because of the actions of a few ignorent ones.
Is that not what the west are doing against Islam??

Asalama Alaikum[/quote]



i didnt generalise, as i specifically put in brackets (the ones i came across). as for backbiting, when did i do that? i'm ure you remember the prophet (scw) used to say that one should always assume the best of a fellow muslim, why assume that i am backbiting when i wasnt.

as for it being the ONLY true path, the prophet said that when you are guiding someone you should always tell them to follow one of the paths to jannah as there is not only ONE path to jannah. (allah forgive me for not remembering all the words)

the way of our prophet was never called the way of the salaf, why do you refer to it as that? our prophet was called the beloved, why not show some love to those around you. smile to them when you greet them, and realise that Islam is not found in the clothes you wear but in your heart. and furthermore, i'm sick of salaafs calling everyone who disagrees with them for kaafir, they've forced many somalis out of mosques by calling them kaafirs for holding parties to remember the prophet, saying it was bi'da. which i agree with, but there are other ways of informing people rather than calling them kaafirs. my mother boicotts their weddings as they wont allow the women to wear the diracs (even in in the company of other women), and also because they've banned the durbaan in the buranbur as it encourages people to clap (apperantly thats shaydaans invention lol) i'm suspicious of them because they are slowly destroying all that is good in this vain attaempt in bringing Islam to the people. they think that the more the cover the less they speak the more sullen and miserable they are the more the possibillity of entering jannah... i agree with their concept of tawheed, that people should be wary of shirk, but at the same time, it's like washing one part of the body and not the other, they HAVE to improve on their Islamic manners, they have to show more piety and humility, until then, i will never be convinced of their true intentions.



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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby ENDURE4ALLAH » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:52 am

Asalama Alaikum Brother...

Backbiting is when you say something about someone that is a fault of theirs which happen to be true as you observed from a few muslims who follow the way of the salaf.


As for women wearing a dirac...well is the dirac not see-through??

A woman cannot show her body to other women apart from the places she she washes to make her wudu..please take a look at my post regarding the awra of women amongst women.

Clapping should be avoided as it imitates the way of the kuffar.

With regards to that the salafi's speak less...well did The prophet (saw) not say that if you don't have anything good to say then remain silent??

One must enjoin good and forbid evil.

In weddings the drum is allowed.

Ps when you know someone is doing something wrong you should tell him/her in privat as that is the manner described my the Prophet (saw) and not expose them and make them feel bad for their mistakes.

Asalama Alaikum

And forgive me for saying that you backbit but you did and i should have sent you a private message regarding it and for that i am truly sorry.

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Mentally-ill-MAN » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:03 am

Laughing THIS IS FUNNY

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Re: Who and What are the Salaf?

Postby Abdi_westldn » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:48 am

endure for allah, salaam to you sxb. i wont discuss any further with you. lets just agree to disagree. lakum dinakum waliya deen.



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