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Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:14 pm
by LANDER-4-LIFE
mansha allah..it's good to see sisters wearing their hijab. those of you who started wearing it..keep it up walal. may allah reward you for it.

i wear cabaayad and scarf. i've always wore scarf n skirt, but i started wearing cabaayads bout 2/3 years ago. After joining the islamic society in uni, i thought why not...i mean people can see your muslim anywayz, coz you wear a scarf..might as well have the full islamic dress.

nowadays, i feel kinda odd if i got out without my cabaayad, coz im soo used it.
insha allah one day i would consider wearing the full jilbaab, but i don't think it's quite practical in this country. unless you stay at home.

_Buff_Gyal: salaaaaaaaaaamz sis, we're never online @ the same time these days!

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:20 pm
by ENDURE4ALLAH
Asalama Alaikum Waramatulahi Wabarakatuhu.

Intersting topic...

i used to wear the abaya and hijab but then as i gained more knowledge i found out that the proper covering was the jilbab as it covers from your head til your toe, the abaya is not the correct covering as it reveals your figure, but mashallah that sisters are comitting to wear the abaya seeing as how that is the first step towords the jilbab.
So i stopped wearing the abaya (now i wear it under my jilbab)
And yes i wear the niqab and gloves alhamduliah.

Asalama Alaikum

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:23 pm
by LANDER-4-LIFE
^^ mansha allah sister, may allah reward you.
a lot my family actually wear the jilbaab and niqaab. and i know as your faith grows your "Hijab" does change.

salam

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:30 pm
by ENDURE4ALLAH
Jazakalah Kahr sister and may Allah keep us all on his straight path inshallah.

Keep making useful topics like this as people need more knowledge inshallah and we need to be proud of our muslim heritage and Make dikr for Allah Aazz Wa'jaal.

Asalama Alaikum

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:08 pm
by Lil_Cutie..
W/Salaam Smile !

Hmmm.. Lets get one thing straight, many people use different terms unfortunatly.
I know the Somali community use the word cabayad for the full loose gown but the Asian community use the term Bukra and I know a few Afgan and other Asian's who use the term Jilbab.. So thats 3 different terms to mean 1 thing. It can be confusing. These are all correct terms btw. Smile & I will elaborate on the Somali terms only InshaAllah--

The Cabayad;
For most people;
http://www.jahida.com/abayas/index.php/cPath/65_25
This is a loose all in one outfit, some might call it a dress. It is meant to cover you from top to bottom, hopefull with long sleeves and loose all round.


The Jilbab;
In the Somali community it is this http://www.almoultazimoun.com/images/ji ... ewils2.jpg
You can also get half jilbaab's which only come up to your waist and have no arms and if often accomplained in a two piece so with this comes a long loose skirt, Some people often say is the correct hijaab!--> http://www.jahida.com/images/khi01.jpg
(The full Jilbab is sometimes complimented with the Niqab/Veil.)


Hijaab;
Now the Hijaab has many meanings aswell, some use it as 'just' a head cover (like a helmet?Unfortunatly)..Others use it to mean the full code and covering of the head and bossoms and covered, some like I've mentioned before Somalis call the half jilbab a proper hijab.
There is also a term in the Somali comunity called a 'Qamar' which is the basic headscarf..
http://www.thehijabshop.com/press/image ... JAB_02.jpg


Niqab/Veil;
Full face covering but only eyes showing..
http://www.mybindi.com/lifestyle/images ... /niqab.jpg
Some sisters also wear gloves and make sure there feet aren't showing by either having the jilbab extremly long to the floor or by wearing shoes that do not shoe thier feet.


Bukra;
This is a term as I've mentioned may vary from country to country whereas some don't have this. Also this is one which involves the Niqab..This covers everything, even the face! It is a slight sheet or thin material to cover the face entirely.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/3827 ... cf1b_m.jpg
Some might say this is a layered Niqab.

Which is possible because it is the same like;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi ... /img/2.jpg

CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG.. Smile I ENJOYED THAT!

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:19 pm
by Lil_Cutie..
Ohh yeh I wear the cabayad and a head scarf/qamar Very Happy

As for the debate around wether the cabayad is correct or not, I say it is exceptable. But some abuse the concept and the whole idea of it as always, but Allahu calum.

However, some might also say this is not right because when you lift up your arm the abayad sleeve will fall down and therefore flashing your skin (even though it may be an accident). My Answer to that is simple; you wear a long sleeve tight top underneath OR as I often do (because I get hot in my cabayad's I usually just wear short tops) is I buy loads of those sleeves, you can get them from all islamic stores or hijab places I suppose, it is just very long gloves that goes up to your elbows and you put them on and your abayad goes over it, so no skin will flash. You can so get it without the finger part.
......BUT this all depends on how your cabayad is made, like material wise or style, my ones are often have a button on the sleeve part like a Tshirt so that wont happpen.
Secondly, The whole feet thing, its best to get cabayad's made that are lonnnnnng, Lol..some of mine are literally sweeping the floor, its great because you cant see my feet. Smile !!

All these dilema's are gone with the full Jilbab which is one material and all in one, thats why some say the cabayad isnt correct.
But The Jilbaaabs look comfortable!!! InshaAllah one day.. Wink

WaSalaam X

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:32 pm
by *Anonymous*
salaam

i agree with lil cutie, the cabaya is the correct dress if it is worn like you should. the cabaya covers all the body parts and if you wear a hijab that comes over your chest then i don't see why it isn't correct. the cabaya obviously becomes incorect if you fold the arms or tuck it into your jeans like some people do, but if it's worn like i described above then i don't see it being a lot different from a jilbab

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:41 am
by Qatar_isaaq_chick
Ofcourse i wear the ninja clothe it's the newest fashion these days its sow in somaha Shocked

Not to mention that i used to rob banks with it Laughing

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:58 am
by Wild@Heart
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ISTAGFRULLA

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:12 pm
by _BuFF_GYAL_
the full hijab i.e ''jilbab'' is the correct way of the islamic dress code for women!

once you understand have gained knoweldge u will then understand coz i use to think like this..like the abaya n the head scarf is enuff laakin to be honest it aint i wear a long headscarf with abaya laakin i so wanna start wearing the full hijab i.e jilbab ...all the culama say its obligatory for the god fearing woman to wear the full hijab i.e jilbab.

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:14 pm
by _BuFF_GYAL_
[quote="Lil_Cutie.."]Ohh yeh I wear the cabayad and a head scarf/qamar Very Happy

As for the debate around wether the cabayad is correct or not, I say it is exceptable. But some abuse the concept and the whole idea of it as always, but Allahu calum.

However, some might also say this is not right because when you lift up your arm the abayad sleeve will fall down and therefore flashing your skin (even though it may be an accident). My Answer to that is simple; you wear a long sleeve tight top underneath OR as I often do (because I get hot in my cabayad's I usually just wear short tops) is I buy loads of those sleeves, you can get them from all islamic stores or hijab places I suppose, it is just very long gloves that goes up to your elbows and you put them on and your abayad goes over it, so no skin will flash. You can so get it without the finger part.
......BUT this all depends on how your cabayad is made, like material wise or style, my ones are often have a button on the sleeve part like a Tshirt so that wont happpen.
Secondly, The whole feet thing, its best to get cabayad's made that are lonnnnnng, Lol..some of mine are literally sweeping the floor, its great because you cant see my feet. Smile !!

All these dilema's are gone with the full Jilbab which is one material and all in one, thats why some say the cabayad isnt correct.
But The Jilbaaabs look comfortable!!! InshaAllah one day.. Wink

WaSalaam X[/quote]

the full hijab i.e ''jilbab'' is the correct way of the islamic dress code for women!

once you understand have gained knoweldge u will then understand coz i use to think like this..like the abaya n the head scarf is enuff laakin to be honest it aint i wear a long headscarf with abaya laakin i so wanna start wearing the full hijab i.e jilbab ...all the culama say its obligatory for the god fearing woman to wear the full hijab i.e jilbab.


and cutie where is your daleel???? ..i can fish one out for you staright up.

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:45 am
by Lil_Cutie..
Salaam ^ Are you talking to me? Confused &What is daleel?Reference?

I think you misunderstood me, so walal calm down, I never said the Jilbab is not right or the cabayad is the only way, or insulted the Jilbab or cabayad in anyway. SubxnaAllah.
.. I said the Cabayad is expectable! It is not something you can say is totally unexpectable!!..I have never heard anyone say that.

Yes the Jilbab is PREFERABLE and extremly highly. & Like I said alot of issues of the cabayad are gone that may be experienced with the beautiful jilbab. There is a big debate concerning the definitions and styles.
If we are honest, the cabayad is better than wearing jeans, long tops and scarf, or skirts and tops and scarf..etc. That is why it is Expectable and that is why you can not say it is perhaps 'haram'/Forbiden or not absolutly correct.
So please do not patronize because yes I also have some knowledge(Alxamdulilah),& by the will of Allah I ask him to increase it for all of us. Smile Aameen.



Like I said Allahu Calum..

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:20 am
by _BuFF_GYAL_
[quote="Lil_Cutie.."]Salaam ^ Are you talking to me? Confused &What is daleel?Reference?

I think you misunderstood me, so walal calm down, I never said the Jilbab is not right or the cabayad is the only way, or insulted the Jilbab or cabayad in anyway. SubxnaAllah.
.. I said the Cabayad is expectable! It is not something you can say is totally unexpectable!!..I have never heard anyone say that.

Yes the Jilbab is PREFERABLE and extremly highly. & Like I said alot of issues of the cabayad are gone that may be experienced with the beautiful jilbab. There is a big debate concerning the definitions and styles.
If we are honest, the cabayad is better than wearing jeans, long tops and scarf, or skirts and tops and scarf..etc. That is why it is Expectable and that is why you can not say it is perhaps 'haram'/Forbiden or not absolutly correct.
So please do not patronize because yes I also have some knowledge(Alxamdulilah),& by the will of Allah I ask him to increase it for all of us. Smile Aameen.



Like I said Allahu Calum..[/quote]

aslamualaikum ..

no1. daleel means evidence... so u where making it out like the abya n head scarf is the full dress code for the muslimma n it aint...

yes ur correct mashallah its way way better than the kuffar woman way of dress i.e trousers n tops n wot not....

no 2. i never said the the abay n headscarf is unappropriate..subxanallah ...i said its not the dress code that is ordained by us .. from allah swt in the quran and what the culama ( scholars have all agreed upon ... ma garatay? ....n inadeer i aint patronizing no one Surprised ....

if u felt that way then kuli khair n raalahoooooo!

Re: Question for the girls...Re: Hijaab

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:42 am
by Lil_Cutie..
Alrighttttyy