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what is a wahabi ?

Is not al-wahab a name of allah, so the use of this term is inncorrect.

As for the shiekh muhammed abdul-wahab, then he did not bring anything new into the religion. He was a reviver of tawheed and jihad, and a caller to the quran and the sunnah.

As for those who choose to use this term wahabi in a insulting way they are either;

Either a kafir (infidel, disbeliever)

Or a Shia, Rafidh?

Or an extremist Sufi?

Or a deviant heretic

Or a jahil (ignorant) who repeats what he hears without knowing anything regarding the Shaykh and his Da’wah.

[quote="TheBigBosS"]there is no such thing as wahhabis, never did they call them selfs wahhabis, the shia's came up with that name 3 centuries ago when a group of mujahideen from Jaziiratul carab led by Muhammed ibn Abdulwahhab went on a mission 2 destroy all the graves worshipt by the shia's,sufies and other bicda sects

all the great scholars are labeled as wahhabis, like sheik Albani, ibn Baz and cuthaymien [/quote]


TOOK DA WORDS RIGHT OUT MY MOUF

[quote="ThisIsNotAbdi"][quote="ENDURE4ALLAH"]Asalama Alaikum

Yes it is true that People of the Sunnah often get labled as ''Wahabis'' which is to be rejected i won't go into more details as TheBigBoss has already explained.
But it is not just shia's that call us that but also The Kuffar.


According to Sheik Albani (RA) it is alright for people on the sunnah to call themselves Salafi as alot of The People of Bidah (innovation) call themselves also People of sunnah, therefore to distinguish oneself from these people and to pave a clear path it is permissable to call oneself Salafi.

Needless to say that this is a fake video for no man of Sunnah would sink as low as to say that he is gay..subhanallah!

Shia people in my eyes are worse than the sufi's as they are greater in number and can therefore influence the course of things...
The other day I came across this website in which they were promoting unity with shia, sunni, sufi etc...this angered me a great deal for how can a muslim on the right path be in unity with idol worshippers, soothsayers and magicians, whom deny the divinity of Allah Aazz'wa'jaal??
May Allah's curse be upon all people of innovation and idol worshipping.

(sorry i has to let out some steam...lol)

Asalama Alaikum[/quote]


subxanallah, who gives you the right to say that shias and sufis deny the divinity of Allah? you're very mistaken sister, and you shouldnt say such things about people who obviously call themselves MUSLIM and who have taken the shahaada. it's because of people like you that the muslims are not unitied. i'd take a shia or suufi over a kaafir ANY DAY. as for us being on the right path, sister no-one knows who is on the right path, only Allah knows, it could be that we are wrong and others are right, stop thinking in such a fatalistic way, you should be humble in your belief, dont ever think you are better than others or that only YOUR islam is the RIGHT islam.

i suggest you ask allah for forgiveness because you just committed a grave sin walaal, and i hope allah forgives you for it.[/quote]
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shia shadaha is different then ours, they include ''Ali is the friend of Allah'' only this makes them al ready non-muslims.. u should know more about the true identity of shiasme, they are not muslims cuz they curse the sahaba (Abubakr omar etc..) they say aaisha was a prostitute, they believe in the 12 imams

this what the four major Sunni schools of law said about the shia

Imam Ash-Shafi'i: On one occasion Imam Shafi'ee said concerning the Shia, "I have not seen among the heretics a people more famous for falsehood than the Raafidi* Shia." and on another occasion he said; "Narrate knowledge from everyone you meet except for the Raafidi* Shia, because they invent ahaadeeth and adopt them as part of their religion." (Minhaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah

Imam Abu Haneefah: It is reported that often Imam Abu Hanifah used to repeat the following statement about the Raafidi Shia; "Whoever doubts whether they are disbelievers has himself committed disbelief."

Imam Malik: Once when asked about the Raafidi Shia, Imam Malik said; "Do not speak to them or narrate from them, for surely they are liars." During one of Imam Malik's classes, it was mentioned that the raafidi Shia curse the sahaba. Imam Malik recited the verse, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them." (48:29) He then said, "Whoever becomes enraged when the Sahâbah are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks." (Tafseer al-Qurtubi)


The Shahada as the Sahabas said and what Prophet Muhammad Alayhi Salat wa Salam taught us to Say

http://www.afic.com.au/images/Kalimah-shahadah.gif

Translation: There is no god worthy of worship except God and Muhammad is His slave and his messenger". This declaration of faith is called the Shahada, (to bear witness) a simple formula which all the faithful pronounce.

The Shia False hood below

The Alteration of the Islamic Kalimah in Iran, and the addition Khomeini therein

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shiites/standpoint5.jpg

Translation : I bear witness that there is no deity besides Allaah and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allaah and that Ali is the Wali of Allaah and I bear witness that Khomeini is the Rooh of Allaah and His Hujjat - Astaghfirulah

u still think there muslims

u must read there most authentic book Al-Kaafi is like written by iblies him self

it's not my business what they believe about aisha or abu bakr, thats their slander not mine. but you do not become a kaafir simply by denying the rights of the prophets scw wives, nor do you become a kaafir by claiming ali should have become the first caliph. the way i see it, the dfference between shia and sunni are minute, they differ in the history AFTER islam alone. so why should i label them non-muslims. subxanalah, spare me the trouble, i'd rather go to my grave knowing i never wronged anyone be they shia or sunni than enter the grave and be asked questions about what gave me the right to call others KAAFIRS.

i suggest you follow Islam and not the scholars, most of whom do nothing but spread hate against our fellow muslims....

ASALAMU ALYKUM

THE PROPHET SALLA LAHU ALLAIHIM WASALAM SAID THE RITGHT PATH IS THE ONES WHO ARE UPON WHAT IM UPON AND MY SAHABA

SO HE TOLD US WHAT DA RITE PATH IS SO HW CAN WE SAY ALLAH ALLAM
ABT THE RITE PATH

THE PROPHET SALLA LAHU ALLYHIM WASALAM SAID MY UMMAH WILL NEVER UNITE UPON MISGUIDENCE

SO WE CANT JUS UNITE FOR DA SAKE OF IT

BIDDA IS MORE DANGEROUS DAN SIN AS PEOPLE REPENT FROM SIN BUT BIDDA THEY THINK THEY ARE UPON THE TRUTH

can you all pls stop it

Another Arab fag. What's the big deal, it's not like it's shocking news or anything. The Arabian Peninsula has loads of fudge-packers..It's the norm over there.

[quote="ThisIsNotAbdi"]it's not my business what they believe about aisha or abu bakr, thats their slander not mine. but you do not become a kaafir simply by denying the rights of the prophets scw wives, nor do you become a kaafir by claiming ali should have become the first caliph. the way i see it, the dfference between shia and sunni are minute, they differ in the history AFTER islam alone. so why should i label them non-muslims. subxanalah, spare me the trouble, i'd rather go to my grave knowing i never wronged anyone be they shia or sunni than enter the grave and be asked questions about what gave me the right to call others KAAFIRS.

i suggest you follow Islam and not the scholars, most of whom do nothing but spread hate against our fellow muslims....[/quote]

did u read?

do u even know these 4 scholars ur now attacking? ..bukhari muslim abu dawood the collectors of the sunnah were there students and im not supposed 2 believe them??

ur saying the difference between sunni and shia is minute, i suggest u do more research about shiasme (ur fellow muslims)

[quote="Care_Bears"]Another Arab fag. What's the big deal, it's not like it's shocking news or anything. The Arabian Peninsula has loads of fudge-packers..It's the norm over there. [/quote]

ur ancestors were arabs from the peninsula, not a smart move

btw iraq is not part of the arabian peninsula

Asalama Alaikum

Let us leave this discussion for verily only one whom wishes to learn from authentic sources will benefit here.

As i mentioned earlier on we may live in peace but not in religious agreement as most of these people whom call themselves shia's or sufi's are deviants.

As for 'thisisnotabdi' i pray that Allah mat make your heart soft so that you will hate what He hates and love what He loves.

I see alot of my Brothers and Sisters whom have responded have beneficial Mashallah!

Asalama Alaikum

Ps if you deny anything regarding the Prophet (sallahu' Alyewasalam) and His message are you not then a disbeliever.
And who in their right mind would slander and deny anything about the Prophet (sallahu' Alyewasalam)

[quote="TheBigBosS"][quote="Care_Bears"]Another Arab fag. What's the big deal, it's not like it's shocking news or anything. The Arabian Peninsula has loads of fudge-packers..It's the norm over there. [/quote]

ur ancestors were arabs from the peninsula, not a smart move

btw iraq is not part of the arabian peninsula

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My ancestors eh? Ahhh, dude, just cuz I'm not jet-black (like you) doesn't mean I have Arab admixture.

And when'd I ever say Iraq was apart of the Arabian Peninsula? The Wahabbi fellow confessed in Iraq, but he's probably an Arab foreign fighter (from the...wait for it..Arabian Peninsula).

asalamu alykum

mashallah many scholars on this website i jus wanna knw wer u lot studied and who u studied under?

and when did you gradute?

let me just tell you brothers and sisters your opinion in the deen doesnt matter and they are not any way significant to us as the only thing we take is allah's speach, prophets speach and the companions and what they united upon

[quote="TheBigBosS"][quote="ThisIsNotAbdi"]it's not my business what they believe about aisha or abu bakr, thats their slander not mine. but you do not become a kaafir simply by denying the rights of the prophets scw wives, nor do you become a kaafir by claiming ali should have become the first caliph. the way i see it, the dfference between shia and sunni are minute, they differ in the history AFTER islam alone. so why should i label them non-muslims. subxanalah, spare me the trouble, i'd rather go to my grave knowing i never wronged anyone be they shia or sunni than enter the grave and be asked questions about what gave me the right to call others KAAFIRS.

i suggest you follow Islam and not the scholars, most of whom do nothing but spread hate against our fellow muslims....[/quote]

did u read?

do u even know these 4 scholars ur now attacking? ..bukhari muslim abu dawood the collectors of the sunnah were there students and im not supposed 2 believe them??

ur saying the difference between sunni and shia is minute, i suggest u do more research about shiasme (ur fellow muslims) [/quote]


doesnt matter anyway, abu dawood bukhari and muslim wont come to my defense on the day of judgement, ignorance is no excuse and therefore i will not be the judge as to who is a muslim and who isn't. i'll leave that task to allah and i pray he will forgive me for not being able to hate those who call themselves muslim. i'd make a thousand excuses for them before calling them kaafirs.

[quote="ThisIsNotAbdi"][quote="TheBigBosS"][quote="ThisIsNotAbdi"]it's not my business what they believe about aisha or abu bakr, thats their slander not mine. but you do not become a kaafir simply by denying the rights of the prophets scw wives, nor do you become a kaafir by claiming ali should have become the first caliph. the way i see it, the dfference between shia and sunni are minute, they differ in the history AFTER islam alone. so why should i label them non-muslims. subxanalah, spare me the trouble, i'd rather go to my grave knowing i never wronged anyone be they shia or sunni than enter the grave and be asked questions about what gave me the right to call others KAAFIRS.

i suggest you follow Islam and not the scholars, most of whom do nothing but spread hate against our fellow muslims....[/quote]

did u read?

do u even know these 4 scholars ur now attacking? ..bukhari muslim abu dawood the collectors of the sunnah were there students and im not supposed 2 believe them??

ur saying the difference between sunni and shia is minute, i suggest u do more research about shiasme (ur fellow muslims) [/quote]


doesnt matter anyway, abu dawood bukhari and muslim wont come to my defense on the day of judgement, ignorance is no excuse and therefore i will not be the judge as to who is a muslim and who isn't. i'll leave that task to allah and i pray he will forgive me for not being able to hate those who call themselves muslim. i'd make a thousand excuses for them before calling them kaafirs.[/quote]

make excuses for them?? i know enough