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Postby highclass » Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:56 am

[quote="LazyBoy"]"live longer and commit more GOOD Deeds", is that not possible too?
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THATS WHAT IM TALIKING ABOUT,

IF YOU ARE 27 AND DIE OR 55 AND DIE DOESNT MEAN YOUR MORE LIKLY TO GO HELL BECAUS EYOUR OLDER

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Postby +chilli » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:04 am

[quote="LazyBoy"]chilli,
back to your previous comment, "why there is more women in jail than men" why is that?[/quote]
because they are not trained as men are so can't get away with it..men are more devious..lol
no for real it wasn't like this in the past..ever since the feminist revelation..women hav take this idea of comparing themselfs to men to the extent that they over do it...i read this article once that..wait...where did u get that more women in jail then men kulah loool

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Postby Say_what1 » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:11 am

I just saw this intersting topic and thought posting something from islam-qa.com where dis question has been asked, I post this as a topic too

Question :


Why are there more women in hell than men?

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) that women will form the majority of the people of Hell. It was narrated from ‘Imraan ibn Husayn that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3241; Muslim, 2737)

With regard to the reason for that, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was asked about it and he explained the reason.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allaah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1052)

It was narrated that Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri said:

“The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out to the Musalla on the day of Eid al-Adha or Eid al-Fitr. He passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give charity, for I have seen that you form the majority of the people of Hell.’ They asked, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allaah?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?’ He said, ‘Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.’”

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 304)

It was narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah said: “I attended Eid prayers with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He started with the prayer before the khutbah, with no adhaan or iqaamah. Then he stood up, leaning on Bilaal, speaking of fear of Allaah (taqwa) and urging us to obey Him. He preached to the people and reminded them. Then he went over to the women and preached to them and reminded them. Then he said, ‘Give in charity, for you are the majority of the fuel of Hell. A woman with dark cheeks stood up in the midst of the women and said, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allaah?’ He said, ‘Because you complain too much and are ungrateful to your husbands.’ Then they started to give their jewellery in charity, throwing their earrings and rings into Bilaal’s cloak.”

(Narrated by Muslim, 885)

Our believing sisters who learn of this hadeeth should behave like those Sahaabiyaat who, when they learned of this, did good deeds which would be the means, by Allaah’s leave, of keeping them far away from being included in that majority of the inhabitants of Hell.

So our advice to the sisters is to strive to adhere to the rituals and obligatory duties of Islam, especially prayer, and to keep away from that which Allaah has forbidden, especially shirk in its many forms which are widespread among women, such as seeking one's needs from someone other than Allaah, going to practitioners of witchcraft and fortune-tellers, etc.

We ask Allaah to keep us and all our brothers and sisters far away from the Fire and the words and deeds that bring one close to it.

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Postby LazyBoy » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:11 am

ooooooops sorry i meant "hell" instead of "jail" Laughing Laughing
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so if there is more women in hell, that means women are bad people. and if so then, women can "drag" more men to hell too.

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Postby Say_what1 » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:16 am

[quote="LazyBoy"]ooooooops sorry i meant "hell" instead of "jail" Laughing Laughing
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so if there is more women in hell, that means women are bad people. and if so then, women can "drag" more men to hell too.[/quote]


If there are more somalis that chew chaad then English ppl, thats that mean YOu and somalis are bad ppl?

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Postby LazyBoy » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:28 am

say_what,
so why are there more women in hell then?
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Postby Baby_G_Thugstyle » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:31 am

OMG Shocked Shocked Shocked

i cannot believe the weird twist this whole thread has taken........some of ya'll who r replyin r really takin the PISS......y r ya'll nit-pickin simple facts from the Qur'an and Hadith (more women in hell cus they backbite!>>>simple as....u dont need to take it apart nor present u're twisted views as to y U think that is the case) walaahi dats straight up HARAM! (worst still ya'll may b misleadin ignorant people out there)

The poster was only tryna say......help support the younger generation to be more proud of their deen n make hijab something to be proud of instaed of somethin to be shunned!

instead...ya'll engage in idle chit chat about certain aspects of our religion>>> Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

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Postby +chilli » Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:38 am

loool why you so shocked u saying Islam can't b talked about?.. so some of us are lil ignorant..we are learning n saywat just posted some good facts.
we was saying our opinions sis nothing wrong with it...some1 say something wrong?.. correct them don't criticize

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Postby LazyBoy » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:02 am

^^^ i agree with chilli 100%

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Postby Say_what1 » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:25 am

[quote="Baby_G_Thugstyle"]OMG Shocked Shocked Shocked

i cannot believe the weird twist this whole thread has taken........some of ya'll who r replyin r really takin the PISS......y r ya'll nit-pickin simple facts from the Qur'an and Hadith (more women in hell cus they backbite!>>>simple as....u dont need to take it apart nor present u're twisted views as to y U think that is the case) walaahi dats straight up HARAM! (worst still ya'll may b misleadin ignorant people out there)

The poster was only tryna say......help support the younger generation to be more proud of their deen n make hijab something to be proud of instaed of somethin to be shunned!

instead...ya'll engage in idle chit chat about certain aspects of our religion>>> Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes[/quote]

I agree with chilli

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So that hadith from the prophet is something we have twisted?

If you claim that we are misleading ppl why dont you pick out the thing and lets talk about it, I give my sourse, You can check up yourself..

If you claim to know i be more then happy seeing you proving us wrong!

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Postby tWiStED_aNgELL » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:36 am

maasha'allah ppl

i wear ma scarf though and i hope all u other girls wear them
ps. pray ur salat dee

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Postby Baby_G_Thugstyle » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:04 pm

@say_what....walaalo i didnt say there was anythin wrong with wat EVERYBODY posted....i said SOME people>>>

@chilli....nor am i sayin Islam shouldn't b talked about....

wat i am sayin though is....fair enough someone said "i heard there are more women in hell than men...why???" dats an aight question....BUT then everybody started to state y that may b without any knowledge i.e "mayb it's because there are more women in the world's population than"

now correct me if an wrong....but i know there is a hadith that talks about how bad it is to credit somethin to Islam that u cant back up....i.e from Hadith or the Holy Qur'ar

all dat am sayin is.....the tone of this whole thread (EXCEPT THE USEFUL INFO SAY_WHAT POSTED) was startin to get a bit philosophical ......n our Prophet (SCW) warned us against debatin idly about our deen n askin too many questions...so ya'll do da maths Very Happy

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Postby +chilli » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:09 pm

[quote="Baby_G_Thugstyle"]@say_what....walaalo i didnt say there was anythin wrong with wat EVERYBODY posted....i said SOME people>>>

@chilli....nor am i sayin Islam shouldn't b talked about....

wat i am sayin though is....fair enough someone said "i heard there are more women in hell than men...why???" dats an aight question....BUT then everybody started to state y that may b without any knowledge i.e "mayb it's because there are more women in the world's population than"

now correct me if an wrong....but i know there is a hadith that talks about how bad it is to credit somethin to Islam that u cant back up....i.e from Hadith or the Holy Qur'ar

all dat am sayin is.....the tone of this whole thread (EXCEPT THE USEFUL INFO SAY_WHAT POSTED) was startin to get a bit philosophical ......n our Prophet (SCW) warned us against debatin idly about our deen n askin too many questions...so ya'll do da maths Very Happy[/quote]

know that hadith The Prophet (peace be upon him) discouraged people from being over-inquisitive and unnecessarily curious about every question without a clear intention...it was aimed at the hypocrits of the day.

yea i get ya...but what Islam mostly encourages is asking questions and talking about the deen..debating idly? no cuz it was away of getting answer..so what i stated my opinion did i say oh this is true read bk i said this totally based on my opinion...i get ya

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Postby Ureysoo » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:44 pm

lil miss mocha, jazak allah qeer sis. I posted a similar thread explaining some areas....about how ppl from foreign religions thinks about *Islam* and trying 2 change Muslim sisters notion, and our religion *quran* really vary with the points they stated....beside it's true *stereotypes* got a hefty link 2 it...4 instance in Somalia....non of the families nuisance their selves in order 2 educate their daughters, plus they force them 2 marry some1 by force *arrange marriages*...which is against our religion. Over all that they refuse 2 admit the verity men and women r regarded the same although each 1 of them got different nature and certain behaviour they should stick 2... Surprised

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Postby >..FeiSty Madame..< » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:57 pm

Chilli, I get the story now and you are indeed wrong lool.

Lil_Miss_Mocha, I know what you mean. Every day you see muslim women being made a fool of by these kufaars saying we're "oppressed" just cuz she's covered from head to toe. And the media goes overboard with it. But it's the job of the parents to educate their kids about how muslim women were the first women on earth who actually gained RIGHTS centuries ago. All this BS created by the media is just messing up the heads of many muslim kids these days. Hence parents with strong iimaan and alot of knowledge are required Exclamation

Thanks for this post by the way sis. Good one Smile .


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