takfiiris-supporters of ittihad icu. do they deserve to rule

[musika man]

few years ago, we had a shop catered only for muslims, and some of our customers called the shop complaining from several people who hanged outside the shop. when we approached them, they were 4 iqwaani guys, who told other muslims to join their sect, otherwise they are just like kafirs. that made me read about their philosophy, qutbism and wahabism. i read the writings of ayman al zaweihiri who is a qutbist himself from a very young age, but intrepretted more radical than qutbi himself. these people believe all the muslims who are not from their sect are so corrupted, which they should be killed and treated like the kuffar. they consider other muslims the enemy within. when they are weak and want protection, they talk about unity, but when they are strong they will behead you, me, biko and all muslims who dont belong to heir sect just like kafir mad mac.

we know the islamic courts union were hijacked by tribal takfiiris like indhocadde, do they deserve respect and protection? let us have democracy like somaliland. new somalilander.

[musika man]

somalis in the west, they choose fancy names like salafi, and hate to call themselves sunnis, do you know why? they don't believe in any of the tariqa or islamic jurispundence of the four imaams of sunni islam. a new tariiqa, where women can't drive like in saudi arabia, and all men should wear beards at all times.

[musika man]

unlike england, the united states is avoiding to racialize the somali radicals who we know learnt their religion from saudi funded institutions. most of us are sunnis and peaceful.

[musika man]

dont avoid them fight them.

[AbdiWahab252]

Musika,

I trust the Suufi Wadaads of Mudug & their Qadiiriya.

I opposed anyone who opposes the Xuuska Cabdallah & Cawareere.

[musika man]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Musika,

I trust the Suufi Wadaads of Mudug & their Qadiiriya.

I opposed anyone who opposes the Xuuska Cabdallah & Cawareere.[/quote]

mudane indeed, they are peaceful people who want to build a healthy society.

[muslim-man]

Musika,

Salafi Jadiid are simply Takfiiris, the brother of Sh. Daahir Aweys called Ahmed Aweys was a Salafi. Salafis were not in the UIC, because many of the UIC members were former Al-Itihaad members. Salafis are the mortal enemies of the Al-itihad and actually welcome A/Yusuf's government.

They were created by the Saudi Royal family to make sure that political Islam dies and the religion does not leave the mosques.

They are against Jihad, against fighting oppressive Muslim governments, & against speaking out against Arab governments, etc.

I agree with you that the Salafis/Takfiiris are a dangerous sect that are misleading many Muslims from the right path. They tried to cause division in many masjids, including my own masjid.

[musika man]

[quote="muslim-man"]Musika,

Salafi Jadiid are simply Takfiiris, the brother of Sh. Daahir Aweys called Ahmed Aweys was a Salafi. Salafis were not in the UIC, because many of the UIC members were former Al-Itihaad members. Salafis are the mortal enemies of the Al-itihad and actually welcome A/Yusuf's government.

They were created by the Saudi Royal family to make sure that political Islam dies and the religion does not leave the mosques.

They are against Jihad, against fighting oppressive Muslim governments, & against speaking out against Arab governments, etc.

I agree with you that the Salafis/Takfiiris are a dangerous sect that are misleading many Muslims from the right path. They tried to cause division in many masjids, including my own masjid.[/quote]

those people are scary and there are few of them here like highclass and salahudiin.

[gurey25]

[quote]They were created by the Saudi Royal family to make sure that political Islam dies and the religion does not leave the mosques.
[/quote]

They have made Jihad into a bad word and made us forget that Jihad is the duty of every muslim.
all this is to insure that the return of a real islamic state is prevented and that the House of Saud Survives.


all muslim movements should know that Saudi Arabia is a greater threat than the West.
US bullets will kill your bodies, Saudia will kill your minds

[musika man]

[quote="gurey25"][quote]They were created by the Saudi Royal family to make sure that political Islam dies and the religion does not leave the mosques.
[/quote]

They have made Jihad into a bad word and made us forget that Jihad is the duty of every muslim.
all this is to insure that the return of a real islamic state is prevented and that the House of Saud Survives.


all muslim movements should know that Saudi Arabia is a greater threat than the West.
US bullets will kill your bodies, Saudia will kill your minds[/quote]

^^^

salahudiin thinks saudis have achieved better than all muslims including early muslims in andulsia spain. high class bleieves beard is fard. muslims sank low cause they believe the new saudi islam. what have the saudis done to advance islam than produce suicide bombers and a backward society?

"musika man

Yep, Andalusia is a great example about the subject of this topic. Where are they now? They were killed or converted to christianity.

When Dajjaal comes his followers will live in success and luxury and they have everything they need. On the other side muslims are the poorest and they don't have anything to eat. Now is this an evidence that they who follow Dajjaal will be on a right path?"

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[Seoma [Crawler2]]

saudi sheikhs are hypocrites. they get all kind of fatwa to not help us to fight our enemy. they said in palestine we have to wait mahdi to save us n we should not fight. cowards.

[musika man]

[quote="mOwLiDmAcAaNe"]saudi sheikhs are hypocrites. they get all kind of fatwa to not help us to fight our enemy. they said in palestine we have to wait mahdi to save us n we should not fight. cowards.[/quote]

malabeey, i will kill a whole nation to protect you.

saudi sheikhs like bin bazz issued a fatwa the americans to invade irak in 1991. they issued again 3 years ago america to invade irak. these people think these saudi sheikhs are better than the 4 wonderful imaams of sunnis. they now want to create a big sunni/shia war in the muslim world, a trick all sunnis will support these crazy takfiiris to lead the sunni war.

[Padishah]

I despise those Kharawarijee's cum religions reformers.

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

few idiologist with money are who is working hard to get muslim youth for their own greed for power, having said that saudi sheikhs are paid by their government. they're loyal to whos paying their bills.im not blaming them for that.

[Padishah]

From Sunnipath Answers:

Growing the beard is a command from the Prophet Muhammad (salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam) to the men of his Ummah. More specifically, the prohibition is to not shave the beard (that is, a man who simply cannot grow facial hair at all has not disobeyed this command). Although Imam as-Shafi'i wrote an opinion that shaving the beard is haram...the mu'tamid or most relied upon opinion in our madhab is that shaving the beard is makruh.

Trimming the beard is permissible and the most recommended length is a fist-length. Be careful not to trim you beard to the point where it no longer fits the definition: the hair that *sprouts* (nabit) from the chin. (I personally don't think stubble would count, but Allah knows best).

Finally, (and this is very important), Habib Ali stated that we should remember that the beard in its essence is not a criterion for taqwa. People of other religions have been known to grow very long beards, but that says nothing of their position with Allah. To look at another Muslim and judge his closeness to Allah by the length of his beard (or whether he has one for that matter) would be a grave mistake.


I don't know about fard. But if you're a die-hard Shafi'ite, you wont shave your beard. If not, well, its between you and Allah.