KOSOVO IS TO GAIN INDEPENDENCE,what about somalilands

[Somalistan]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Somaliland's independence can only occur if it goes the way of Czechoslovakia:

1. A formal UN approved referendum in Somalia with voting in every region from Zeila to Kismayo.

2. If there is a 50% majority for separation, there should be a run off on a single issue: separating North from South along a certain border.

3. A formal ratification dissolving the Union of Somalia with two countries being formed Somalia and Somaliland.

It worked in Czechoslovakia because everyone approved of the dissolution of the Republic.

Somaliland's bid failed because it failed to include the South in the process.

In 1961, when the Union was ratified, all regions voted on the issue of Unification and was inclusive.[/quote]

Not exactly. The referendum is not held nationally, it's held within the region that is applying for indepenedence. If the majority within the seccesion region's population vote 'yes' for seccession, then it could be approved by the U.N.

[Somalistan]

Both nations of Somaliland and Kosove have had similar experiences as a people, both nations being under brutal military regimes and all.

There are however some reasons as to why Kosovo will get recognized before Somaliland is.

Kosove is a European nation which is at the center of attention following the 1999 NATO missions in which the the U.S led forces dismantled serbians. The world documented and all major players such as the U.S, UK and France were all pushing for the independence of Kosovo.


Whilst Somaliland faced similar problems under the military regime, but the only problem being that it wasn't documented well nor did the world come to find out until recently when somalilanders lobbied for independence.

The third main difference, which is the most important is that Kosove is secceeding from a nation which is already in place and functioning. The stackholders are there to witness and approve or disapprove, but in Somaliland-somalia's situation. One of the main body's concern is absent, which makes it that more difficult for Somaliland to get membership in the U.N.

Rest assured, somaliland will eventually get it's hard earned independence if Somalia doesn't get its act together, because Somaliland cannot be held ransom for somalia failures.

[KingTuk]

there is only one somalia

[Somalistan]

^sure there is, and there is only of Somaliland as well. We don't want Puntland to secceed from somalia(one somalia) and we don't want maakhirland to secceed from Somaliland (1 somaliland).

[AbdiWahab252]

Somalistan,

The Union referendum was done all over Somalia in 1961.

The one region with the most number of NO votes against the Union of British and Italian Somaliland was my awowe's region of Hiiraan.

Hiiraan voted 60% against the Union of North and South and had more votes against it than any Northern province.

[AbdiWahab252]

Where in the SNM Constitution did it say that the SNM was fighting for Independence ?

No where.

The SNM fought for "protection of the unity of the people and land of Somalia”

[The_Emperior5]

[quote="KingTuk"]there is only one somalia[/quote]

i agree there is only one somalia

and there is only one somaliland

[The_Emperior5]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Where in the SNM Constitution did it say that the SNM was fighting for Independence ?

No where.

The SNM fought for "protection of the unity of the people and land of Somalia”[/quote]


Wrong snm was fightin for isaaq only isaaq interest

and isaaaq interest later became somaliland

wanuu goosanayna baad dadku ku dhaggeen soo

[smooth]

"Both nations of Somaliland and Kosove have had similar experiences as a people, both nations being under brutal military regimes and all"



Kosovens were the only ethnic group that fought their regime while in Somalia every single tribe (excluding Ilkayar) from "South" to "North" took part in the coupe, this ridiculous comparison must have a humour intend rather then a realistic one.

[Somali_4Life]

Kosovo has the west as supporter. What do you have? Ethiopia is not enough.

[smooth]

"Whilst Somaliland faced similar problems under the military regime"



So I gather from this that you believe you were the only people that suffered under the oppressive regime?

Like AW has said many times, Afweyne's oppression against the reer-mudug's started well before those planes headed to Hargaysa, you don't see us wailing in lamentation and lobbying for independance.

What happend in mudug and Mog were un-provoked savagery attacks, wadaads and sheikhs were rounded up on a daily basis for a entire decade, the SNM actions however were stupid, provacative and deserved retaliation, stop crying about an oppression that you have invited

[COSTA]

Somaliland never existed and will never be accepted into the world community

[Mr.Wise]

[quote="COSTA"]Somaliland never existed and will never be accepted into the world community[/quote]


listen gun yahay, somaliland exist before you, it exist now and will exist tomorow hadaad ku farxi laheyd iyo hadaad isdili laheydba and if I were you I will take the second option since you are Gun, Midgaan, Boon, ama wax aan la aqoon

[The_Emperior5]

costa u wont find refugee in somaliland

we are verry bad for midgaans

[COSTA]

After next seventeen years you guys will still wait that recognition how about if you fix Qaldaan pu55y to Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon just like your great grand fathers used to pimp for UK colonialists maybe that will help your cause