Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
The TFG warlords must be hung for their crimes that they have been commiting against the Somali people since 1991
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Continue. ...AbdiWahab252 wrote:Cawar,
I believe in reconciliation once the birds come home to roost in Afbiijo's land. Majeerten must also face the same kind of treatment the people of Xamar have faced since the TFG and their Ethiopian goons arrived.
Then and only then, can we have peacekeepers. But to allow Majeerten not to suffer and be protected by the Peacekeepers is unfair and will not be tolerated.
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
After the whole nation has suffered equally, we can have peacekeepers from these countries to protect the peace:
1. The Gambia
2. Senegal
3. Bangladesh
4. Qatar
5. Iran
6. Taiwan
7. Sudan
1. The Gambia
2. Senegal
3. Bangladesh
4. Qatar
5. Iran
6. Taiwan
7. Sudan
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
This not nad has never been about MJ and you guys have succeeded (with some) to create this BS beef between somalis and the rest of MJs.
You HG of all ppl are the closest to the MJs..who are we kidding here?? you live side by side..you inter-marry, you share more dhaqan than the rest of somalis.
If you really had any beef with them..you would have gone after them in Pland..but you want to create this bogus situation that MJs are responsible for somalia's ilness.
Where has the last 16 yrs gone??who was responsible for that failure?? a single MJ man showed up less than 2 yrs ago..surrounded by hawiye..and he is responsible for any of this??
What a joke dude. I told you ..you have succeeded in fooling some in tha past..but no one is falling for that anymore..
You either come home and participate in this effort..or you will miss out big time..but o also know thats this is just a show.
Me and you both know..that Ceyr are major players(unlike Sacad) in the somali political arena now days..and their most trusted and progressive leader Mr. A.A/salaam is participatinf in this effeort
He might even be the next PM ..like I said few days ago.
Wake up..before its too late..I hate to see a friend left out of this fruitful situation.
Then again..who really needs you AW..
You HG of all ppl are the closest to the MJs..who are we kidding here?? you live side by side..you inter-marry, you share more dhaqan than the rest of somalis.
If you really had any beef with them..you would have gone after them in Pland..but you want to create this bogus situation that MJs are responsible for somalia's ilness.
Where has the last 16 yrs gone??who was responsible for that failure?? a single MJ man showed up less than 2 yrs ago..surrounded by hawiye..and he is responsible for any of this??
What a joke dude. I told you ..you have succeeded in fooling some in tha past..but no one is falling for that anymore..
You either come home and participate in this effort..or you will miss out big time..but o also know thats this is just a show.
Me and you both know..that Ceyr are major players(unlike Sacad) in the somali political arena now days..and their most trusted and progressive leader Mr. A.A/salaam is participatinf in this effeort
He might even be the next PM ..like I said few days ago.
Wake up..before its too late..I hate to see a friend left out of this fruitful situation.
Then again..who really needs you AW..
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
PM has to go to Abgaal or some shit goes downCawar wrote:Me and you both know..that Ceyr are major players(unlike Sacad) in the somali political arena now days..and their most trusted and progressive leader Mr. A.A/salaam is participatinf in this effeort
He might even be the next PM ..like I said few days ago.
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Cawar,
It has become Somali vs. MJ because of MJ themselves. You lot defend the Ethiopians in coffee shops, throw parties with Ethiopian singers, refer to them as Brothers all in the hopes that the EThiopians will install a MJ dynasty.
HG were disliked but you guys have done a much better job at getting disliked more than HG ever could.
Today, I see Issaq, Darood, Hawiye, Raxanwein even the Cadcads disliking you. You have thrown your lot publically and as an entire tribe behind the traditional enemy of Somalis, Ethiopia.
What next ? Are you going to accept Christianity if it will save Majeerten from the punishment that awaits them for their shameless treachery ?
It has become Somali vs. MJ because of MJ themselves. You lot defend the Ethiopians in coffee shops, throw parties with Ethiopian singers, refer to them as Brothers all in the hopes that the EThiopians will install a MJ dynasty.
HG were disliked but you guys have done a much better job at getting disliked more than HG ever could.
Today, I see Issaq, Darood, Hawiye, Raxanwein even the Cadcads disliking you. You have thrown your lot publically and as an entire tribe behind the traditional enemy of Somalis, Ethiopia.
What next ? Are you going to accept Christianity if it will save Majeerten from the punishment that awaits them for their shameless treachery ?
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Subxaanallah.AbdiWahab252 wrote:Cawar,
What next ? Are you going to accept Christianity if it will save Majeerten from the punishment that awaits them for their shameless treachery ?
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
AbdiWahab252 wrote:
HG were disliked but you guys have done a much better job at getting disliked more than HG ever could.
Today, I see Issaq, Darood, Hawiye, Raxanwein even the Cadcads disliking you. You have thrown your lot publically and as an entire tribe behind the traditional enemy of Somalis, Ethiopia.
This is what you wish for..but it aint happening and you know why??
Because unlike HG..Mjs never attacked any clan and or raped their women, killed their maato..as qabil.
If one person is the leader of the current TFG and his partnerst are HG, Abgaal, other daaroods and ever somali qabil..
How can MJs be responsible for any of whats happening??
Sxb..NO one is faling for that..and you know what?? unlike you..ppl who have suffered a lot because of your uncle's atrocities..have moved on and hold no grudges against you anymore
So ..dont worry no one is after you...ooh and btw.. your uncles voted for AY ..instead of voting for their man Addow..so who is to blame anyways??
you even went as low as saying muslims are accpeting christianity?? I dont go to coffees or fadhi ku dirir..but one thing I know is that I have never seen anyone claiming ethiopians to be walaalo..
Except for here.
Nagu kala wad..waxaagu waa broken record camal..saying the same thing over and over..doesnt make it true or right.
Afur wanaagsan.
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Men responsible for that ARE IN THE TFG!!!!Cawar wrote:Because unlike HG..Mjs never attacked any clan and or raped their women, killed their maato..as qabil.
Mind u Indha'ade came to power in 2002
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Cawar :A single MJ man showed up less than 2 yrs ago..surrounded by hawiye..and he is responsible for any of this??
Cawar AbdiWahab252 and his likes need to think outside the box for once.
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Shirib I don't understand why day and night you continue to defend the people who have for the last 18 years being raping your women and killing you men like animals.
What has HG done for you horta have you asked yourself that?
Love the Somali saying Toqa bar Toqa. HG rule over the South has come to an end.This war is one you surely can not win.
What has HG done for you horta have you asked yourself that?
Love the Somali saying Toqa bar Toqa. HG rule over the South has come to an end.This war is one you surely can not win.
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Shirib wrote:Men responsible for that ARE IN THE TFG!!!!Cawar wrote:Because unlike HG..Mjs never attacked any clan and or raped their women, killed their maato..as qabil.
Mind u Indha'ade came to power in 2002
Shirib, you are young and naive..sorry to say this..but its true.
Regardless of where your heart lies..you need to think with your mind.
I hear you keep saying day and night..the problem is all from Mudug..burn mudug..mudug that..
Fine, I agree with you on that premise...but if we really anlayze things in detail..the only real dhibaato that came to you or to most of somali ppl in the last 18 yrs came from HG
Now..tell me I am wrong and prove me wrong..if you can..but thats just the fact.
MJs with all their siyasad, faan, love of power and whatever other thing you and others might attribute to them..never set out a foot from mudug advocating for violence, attacking a qabil, calling for somalia's distruction etc etc..
If AY is part of this TFG..along with other warlords, qabil elders, businessmen and even tuugo..then he could be held responsible and should..but what AW is saying is basically spreading lies and covering his own failures..
Its time he owned his failures..though I believe most of the intellectuals in their clan have started working toward a peaceful somalia, in which they are part of ..
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
Waryaa Cawarow,Cawar wrote: Its time he owned his failures..though I believe most of the intellectuals in their clan have started working toward a peaceful somalia, in which they are part of ..
Why dont you do the same, instead of defending AFBIIJO. SXb, I can guaranteed to you, by defending him, you will gain DAMBI.
Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
xidigow wrote:Waryaa Cawarow,Cawar wrote: Its time he owned his failures..though I believe most of the intellectuals in their clan have started working toward a peaceful somalia, in which they are part of ..
Why dont you do the same, instead of defending AFBIIJO. SXb, I can guaranteed to you, by defending him, you will gain DAMBI.
I am not defending him at all sxb.
I just dont like/oppose 2 things..
1) lumpimg him with all his qabil . while every one i involved in this mess.
2)AW's lies by making this a one qabil against all somali issue.. when his only priority is to benefit from the chaos.
But, do you disagree with what I said about ina A/Salaam???
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Re: Bangladesh May Lead International Force To Somalia!!!
These facts should do you justice sxb:Shirib wrote:The TFG warlords must be hung for their crimes that they have been commiting against the Somali people since 1991
By the way the TFG has slowly disarmed the warlords; the last to go was Mohamed Dheere. The fact is with a government we can correct our mistakes but with Al-shabaab we can expect more division such as the Asmara group, the Djibouti group, and the Al-shabaab group...and there are even further reports of division with in the Al-shabaab group: the Abuu Mansoor wing, the Caweys gar-cilaanle wing, and Hassan Turki wing. What is all this division if as they say their fighting in the name of Islam since Islam is uniting factor? Self explanatory really, this was an ICU propaganda of religious war in the first place and never about Islam.Another success of the pro-ICU media was in dehumanizing the groups inside the TFG which mostly came from a warlord background. During the last 17 years, because of the clan wars in the country since the fall of Siad Barre in 1991, it is common knowledge that each clan community had its own protector or guardian that was armed and trained. Therefore, warlords and their militias were a defensive mechanism, a shield for each clan community in Somalia. We have seen such natural tendencies all around the world historically. But when the pro-ICU media and their supporters transformed warlord into an insult and dehumanizing word, it helped shape up an anti-TFG western view, particularly among the human rights activists and the American congressmen who wanted hard to change the Bush administration's support for TFG. So these tactics influenced both Somalis and the international community against the TFG and Ethiopia.
It is important to note that the ICU's military leadership also was represented by rival warlords but this was always ignored by the media.
Shirib,
I really don't blame you for your ignorance, the media is to blame:
During the last 17 years of chaos in Somalia, one thing that has flourished in Somalia was the private media. It has been a perfect "free" market, with each community and clans having various media outlets, they added fuel to the long civil war. Lacking government regulation, only America's Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bankrupt financial institutions have rampaged more inside an uncontrolled free market. The anarchy inside Somalia was mostly based on clan or sub-clan wars, and as expected the private media in Somalia was the exact replica of the clan arrangements and divisions. Just like each clan had its own militias and warlords, they also each had a media outlet or more. With the Hawiye clan dominating the politics in Mogadishu, it was typical that most of the media was owned by them in the area, particularly by the Habar Gidir sub-clan of the region. And since the ICU leader Sheik Aweys is from the Habar Gidir clan, as are most of the ICU fighters and supporters, the media superiority of the pro-ICU Habar Gidir of the Hawiye clan was multiplied exponentially, one example being Shabelle Media Network and co who have very significant audience on the ground in Mogadishu and surroundings. For this reason, the anti-TFG and anti-Ethiopia propaganda by these media outlets began since day one, with allegations of Ethiopian soldiers raping Somali women and TFG soldiers robbing businesses.
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