Al Shabab Spokesman denies any links with Sheikh Atom

[grandpakhalif]

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[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Something smells fishy here. Why would shaytan dheere reject someone who wants to male their group to expand on new territories?

Whats more strange is that fuad shongole rejoices to hear about the war in buuqland and told the mogadishians that punani will be captured.

This shows us that there is no unity amongst the murtaddeen in alshabab.

[LobsterUnit]

Well, Atam never said he was part of them as a group per se. His words were misinterpreted and taking out of context by the Puntland Brigade.


@hutu, no group would say someone who isn't officially part of their group is part and parcel of their movement. That just doesn't make sense. It's all about politics in this case. Let's say you create a group called ALHUTUmoryans. Imagine if someone else claims the group and you don't say nothing. What's to stop so many other people claiming it and doing things which are contrary to your groups policy. Their has to be some kind of official way to join the group. This is how many groups are infiltrated. Remember the ICU and so many groups before it and how every tom, ceeb and harry used to join or speak as a spokesman? This is what differentiates shababs and why they have managed to survive in the dirty terrain of SOmalia( keeping a close lid on who joins their group and acts on behalf of it).

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

^Use your brains for once.

Sh.Atam wants shariahlaw from khawaarij perspective and he doesnt recognize any other flag except the black alshababflag. Also he said that his thinking/stance is the same as other alshababists.
So that makes him clear an member of that group.

Hogaamiyaha dagaalka la galay maamul goboleedka Puntland Sheekh Maxa’ed Siciid Atom ayaa markii ugu horeysay sheegay in iyaga iyo shabaabul mujahidiin ay ka mideysanyihiin mabda’a ah in soomaliya laga hir galiyo shareecada Islaamka

hornafrik

Hadalka Al Shabaab ayaa imaanaya xili hogaamiyaha kooxaha dagaalada kula jira Maamulka Puntland ee lagu magacaabo Max’ed Saciid Atam uu sheegay in uu ku mowqif yahay Xarakada Mujaahidiinta Al Shabaab xili uu la hadlayay qaar ka mid ah taageerayaashiisa, waxaana goobaha ay ku suganyihiin Ciidamadiisa lagu arkay Calanka Madow ee AL Shabaab.

shabelle

Unless he says that he is member of xisbul islam i dont see why shaytan dheere is throwing him away from the group.

[LobsterUnit]

My brains are working. Yours cleary are not. The problem is that you analyse politics with emotion, which evidently leads to most of your claims becoming bogus.

Atam clearly subscribes to the same ideology as alshabab, although his larger political plans are unclear at this stage. Having said that, it would not make sense for them to claim him as part and parcel of his group. There are two reasons for this:

1. He clearly is not a a member of their organisation
2. Even if he is commited to the same goals as them, he is still independent of their control and any future action he undertakes could be seen as sanctioned by alshabab. For example, if atom makes a peace with farole or surrenders his goals after some time, alshabab's enemies could use this as an example of islamists surrendering or alshabab being defeated by pl forces. So there are no real incentives to claim him as their man. In fact, it would make the locals more suspicious and it is better for alshabab if this is seen as a local uprising. it discreditsa ny claims of a southern, hawiye or shab invasion of pl from the south.

the art of politics, my friend.

[abdalla11]

Just like many Snet forumers Sheikh Atam is a sheegato!

[Cirwaaq]

Mrs Atom has been divorced for a good reason. Claiming the Makhar agenda as al-shabab's is akin to an invasion. This would warrant funds and support from the international community perhabs even troops from AU being sent to Gerowe to protect Faruurey. Al-shab'sb do not wish to preempt a response in the puntland front that would end their advance and seriously cut fo their only escape route out of Koonfur when the AU reach their 20,000 troop goal.

Secondly there is greater political sense to allow for both the terrorist groups in Makhar and SSC to appear as local groups in a local struggle, it prevents the international community labeling with their true terrorist organisation status. There is no gain for them to align with these groups who are a disadvantage at this stage. Beside the locals are more likely to support a local agenda more then the global terror network that is al-shabab. The locals can continue to support their local agenda until such time as the al-shabab require an exist strategy out of koonfur, they cannot head into kenya, ethiopia mor the indian ocean. Their only escape route is north into makhar and ssc. They do not want to engage both P.land and s.land at the same time this is not productive and will result in a loss.



Alternatively they could be saying we do not associate with Snakes

[udun]

Someone's hatred, envy, and loyalties is for all to see. Off course I am refering to the Jahuud lady who is married to a Jahuud man and carries the Israhel's flag as an avatar.

[Shirib]

The fighting in Kismaayo started as some local sheiks fighting with Hiiraale, and then later Shabaab, Kambooni, etc. joined. So I wouldn't be surprised that later on if Ataam joins Shabaab officially and they join the fight.

But right now its Ataam vs. PL. Shabaab is not present

[Niya]

Atam is al-shabab, he said it. The spokesman is only trying to convey that Hawiye and Digil & Mirifle are not involved, which is b.s. Atam has been supplying weapons to the shabab and in turn, supporters disguised as idps have been coming to Puntland in droves to creat chaos in a peaceful region.

Just the other day, this guy who was caught buring a mine on the road, claimed that he was from a northern tribe, but the dialect and his inability the do abtirsinyo or name any relatives gave him away. Guess where he was from or who he was? He was D&M.

[subeir123]

Atam vs maamulka majeerteniya

[Cirwaaq]

Atam is al-shabab, he said it. The spokesman is only trying to convey that Hawiye and Digil & Mirifle are not involved, which is b.s. Atam has been supplying weapons to the shabab and in turn, supporters disguised as idps have been coming to Puntland in droves to creat chaos in a peaceful region.

Just the other day, this guy who was caught buring a mine on the road, claimed that he was from a northern tribe, but the dialect and his inability the do abtirsinyo or name any relatives gave him away. Guess where he was from or who he was? He was D&M.

LOL

D&M wouldn't never be sent on a mission when he can easily be caught when they are plenthy HG, Abgaal, marehaan or Ogadeens who can easily penetrate punanistan to cause damage.

Propaganda to coverup your xenophopic Jareeristan

Picking on poor somalis who are hardworking and simply wish to escape the war in Koonfur, You are good at that. xenophopia made you deport the Galla, the Dir, the Marehaans, the Midgaans, push the warsans into sanaag out of bari, push the dhuloyin out of Nugal into sool, push the hawiye out of Mudug.

[grandpakhalif]

D&M are my Somali brothers to hell with your propaganda

[udun]

Atam is al-shabab, he said it. The spokesman is only trying to convey that Hawiye and Digil & Mirifle are not involved, which is b.s. Atam has been supplying weapons to the shabab and in turn, supporters disguised as idps have been coming to Puntland in droves to creat chaos in a peaceful region.

Just the other day, this guy who was caught buring a mine on the road, claimed that he was from a northern tribe, but the dialect and his inability the do abtirsinyo or name any relatives gave him away. Guess where he was from or who he was? He was D&M.

LOL

D&M wouldn't never be sent on a mission when he can easily be caught when they are plenthy HG, Abgaal, marehaan or Ogadeens who can easily penetrate punanistan to cause damage.

Propaganda to coverup your xenophopic Jareeristan

Picking on poor somalis who are hardworking and simply wish to escape the war in Koonfur, You are good at that. xenophopia made you deport the Galla, the Dir, the Marehaans, the Midgaans, push the warsans into sanaag out of bari, push the dhuloyin out of Nugal into sool, push the hawiye out of Mudug.

Ok now one is adding her clan name, Galla, to the list. Little by littel things are coming out of the closet. Now, the spin is PL is hurting D&M communities? Go to hell your Mossad agent who is trying to throw discord among the Somalis.

[Cirwaaq]

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