Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
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Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
Is it permissible for me to say to non-Muslims “And the same to you” when they wish me a Happy New Year or say Best Wishes?.
Praise be to Allaah.
It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas, New Year or any of their other holidays, and it is not permissible to respond to them when they greet us on those occasions, because they are not festivals that are prescribed in our religion, and returning their greeting is an affirmation and approval of them. The Muslim should be proud of his religion and its rulings, and he should be keen to call others and convey to them the religion of Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on greeting the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas and how we should respond when they greet us on this occasion. Is it permissible to go to the parties that they hold on this occasion?
Is a person sinning if he does any of the things mentioned without intending to, and he only does it to be nice, or because of or shyness or embarrassment or other reasons? Is it permissible to imitate them in that?
He replied:
Greeting the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas or any of their other religious holidays is haraam according to scholarly consensus, as was stated by Ibn al-Qayyim in his book Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah, where he says:
"Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying ‘A happy festival to you’ or ‘May you enjoy your festival,’ and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bid’ah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah." End quote.
Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not accept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. .
[al-Zumar 39:7]
". . .
This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . .
[al-Maa’idah 5:3]
So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are one’s colleagues at work or otherwise.
If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers."
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]
It is haraam for a Muslim to accept invitations on such occasions, because this is worse than congratulating them as it implies taking part in their celebrations.
Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, or taking time off work, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said in his book Iqtidaa’ al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem Mukhaalifat Ashaab al-Jaheem: "Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak
End quote from Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 3/44.
And Allaah knows best.
Alhamdulilah truth is removed from falsehood.
Its not allowed for us to congratulate them on their festivals and neither to celebrate with them.
I havent seen a single disbeliever congratulating us on the two eids, also they dont celebrate with us during islamic year.
Praise be to Allaah.
It is not permissible to greet or congratulate the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas, New Year or any of their other holidays, and it is not permissible to respond to them when they greet us on those occasions, because they are not festivals that are prescribed in our religion, and returning their greeting is an affirmation and approval of them. The Muslim should be proud of his religion and its rulings, and he should be keen to call others and convey to them the religion of Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on greeting the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas and how we should respond when they greet us on this occasion. Is it permissible to go to the parties that they hold on this occasion?
Is a person sinning if he does any of the things mentioned without intending to, and he only does it to be nice, or because of or shyness or embarrassment or other reasons? Is it permissible to imitate them in that?
He replied:
Greeting the kuffaar on the occasion of Christmas or any of their other religious holidays is haraam according to scholarly consensus, as was stated by Ibn al-Qayyim in his book Ahkaam Ahl al-Dhimmah, where he says:
"Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying ‘A happy festival to you’ or ‘May you enjoy your festival,’ and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on. Many of those who have no respect for their religion fall into this error; they do not realize the offensiveness of their actions. Whoever congratulates a person for his disobedience or bid’ah or kufr exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah." End quote.
Congratulating the kuffaar on their religious festivals is haraam to the extent described by Ibn al-Qayyim because it implies that one accepts or approves of their rituals of kufr, even if one would not accept those things for oneself. But the Muslim should not accept the rituals of kufr or congratulate anyone else for them, because Allaah does not accept any of that at all, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
"If you disbelieve, then verily, Allaah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. .
[al-Zumar 39:7]
". . .
This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion . .
[al-Maa’idah 5:3]
So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are one’s colleagues at work or otherwise.
If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to Allaah. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islaam, with which Allaah sent Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to the whole of mankind. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
"Whoever seeks a religion other than Islaam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers."
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]
It is haraam for a Muslim to accept invitations on such occasions, because this is worse than congratulating them as it implies taking part in their celebrations.
Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, or taking time off work, etc., because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said in his book Iqtidaa’ al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem Mukhaalifat Ashaab al-Jaheem: "Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak
End quote from Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 3/44.
And Allaah knows best.
Alhamdulilah truth is removed from falsehood.
Its not allowed for us to congratulate them on their festivals and neither to celebrate with them.
I havent seen a single disbeliever congratulating us on the two eids, also they dont celebrate with us during islamic year.
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
i just wish if that's all our issues. we simply stop it. ooh just i wish if was that simple!
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
Thanks for the info
Amma just reply to them in this manour
"Body language everybody speaks it"
Amma just reply to them in this manour
"Body language everybody speaks it"
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
As soon as i saw, 'Sheikh Uthaymeen' i stopped reading
Won't take information about the deen from a mujassimah , one who likens Allah to bani adam.
Won't take information about the deen from a mujassimah , one who likens Allah to bani adam.
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
Also saying "wa aleyka" when a kafir greets you can be used to reply against the wishes of happy new year.Thuganomics wrote:Thanks for the info![]()
Amma just reply to them in this manour![]()
"Body language everybody speaks it"
For he could say: I wish you a deadly/terrible or evil new year. In that case wa aleyka would backfire at the disbeliever

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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
AbuukarSubeer wrote:As soon as i saw, 'Sheikh Uthaymeen' i stopped reading
Won't take information about the deen from a mujassimah , one who likens Allah to bani adam.
Maybe u prefer Sheikh Benedict Ratzinger above Uthaymeen

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Who the hell is that?
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
hutking your living kuffur country. and internet also is own and invented by kuffur. and your mobile phones also is made by kuffur so why dont you let kuufurrs along...
and we all other gaalo loving skinnies HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND TO ME
and we all other gaalo loving skinnies HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND TO ME

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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
this fifa playing kid is really getting annoying know - not to mention he keeps repeating his bogus.
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
Waryee cumorow hadaad rabta evidence, i'll start with the least.
IMO, anyone who interprets hadiths like this, is someone not to follow
Question: Is Running/jogging (al-Harwala) amongst the Sift of Allah?
Uthaymeen answers: Yes! as it has been mentioned in the Hadith al-Qudsi al-Shareef ..."and if my servant comes to Me walking, I go to him running." Narrated by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
In the Aqeeda section of his fatawa, page 112
He says Allah runs, and don't say Allah does, wal ciyaadu billah min hada, Some ayahs are metaphorical, and some are simple and clear, same with the qur'an, there are simple ayahs, and there are mutashaabih ayahs.
In all and all, that is not the correct interpretation. and that is a interpretation of a mujassam.
IMO, anyone who interprets hadiths like this, is someone not to follow
Question: Is Running/jogging (al-Harwala) amongst the Sift of Allah?
Uthaymeen answers: Yes! as it has been mentioned in the Hadith al-Qudsi al-Shareef ..."and if my servant comes to Me walking, I go to him running." Narrated by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
In the Aqeeda section of his fatawa, page 112
He says Allah runs, and don't say Allah does, wal ciyaadu billah min hada, Some ayahs are metaphorical, and some are simple and clear, same with the qur'an, there are simple ayahs, and there are mutashaabih ayahs.
In all and all, that is not the correct interpretation. and that is a interpretation of a mujassam.
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AbuukarSubeer wrote:Who the hell is that?
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I got the benidict part, but the restThuganomics wrote:AbuukarSubeer wrote:Who the hell is that?![]()
The Pope dee
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
r we allowd 2 keep the gifs frm their festvals tho? thas wat i rlly wanna kno
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Re: Congratulating kuffar on their festivals
Hutuking your A hater... i dont understand people who gave you welcome to in their countres Gaalo countres, they did all good things for you and still you hate them so much you wont congratulate them the new year .... HATER 
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He was a member of The Hitler Youth Deutsches JungvolkAbuukarSubeer wrote:I got the benidict part, but the restThuganomics wrote:AbuukarSubeer wrote:Who the hell is that?![]()
The Pope dee
, i read somewhere that the current pope was a former Nazi.
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