How did the caliphate disappear?

[ZubeirAwal]

Ama han buuqo, ama an isku xaaro, you know what i said was the truth, the qur'an is my guidebook, and it is tibiyan li kulli shay.

Shirib i know the ottomans were not the best caliphs, but that doesn't give an excuse to what ibn Saud did, signed a paper which led him to become subservient to the kuffar is what allah said fa innahu minhum.

You can choose to ignore this or accept it, it is xaqq and hedaya, i've done my part and i warned you folks, if you choose to defend him even after i showed you proofs, you will answer to Allah in judgement day.


Cumar, mad waxad moodaysa inan jecelyahay noolasha halkan magaalada london? wallahi hadan heelo 1 chance meeshan wan ka tagaya , xatta tuulo ba iga daran dunyadan shaydaanka meelwalba dul maraya.

[ZubeirAwal]

“Proofs have now come to you from your Lord. If any is capable of seeing (and recognizing
them) it will be for (the good of) his own soul. And if any is blind (to them) it will be to his
own harm. And I am not here to watch over you.”

In this case, you are being blind to the proof provided which is the truth. Weeeeeey 7akum.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

so why do you play fifa? it was created by the 'kufaar' and their evils. Or by playing and winning matches you doing cibaadah

[Based]

Abuukar, you need to chill the fuck out and smoke a blunt or something.

Kids your age back home aint doing shit but making more kids, and you're in the West with every opportunity in the world to make something of yourself.

Caadi iska dhig.

[Shirib]

Shirib i know the ottomans were not the best caliphs, but that doesn't give an excuse to what ibn Saud did, signed a paper which led him to become subservient to the kuffar is what allah said fa innahu minhum.

You can choose to ignore this or accept it, it is xaqq and hedaya, i've done my part and i warned you folks, if you choose to defend him even after i showed you proofs, you will answer to Allah in judgement day.

You haven't shown proof or presented anything. The Sheiks video is historically inaccurate on a major issue.

The Ottoman caliph were no more when the revolt happened. The Young Turks were in charge when the Arab revolt began. After the loss in the Turko-Russian war, the Ottomans adopted a new constitution. Sharia was no more, rather a constitution was adopted like a modern Republic. By 1908 the Young Turks had taken over the country and there wasn't a single trace of Khilafa left. The Young Turks were all nationalists, not for an ummah or diin, but only for Turkish Nationalism. They killed hundreds of thousands of Armenians. There was no khilafa, unless you are referring to the Young Turks as the Caliph's and leaders of the Ummah.

If you want to make the case that the Shariif of Makkah and Al Saud shouldn't have made an agreement with the British to fight the Ottomans that's one case. But to make the statement that the Arab revolt destroyed the khilafa is an absolute lie. The Young Turks destroyed the Khilafa!

The Arabs simply responded to Turkish nationalism.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

yeah abubacary chill out and show us your sufi breakdance

[grandpakhalif]

so why do you play fifa? it was created by the 'kufaar' and their evils. Or by playing and winning matches you doing cibaadah

[ZubeirAwal]

Cumar entertainment is not the subject, it does not go against the shari'ah nor does it make halal what allah made haram and vice versa;

Based, i am not like kids my age, i feel humiliated and i feel rage every time i see a saudi king or prince, they turned their backs to Allah and his prophet, they turned away from haqq and hedaya, and they will meet a painful consequence.

The arabs danced to the tune of the pipe piper of laurence the arabia, if you are asking for proofs here are the proofs, this is the second time you dismiss evidence as false, not too long ago you regarded a hadith with a good silsila and which is authentic, verified by ibn kathir, and ibn hajar, and it is in fathxul bari. I am not suprised.

When war was declared between Britain and Turkey, the British Secretary of State for War, Lord Kitchener, appealed to Hussein for assistance in the conflict. He flirted with the concept of an 'Arab nation' and offered political recognition in return for assurances of assistance.

Hussein angled for a large Arab Kingdom and, after protracted negotiations, started the Revolt. His four sons Ali, Abdullah, Feisal and Zeid, played important roles as field commanders throughout the war.

Marshall Cavendish Corporation. History of World War I, Volume 1. Marshall Cavendish Corporation, 2002. Pp. 255

Even if the turks did what they did, as a muslim you never dance to the tune of the kuffar, it is a deceptive seductive trap that has huge consequences.

In 1914, before the war, Ibn Saud allied himself with the Turks, agreeing that he should have relations with no other foreign power and be committed to joining Turkish forces in resisting any aggression. When war came Saud opted for neutrality and kept his options open. Then he allied himself with the British, who offered recognition of the middle of the Arabian Peninsula (namely the Nejd and Hasa) as his and that of his father before him and his descendants after him -- with the proviso that he and his heirs not be antagonistic toward Britain. Ibn Saud agreed not to enter into relations with another foreign power and promised to come to the aid of Ibn Saud should he be the victim of aggression. Britain lent Ibn Saud £20,000, 1,000 weapons and 200,000 rounds of ammunition. Added to this was a subsidy of £5,000 per month.

source; ibn Saud: Founder of a Kingdom, by Leslie McLouglin, St. Martin's Press, 1993.
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, by David E. Long, University of Florida Press, 1997.

I wont be suprised if you dismissed this as false also, after all, you'll move a mountain to defend this betrayer.


The young turks destoryed the khilafah in 1924 , a attempt was made to return the khilafah in qahirah, masr, it was rivaled by a kuffar backed conference in hajj started by ibn saud which led in shambles.

Point is, the saudis will put their neck on the line to not let the khilafah to return, they chose the luxury life of wealth instead of the akhirah, this is not the way of islam, and you know it!

[Cumar-Labasuul]

oh so you know where they will end up know

[ZubeirAwal]

Allahu a3lam but the actions such as that have great sins in them, Allahu a3lam akhi but if they die in that state, i'm rationale enough to know that such a man would not deserve Allah's jannah, a kingdom who are fighting to throw away the sunnah instead of restoring it.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

who knows you could end up in hell so stop judging others and think about your own self

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Young Sufi Warlock, avoid Hatred it leads to corruption of the soul. Corruption of the soul leads to Astray, and every going astray is in fire.

[Shirib]

Abuukar

The Young Turks destroyed the khilafa in 1908. King Mehmed was nothing more than a figure head by that time, and the empire was run by the 3 Pasha's. The Arab's did revolt, but it wasn't against a khilafa as the caliphate was already done, there was no power. The Young Turks were running the Ottoman empire. Unless the 3 Pasha's and the Young Turks, is who you refer to as the Khilafa, the Arabs didn't fight a khilafa. They revolted against the Young Turks, who were Turkish nationalists.

If you want to say that it was haraam, for the Arabs to use the British to revolt against the Ottomans, that is a different case. But stop saying the Arabs destroyed the khilafa. They didn't. That was already done, by the Young Turks. Khilafa was in decline after the Turko-Russian war, and in 1908 the Young Turks run by the 3 Pasha's were in complete control of the Empire. There was no Khilafa.

This is what happened, unless of course you are suggesting that the Young Turks were the khilafa since they ran the Ottoman Empire, then in that case, the Arabs fought the khilafa and kicked them out of the hijjaz.

Read up on Ottoman history, the notion that there was a khaliif running the show isn't accurate. Mehmed V had no power. He was nothing more than figure head and was at the complete mercy of the Young Turks.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Young Sufi Warlock, avoid Hatred it leads to corruption of the soul. Corruption of the soul leads to Astray, and every going astray is in fire.

[grandpakhalif]

Young Sufi Warlock, avoid Hatred it leads to corruption of the soul. Corruption of the soul leads to Astray, and every going astray is in fire.

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