picture of the day Italian youth exploring Somalia 1969

[Tanker]

[original dervish]

I've seen those pics somewhere.
They were south of mog....all the way to Kismayo and bajun islands.

[Grant]

Before the Kacaan?

[Basra-]

Before the Kacaan?

obtuse.

[Grant]

No. Legitimate question. Would such visitors have been in southern Somalia after the Kacaan? I know Americans were not welcome. The PC Volunteers had only a few days to get out of the country.

[HusseinHassan]

No. Legitimate question. Would such visitors have been in southern Somalia after the Kacaan? I know Americans were not welcome. The PC Volunteers had only a few days to get out of the country.

the precise reason the west toppled the kacaan; the kacaan prevented you guys from coming in and going out freely.
the kacaan prevented the west to steal the natural resources of somalia.
21 years of kacaan rule and not a single hole was drilled in somalia to extract the natural resources, other than water.

[Grant]

No. Legitimate question. Would such visitors have been in southern Somalia after the Kacaan? I know Americans were not welcome. The PC Volunteers had only a few days to get out of the country.

the precise reason the west toppled the kacaan; the kacaan prevented you guys from coming in and going out freely.
the kacaan prevented the west to steal the natural resources of somalia.
21 years of kacaan rule and not a single hole was drilled in somalia to extract the natural resources, other than water.

My understanding of the situation is that the Somali Government gave up assistance from a variety of sources to pursue a socialist agenda as the exclusive client of the Soviet Union. When the Derg gained control in Ethiopia, Russia changed sides, the SNA attacked and Somaliweyn disappeared at the Marda pass and Jigjiga. Talk to Luis 1. After that arose the mighty days of the Red Berets, and clans other than the MR came to fear the government and arranged their own protection. It was a coallition of warlords that drove MSB to the toilet in Nigeria, not the West.

FYI: as of 1969 the US was under the impression Somalia had a little oil, a little more gas, but not a lot, and some uranium. They were counting on bananas in the south and livestock in the north for commercial export. What interested the US was the same thing that interested the Russians, the location on the Gulf of Aden at the mouth of the Red Sea. It was a prime location for a port and bases during the Cold War.

[HusseinHassan]

My understanding of the situation is that the Somali Government gave up assistance from a variety of sources to pursue a socialist agenda as the exclusive client of the Soviet Union. When the Derg gained control in Ethiopia, Russia changed sides, the SNA attacked and Somaliweyn disappeared at the Marda pass and Jigjiga. Talk to Luis 1. After that arose the mighty days of the Red Berets, and clans other than the MR came to fear the government and arranged their own protection. It was a coallition of warlords that drove MSB to the toilet in Nigeria, not the West.

FYI: as of 1969 the US was under the impression Somalia had a little oil, a little more gas, but not a lot, and some uranium. They were counting on bananas in the south and livestock in the north for commercial export. What interested the US was the same thing that interested the Russians, the location on the Gulf of Aden at the mouth of the Red Sea. It was a prime location for a port and bases during the Cold War.

your hatred for siad barre is not surprising.
if i was a white agent, send to infiltrate somalia, only to be prevented or be under the surveillance of the kacaan, i'd hate siad barre too.

[Grant]

I taught ESL at a little school in Jiliib. I left in 1967 and I never knew MSB.

Hate is much too strong a word. I just think he made some very bad decisions.

[XimanJaale]

My understanding of the situation is that the Somali Government gave up assistance from a variety of sources to pursue a socialist agenda as the exclusive client of the Soviet Union. When the Derg gained control in Ethiopia, Russia changed sides, the SNA attacked and Somaliweyn disappeared at the Marda pass and Jigjiga. Talk to Luis 1. After that arose the mighty days of the Red Berets, and clans other than the MR came to fear the government and arranged their own protection. It was a coallition of warlords that drove MSB to the toilet in Nigeria, not the West.

FYI: as of 1969 the US was under the impression Somalia had a little oil, a little more gas, but not a lot, and some uranium. They were counting on bananas in the south and livestock in the north for commercial export. What interested the US was the same thing that interested the Russians, the location on the Gulf of Aden at the mouth of the Red Sea. It was a prime location for a port and bases during the Cold War.

your hatred for siad barre is not surprising.
if i was a white agent, send to infiltrate somalia, only to be prevented or be under the surveillance of the kacaan, i'd hate siad barre too.

Grant was always anti-Siyaad Barre. Nothing new

[Tanker]

Before the Kacaan?

The kids in the picture is italian-somalis who was born and grew up in Somalia, The Kacaan nationalizing Italian owned farms in the 1970s drew the italian community out of Somalia.

[Grant]

I suspected something like that. Many of the banana farms between Kismayu and Jilib had already changed hands when I was there. The Italian store on the outskirts of Kismayu had largely Somali customers. The only Italians I saw were a nun and a doctor at the Leprosarium across the river from Jilib.

[Thuganomics]

. It was a coallition of warlords that drove MSB to the toilet in Nigeria

[Tanker]

long gone is the days when the Italian community in Somalia was 50000 strong the last Italian died recently in Merca at the age of 85

[Hyperactive]

. It was a coallition of warlords that drove MSB to the toilet in Nigeria

no he didn't say it!!!
odeygan wa khatar.lol