Somali atheist from Toronto is anti Palestine

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Listen, if you're sitting in a class and you have one person who is purposefully and intentionally making these charged statements, would you not be offended? I am not offended by the affront on religion, or anything like that - those come constantly and are not worth the anger anymore - but the hateful and baseless claims knowing how many thousands are dying and suffering in a situation out of their control?

If you think that's acceptable and okay to hear, then that's on you. Don't group Somalis together and say that we 'all just treat Somali atheists like shit'.

None of my gaal friends are obnoxious enough to call for violence on the innocent, so why should it be especially be okay for a Somali, who probably knows very well what's happening over there and the complexities of the issues.



Anyways, I don't need to defend the defense of the innocent. If you guys have people around you saying aggressive things like that, gaal or Somali atheist, and it's fine with you... then what can I tell you that you don't already know. lol

Lol Evol this nigga is probably seeking attention or perhaps he really is Pro Israel. Either way he's just some Toronto Hawiye, his opinion doesn't mean shit. So there's no reason at all why we should have a thread over sum random hutus opinion.

Let's be real evol the somali community ostracizes and shuns Somali atheists. Dont lie to yourself. I have gaalo and atheist friends, so it would feel very hypocritical if I out casted Somali atheists. I talk to them and treat them the same way I do with normal gaalo ppl. Talk about sports and random shit like that but I never bring up religious shit.

[ZubeirAwal]

calm down sxb, house negro-canadian can keep his views, I don't have to agree with them, I'm a human sxb I can't do one roast, aight aight astaghfirullah it is unlike me to roast people for their beliefs and opinions, that was my ego reacting earlier.

[EvolSyawla]

MA NIGGA. Why are you always attacking Hawiye lol, I thought you stopped with that. However you're right, no need to give a random attention whore the attention he is clearly dying for.

And yes, unfortunately a lot of Somalis are very offended with apostasy, enough to treat gaals with a modicum of respect but spit in the face of a Somali Muslim turned atheist - if they don't literally spit. So I get what you mean.

The general difference I was trying to make is that there are many Ex Muslims, Somalis included, who go on the offensive once they leave Islam. As if they are now on a crusade against Islam.

Do what you like and be who you like, Walahi I don't give a ____. Just don't go around intentionally sparking hatred, causing offense and disrespect. What is the point? It does him no good nor those he is trying to hurt. You are wise enough to not bring up religion knowing the conversation that would naturally occur, and that is very fair of you. But you know damn well most people don't care about fairness or respect.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

nigga looks like a silverback gorilla

So because he's darker than you, he's a gorilla? He doesn't look like one btw, he looks like the average Somali. I like how you conveniently left your usual pompous, sufi, holier-than-thou false piety at the door as soon as your beloved arabs were insulted.

@Evolsyawla, I don't know where you got all that from. All the guy said was he agreed with Canada's decision to vote against palestinian inclusion in the UN treaties. I don't agree with him either and tbh he's probably someone I would despise but I don't see how that's akin to him saying palestinian innocent children should be bombed? Your bringing emotional strawman arguments and putting words he didn't say in his mouth.

A better question would be, what has the palestinian situation got to do with you and him both as somali canadians? You aren't arabs nor are you israelis. Why would you get so emotional as a non-palestinian person to the point where you would attack another somali because he or she doesn't agree with you? If it's a question of faith, then you should know that not all palestinians are muslim. Also there are muslims all around the world better deserving of your attention since they don't have the same monopoly of media attention and universal empathy the arab world has - including your fellow Somalis who are probably on average in a worse position than the average Gazan.

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True evol your right a good amount of ex Muslims do that crusade against islam shit. Their actions cost other ex Muslims the respect and acceptance they want from their Muslim family, friends and community. Sort of reminds me of how extremist terrorists are making it harder and harder for us Muslims to live in the West.

Idk that twitter nigga like I said I don't give a single fuck.about his opinion. People always do this typa shit and the worst thing you can do is give them attention or make them feel validated for their shitty opinions.

[LilEmperor]

Zuber wallahi u a hypocrite ass nigga. Just cuz this nigga doesn't share the same beleifs and views as you ur gnna roast his ass? I thought you was a religious nigga. Would the prophet saws approve of what ur doing. Seriously fuck u somalis u guys are animals wallahi including the niggas that act religious n shit

Zubier ciyaal waaye nooh, how old is he still 19?

[EvolSyawla]

LH, I was referring to AJ in passing, but mostly to MailMan's story my dear.

If any one were to say something as stupid as "Somalis are humiliating themselves and should cease to exist" (the sentiments I use to fight against very strongly here on this forum) I would react, because how can one even consider the destruction of millions of internally displaced people, many who are emaciated and need our help. I constantly advocate for Somalis to return home and start working here to build our (insert every industry sector) so that maybe our children can live in the Somalia that our b.s governments won't provide.

It isn't a 'better question'. As a human, if you heard someone say all ___ should be killed when maybe only 10% are the ones who are violent, you would laugh in the back row because they are not Somali?


Fade, exactly. It works (and works against ) both ways.

[LilEmperor]

Evol such a basic betch why don't you say what you really feel. Stop camouflaging your words, you know you want me.

My response is yes, I'll be glad to take you out on a date.

[TheMailMan]

Lol Evol this nigga is probably seeking attention or perhaps he really is Pro Israel. Either way he's just some Toronto Hawiye, his opinion doesn't mean shit. So there's no reason at all why we should have a thread over sum random hutus opinion.

Let's be real evol the somali community ostracizes and shuns Somali atheists. Dont lie to yourself. I have gaalo and atheist friends, so it would feel very hypocritical if I out casted Somali atheists. I talk to them and treat them the same way I do with normal gaalo ppl. Talk about sports and random shit like that but I never bring up religious shit.

Most Somali Atheists are obnoxious, upfront people. In fact, most ex-Muslims are stubborn, offensive, and difficult people to deal with. There's a reason why they're ostracized (and rightly so).

I know this one Somali Atheist, and he is this really white-washed guy who keeps his views to himself. He isn't offensive and he just lives his life normally. I have no issue with him. But I know other Somali Atheists who are some of the most difficult and reprehensible people you'll ever meet, some of them even advocating that we ban the hijab or nuke the Arab world. Some of them even openly disparage Somalis and Somalia in front of a group of cadaan people. They make up lies against Islam and the Prophet and they are a very intolerable group of people.

[0sman]

Unstoppable & Evol, I don't want divert your discussion but one thing about ex Muslims that go "crusade against Islam". I agree with you guys that such people exist (and some of them might do it just for the sake of it or some kind of other hatred they were harboring all along) but I believe that most of the ex Muslims that go on such path are because of reaction, being pushed to the point of explosion. What I mean is, we all know that some Muslims make it their responsibility that no one can dare to leave the religion and if they do, they have to be insulted, harassed and even threatened with death etc.

Humans can only have so much tolerance. If you get repeatedly name-called & threatened, don't you think it's just a matter of time before you decide enough is enough and start to fight back? As I said early, I am not saying that all who decide to part ways with religion are nice, decent, reasonable folks. But not everyone has the time, energy, personality & mindset to hate on a belief system still practiced by almost everyone that's related and known to them.

Edit: I almost went "I rest my case" when I read the first paragraph of TheMailMan's above post until I read the second part.

[EvolSyawla]

I agree. Some are petty enough to go on a rampage via twitter, instagram, facebook and whatever other medium they can find.

Some come to Snet.

There are extremely immature religious folks, those who chase after apostasy as if they were personally ordained by Allah. People don't know what live and let live means, and there are grave offenders on both sides.

lol See what happens when you jump to conclusions Osman.

[0sman]

^ Was that last statement just about the point in hand or it has some other (hidden) reference? lol

I agree with you.

[TheMailMan]

nigga looks like a silverback gorilla

So because he's darker than you, he's a gorilla? He doesn't look like one btw, he looks like the average Somali. I like how you conveniently left your usual pompous, sufi, holier-than-thou false piety at the door as soon as your beloved arabs were insulted.

@Evolsyawla, I don't know where you got all that from. All the guy said was he agreed with Canada's decision to vote against palestinian inclusion in the UN treaties. I don't agree with him either and tbh he's probably someone I would despise but I don't see how that's akin to him saying palestinian innocent children should be bombed? Your bringing emotional strawman arguments and putting words he didn't say in his mouth.

A better question would be, what has the palestinian situation got to do with you and him both as somali canadians? You aren't arabs nor are you israelis. Why would you get so emotional as a non-palestinian person to the point where you would attack another somali because he or she doesn't agree with you? If it's a question of faith, then you should know that not all palestinians are muslim. Also there are muslims all around the world better deserving of your attention since they don't have the same monopoly of media attention and universal empathy the arab world has - including your fellow Somalis who are probably on average in a worse position than the average Gazan.

LH there's a huge difference between being indifferent to the Palestinian plight, and actively supporting their oppressors. There's a huge difference and you're very well aware of this. Many nations, Muslim and non-Muslim, have criticized the Israelis and have recognized Palestinian statehood. In fact, many South American countries actually cut off ties to Israel due to their abuse of people in Gaza. This Gazan situation doesn't affect them either, but at the very least they have the compassion and foresight not to side with oppressors.

If you're a Somali and you don't want to donate towards the Palestinian cause, then fine. I don't either, as virtually all my charity goes towards the people of Somalia and Somaliland. But you will never see me degrade these poor Palestinians or ever side with the oppressive Zionist regime that's refusing to give recognition to their Palestinian State.

More than 92% of Palestinians are indeed Muslim, so your mentioning of "not all Palestinians are Muslim" was pretty deceptive. Although technically true, the small numbers of Christian Palestinians are almost inconsequential. And the Zionist regime is occupying Masjid Al Aqsa, which is the 3rd holiest site in Islam.

But if you want to stay indifferent to them, that's totally fine. Stay indifferent. But I do have a major problem with Somalis who go overboard and actually agree with the occupation. Even most Non-Muslim nations have the decency to recognize Palestine.

[LilEmperor]

Evol stop playing *grabs her arm*

[EvolSyawla]

^ Was that last statement just about the point in hand or it has some other (hidden) reference? lol

I agree with you.

Thanks awoowe, and I was referring to your edit with the assuming line. ^__^


MailMan,