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Any I-block family exclusive to Ethiopia

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is there any sub sub clan of beesha who are not located in SL at all but live exclusively in an ethiopian deegaan
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Re: Any I-block family exclusive to Ethiopia

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No every idoor sub clan lives on both side of the border there are several Idoor sub clans though who do not live in Ethiopia the Ciise muse with and Habarjeclo also do not reach much of the Hawd but are there also .
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I don't think so maybe on sub sub sub sub clan level.

Barsuug and some Toljeclo live in Harar, Babille and in the Dir stronghold Shiniile.
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Khalid Ali wrote:No every idoor sub clan lives on both side of the border there are several Idoor sub clans though who do not live in Ethiopia the Ciise muse with and Habarjeclo also do not reach much of the Hawd but are there also .
Habar Jeclo do live in hawd. My own family is originally from hawd
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Don't know about Isse Muse families but their geeljire and thousands of their camels live with us in Hawd.

Actually we have amazing relations.

They milk their camels for us and always give the surplus milk to the local families.

Our families also deliver them stable food since they are mostly kuuray geeljire ah.

The biggest geel are the reer Goolis (isxaaq), Qasiin dabo niriig (isxaaq) is very blessed with camels, Ciise Muuse, Gashaanbuurta (CG), Guyoobe (CG) and the Bah-Daylo (CG).

All of these mix their geel and live in harmony. As a kid I knew all the symbols/tag/logo of every damn geel and their reer.

Great environment to mingle.

Wa sidas.
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Ciise muuse are probably the only isaaqs who have no Deegaan in the occupied territory. Habar Jeclo do live there but not as great as garxajis and Sacad muuse.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:Ciise muuse are probably the only isaaqs who have no Deegaan in the occupied territory. Habar Jeclo do live there but not as great as garxajis and Sacad muuse.
Not all Habar Jeclo live in Hawd, it's only Adan and Dahir that have deegans.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:Ciise muuse are probably the only isaaqs who have no Deegaan in the occupied territory. Habar Jeclo do live there but not as great as garxajis and Sacad muuse.
:comeon: yusuf why dont you respect the borders of our neighbour ethiopia .... dont you want respect shown for somaliland's 100+ years old borders
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BigBreak wrote:
theyuusuf143 wrote:Ciise muuse are probably the only isaaqs who have no Deegaan in the occupied territory. Habar Jeclo do live there but not as great as garxajis and Sacad muuse.
:comeon: yusuf why dont you respect the borders of our neighbour ethiopia .... dont you want respect shown for somaliland's 100+ years old borders
I would have respected the imaginary border, if there is any form of basic human rights there. It's immoral if I respect or support the death trap of my own people. Somaliland sovereignty deserves to be respectful, it's the only place in the horn ay nafta bini,aadamku qiimo la leedahay. Maanta Hadii laba qof bogcad Somaliland kamida isku dilaan dawladoo dhan baa gurmad u tagta sidii oo ay Meeshan masiibo ka dhacday. Ethiopia iyo wadamada geeska badidooda nafta bini, aadamku qiimo saasa kuma laha, boqolaal qof Hadii kurta laga jaro yaga waa u caadi. Meesha noocaasi ma mudna in la xaqdhawro marhadaanay yaguba iinsaan nimada xaqdhawrin.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:
BigBreak wrote:
theyuusuf143 wrote:Ciise muuse are probably the only isaaqs who have no Deegaan in the occupied territory. Habar Jeclo do live there but not as great as garxajis and Sacad muuse.
:comeon: yusuf why dont you respect the borders of our neighbour ethiopia .... dont you want respect shown for somaliland's 100+ years old borders
I would have respected the imaginary border, if there is any form of basic human rights there. It's immoral if I respect or support the death trap of my own people. Somaliland sovereignty deserves to be respectful, it's the only place in the horn ay nafta bini,aadamku qiimo la leedahay. Maanta Hadii laba qof bogcad Somaliland kamida isku dilaan dawladoo dhan baa gurmad u tagta sidii oo ay Meeshan masiibo ka dhacday. Ethiopia iyo wadamada geeska badidooda nafta bini, aadamku qiimo saasa kuma laha, boqolaal qof Hadii kurta laga jaro yaga waa u caadi. Meesha noocaasi ma mudna in la xaqdhawro marhadaanay yaguba iinsaan nimada xaqdhawrin.

well all Isaaq clans (except ciise muusa) are trans-national and crossborders.
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All of Maxamed Abokor clans have deegan in Hawd. Khalid is clueless when it comes to HJ.
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Majority of H-Y sub clans such as Isaxaaq Carre, Muuse Carre, Cali Siciid, Abdalle Ismaaciil and Muuse Ismaacil are transnational and
have deegaans in both sides of the borders. Only my sub clan (Yoonis Ismaaciil) is the only H-Y sub clan that doesn't have deegaan
in Ethiopia.
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hangool79 wrote:
theyuusuf143 wrote:
BigBreak wrote:
:comeon: yusuf why dont you respect the borders of our neighbour ethiopia .... dont you want respect shown for somaliland's 100+ years old borders
I would have respected the imaginary border, if there is any form of basic human rights there. It's immoral if I respect or support the death trap of my own people. Somaliland sovereignty deserves to be respectful, it's the only place in the horn ay nafta bini,aadamku qiimo la leedahay. Maanta Hadii laba qof bogcad Somaliland kamida isku dilaan dawladoo dhan baa gurmad u tagta sidii oo ay Meeshan masiibo ka dhacday. Ethiopia iyo wadamada geeska badidooda nafta bini, aadamku qiimo saasa kuma laha, boqolaal qof Hadii kurta laga jaro yaga waa u caadi. Meesha noocaasi ma mudna in la xaqdhawro marhadaanay yaguba iinsaan nimada xaqdhawrin.

well all Isaaq clans (except ciise muusa) are trans-national and crossborders.
And Muuse Abokor too. But Reer Yoonis are already expanding and should be in Hawd in the near future.
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Xiis1928 wrote:
hangool79 wrote:
theyuusuf143 wrote: I would have respected the imaginary border, if there is any form of basic human rights there. It's immoral if I respect or support the death trap of my own people. Somaliland sovereignty deserves to be respectful, it's the only place in the horn ay nafta bini,aadamku qiimo la leedahay. Maanta Hadii laba qof bogcad Somaliland kamida isku dilaan dawladoo dhan baa gurmad u tagta sidii oo ay Meeshan masiibo ka dhacday. Ethiopia iyo wadamada geeska badidooda nafta bini, aadamku qiimo saasa kuma laha, boqolaal qof Hadii kurta laga jaro yaga waa u caadi. Meesha noocaasi ma mudna in la xaqdhawro marhadaanay yaguba iinsaan nimada xaqdhawrin.

well all Isaaq clans (except ciise muusa) are trans-national and crossborders.
And Muuse Abokor too. But Reer Yoonis are already expanding and should be in Hawd in the near future.

I dont think people differentiate that much deepr into HJ, its simply HJ, while Ciisa Muuse is pretty much a standalone tribe different from Sacad Muuse,
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Re: Any I-block family exclusive to Ethiopia

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togdheer i know hj live in hawd just not very deep. barsuug do not live in hawd but in shinile. all the ciidagalle live in ethiopia on both side of border. arab subeer celi wel represented and gulaane. sacad muse reer samater and reer axmed cabdalle reer shirdoon are reer hawd and makahil and reer liibaan and segments of cismaanada reer xoosh are mostly city peopl in jigjiga. hy are all there on both side of the border reer caynaashe wel represented and isxaaq and muse care
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