Are Oromo the greatest African conquerors?

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Are Oromo the greatest African conquerors?

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If rivers and lakes measure the greatness of an ethnic conquest, then we have to say Oromo can indeed fit into that. Just look at how many rivers and lakes are born in the lands their conquered with an iron fist.

I know historically they were blood thirsty warriors but somehow in the last 100 years they became little cats.

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Apart from Abay river or the Blue Nile, all the others take their water from the lands of Oromo.

I am personally big fan of Arsooma



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Rebranding history will not work. Oromo slaves yesterday slaves today.
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AwRastaale wrote:If rivers and lakes measure the greatness of an ethnic conquest, then we have to say Oromo can indeed fit into that. Just look at how many rivers and lakes are born in the lands their conquered with an iron fist.

I know historically they were blood thirsty warriors but somehow in the last 100 years they became little cats.

Image

Apart from Abay river or the Blue Nile, all the others take their water from the lands of Oromo.

I am personally big fan of Arsooma



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Without doubt it has to be the Bantu hordes......whom spread from a single region in central Africa....east, west, south. :)
PS they are still spreading today. :?
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If a singular ethnic group with one language, custom and faith were the measuring stick, hands down, Somalis have the largest land mass of any African ethnic group, north and south.

Oromos are lucky that we are historically a pastoralist society. If Somalis were agriculturalists, we would have invaded the highlands, and stayed for good. Killed off all the men and took the women as war brides.

Who can say no to these beauties?

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An open letter to Wacchi Oromite:

These women in exchange for a couple of rusted AK-47s, deal? :russ: .

Might as well bring back our lost Dir people back to the fold.
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The Oromos are indeed among the best conquerors.
Somalis do have more land than us. We give credit where it's due, unlike some people on this forum/in the world in general.
BUT most of the somali land is not suitable for agriculture. Southern Somalia is where the bulk of the farm land is, and i admit, it's very lush and fertile land there.
Oromia is suitable for farmers, somalia is suitable for nomads.
just depends on which you rather be.
i personally prefer the relaxed, farming life style.
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^There is fertile land in the North however it is completely controlled and owned by my clan.

Now brother Waachis I have a question.Are these Akisho and Jaarso long lost Oromo clans?
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Sahibzada wrote:^There is fertile land in the North however it is completely controlled and owned by my clan.

Now brother Waachis I have a question.Are these Akisho and Jaarso long lost Oromo clans?
the south is more fertile tho. 60% of it is arable land.
so i am going to share whatever knowledge i have, big or small or medium:
we can identify 7 oromo clans or groups in harar:

ittu
anniya
alla
baabbille
obborra
jarso
nole.

all of which came from a common distance ancestor: hambana, the son of barentu.

the afran qallo=the oromo who inhabit hararghe from the western part of chercher to the gara mula'ata masif, along the northern escarpment of the danakil depression, to the most easterly extensions of the hararghe plateau...

the jarso belong the oromo confederacies of the former hararghe province, but some/alot of jarso did create an alliance with the gerri/garri, use the somali language and even the somali form of governance the ''xeer''; so basically they're somalized oromo.
the remarkably assimilated Jarso were never fully integrated or accepted as members of the Geri, and have maintained their Jarso identity, as well.

akisho we consider as oromo in origin but they were assimilated by somalis too. they're a mixed group, essentially.
the akisho break down into:

Warra Miyyoo
Wara Bitto
Warra Daayyo
Warra Luujo
Warra Ittu
Warra Kiyyo
Warra Heebaana
Warra Kurto
Warra Obo
Warra Igoo
Warra Asaabo
Warra Ejjoo

the hawiye somali are in fact of oromo origin but they deny it because they feel too superior/stubborn.
lol :stylin:
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I dunno much about their history, but they do have some really beautiful women. They are little on the dark skin side, but they have that exotic look about them.
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GAMES wrote:I dunno much about their history, but they do have some really beautiful women. They are little on the dark skin side, but they have that exotic look about them.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8


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you cannot say 40 million humans are are ''all dark''. we're more diverse in looks than anyone in east africa dude.
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I didn't mean it like that. Just that they look kinda exotic from the ones I have seen here in my State. They are nice people (most Ethiopians were) from talking to them and having worked with them.

Anyways, good luck to the Promos and I wish em all the success.
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Let's not turn this topic into the usual tit-for-tat Oromo vs Somalis when in reality neither of them today possess the means to uproot the other because both are under the Habesha dominance.

Truth hurts but let's face it.

Yes Somalis conquered the largest land but nothing like the fertile and riverine Oromo highlands. The only exception is small land between the two Shabelle and Jubba rivers, which themselves are born in Oromo lands. When they dam (Ethiopia has already began) or rain doesn't fall in Oromia, then you have just another dry river bed in the Somali lowlands.

So it's important to acknowledge and study your intelligence carefully.

Akisho, Jarso and Gurgura are all Oromo clans whom some switched sides in order to gain privileges because as you may know there were times it was great to be Somali. This is the same reason Rahawein clans, an ex-Oromo, joined the Somali confederates leaving their Borana behind.

The Garre are good example. If the man with the bigger stick and bigger basket is Oromo, they join that side. If the Somalis have the day, then they switch sides. Akisho, Jarso and Gurgura are the same fold except they live few miles up north.

Hawiye was never Oromo. Hawiye and Oromo have nothing in common. The bases of Somali race are the Dir (minus Akisho, Gurgura, Jarso and other claims), Isaaq, Darood and Hawiye.

Rahanweyn is today major Somali clan but historically they are Oromo who were converted to Islam before the Somalinimo door was opened for them.

Today much of Akisho, Jarso and Gurgura have abandoned the Somalis and rejoined their original family. The Garre are still funny people. Under Ethiopian flag they are Oromo but when the TPLF is not watching they are quick to attack the Borana nomads.

If Somalis restore another great state, I am confident all the shape-shifters (Akisho, Jarso, Gurgura, Garre), will pledge loyalty to Somalinimo and many will declare themselves Dir, Somali Aboo, etc.

Just recall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tkyfljr-3w
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Waachis wrote:
Sahibzada wrote:^There is fertile land in the North however it is completely controlled and owned by my clan.

Now brother Waachis I have a question.Are these Akisho and Jaarso long lost Oromo clans?
the south is more fertile tho. 60% of it is arable land.
so i am going to share whatever knowledge i have, big or small or medium:
we can identify 7 oromo clans or groups in harar:

ittu
anniya
alla
baabbille
obborra
jarso
nole.

all of which came from a common distance ancestor: hambana, the son of barentu.

the afran qallo=the oromo who inhabit hararghe from the western part of chercher to the gara mula'ata masif, along the northern escarpment of the danakil depression, to the most easterly extensions of the hararghe plateau...

the jarso belong the oromo confederacies of the former hararghe province, but some/alot of jarso did create an alliance with the gerri/garri, use the somali language and even the somali form of governance the ''xeer''; so basically they're somalized oromo.
the remarkably assimilated Jarso were never fully integrated or accepted as members of the Geri, and have maintained their Jarso identity, as well.

akisho we consider as oromo in origin but they were assimilated by somalis too. they're a mixed group, essentially.
the akisho break down into:

Warra Miyyoo
Wara Bitto
Warra Daayyo
Warra Luujo
Warra Ittu
Warra Kiyyo
Warra Heebaana
Warra Kurto
Warra Obo
Warra Igoo
Warra Asaabo
Warra Ejjoo

the hawiye somali are in fact of oromo origin but they deny it because they feel too superior/stubborn.
lol :stylin:

Thanks for the info brother.These Oromos live amongst my folks in Gabiley and I believe they taught my folks how to farm and my clans love for horses which are alien concepts among the uncivilized Somali clans.

I took a DNA test last year and I was mainly Somali with Oromo influence.I probably had an Oromo female ancestor far back but my blood got diluted.

I have nothing but love for my Oromo cousins.Just remember Jibril Abokor when you take over Ethiopia.We will be more then happy to invade Jigjiga and chop Abdi iley's head off
:lol:
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AwRastaale wrote:Let's not turn this topic into the usual tit-for-tat Oromo vs Somalis when in reality neither of them today possess the means to uproot the other because both are under the Habesha dominance.

Truth hurts but let's face it.

Yes Somalis conquered the largest land but nothing like the fertile and riverine Oromo highlands. The only exception is small land between the two Shabelle and Jubba rivers, which themselves are born in Oromo lands. When they dam (Ethiopia has already began) or rain doesn't fall in Oromia, then you have just another dry river bed in the Somali lowlands.

So it's important to acknowledge and study your intelligence carefully.

Akisho, Jarso and Gurgura are all Oromo clans whom some switched sides in order to gain privileges because as you may know there were times it was great to be Somali. This is the same reason Rahawein clans, an ex-Oromo, joined the Somali confederates leaving their Borana behind.

The Garre are good example. If the man with the bigger stick and bigger basket is Oromo, they join that side. If the Somalis have the day, then they switch sides. Akisho, Jarso and Gurgura are the same fold except they live few miles up north.

Hawiye was never Oromo. Hawiye and Oromo have nothing in common. The bases of Somali race are the Dir (minus Akisho, Gurgura, Jarso and other claims), Isaaq, Darood and Hawiye.

Rahanweyn is today major Somali clan but historically they are Oromo who were converted to Islam before the Somalinimo door was opened for them.

Today much of Akisho, Jarso and Gurgura have abandoned the Somalis and rejoined their original family. The Garre are still funny people. Under Ethiopian flag they are Oromo but when the TPLF is not watching they are quick to attack the Borana nomads.

If Somalis restore another great state, I am confident all the shape-shifters (Akisho, Jarso, Gurgura, Garre), will pledge loyalty to Somalinimo and many will declare themselves Dir, Somali Aboo, etc.

Just recall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tkyfljr-3w
Image oromo girl caught twerking for her tigrei masters
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brother i agree with most of what you said. anytime i argue with somalis, i remind them that we're both under habasha hegemony, along with the afars our other cushitic language speaking kin.
as far as the hawiye, perhaps i read wrong, but i remember reading that they were oromo in origin.
some even say most somalis, or the original ones, were just ''a slice of the great galla nation, arab-ized by immigration from arabia.''
i'll need to read again on this.
but you're knowledgeable, so i can see what you're saying, it makes sense.
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