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Re: Top ONLF official seized by NISA handed over to Ethiopia

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Only in your dreams is Somaliland a puppet state.

When it comes to Berbera port, the allocation of revenue (17%) to Ethiopia is not part of the deal, however it is included as a side note for future concessions if the two signatories decide to implement it.

Now tell me..

Does Ethiopia have boots on the ground in SL?

Do they interfere in our politics covertly or overtly like they do in Zoomalia?

The answer is no.

Once we regain our long lost sovereignty we will rule Zoomalis like we were destined to do. Somali ethnic nationalism sidetracked us in 1960 and we made a terrible mistake but now we're back on track. :win:
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Re: Top ONLF official seized by NISA handed over to Ethiopia

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Xildiiid wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:45 am ^
Only in your dreams is Somaliland a puppet state.

When it comes to Berbera port, the allocation of revenue (17%) to Ethiopia is not part of the deal, however it is included as a side note for future concessions if the two signatories decide to implement it.

Now tell me..

Does Ethiopia have boots on the ground in SL?

Do they interfere in our politics covertly or overtly like they do in Zoomalia?

The answer is no.

Once we regain our long lost sovereignty we will rule Zoomalis like we were destined to do. Somali ethnic nationalism sidetracked us in 1960 and we made a terrible mistake but now we're back on track. :win:
The biggest political interest of Ethiopia in Somalia is NOT a secret one.This Tigre regime want ensure that Somalia stays weak and one that is divided into tribal mini states.The Ethiopian masters will reward any mini state that fulfils its wish.In other words,the mini state within Somalia that MOSTLY please Their Master will get their betty clannish interests safeguarded .And in the scramble to please Ethiopia ,Somaliland is NUMERO UNO bcoz they're at the forefront in dividing and working on the disunity of Somalia therefore they get extra attention for this.This is where you get the fake pride while your elites know that this monster master(Ethiopia) will NOT allow you to get Ictiraaf


Let me ask u does Ethiopia wants an independent and Internationally recognized Somaliland?? if you're a good politician then you're answer will be definitely NOOOOO.So now,at least you know your biggest enemy is ETHIOPIA and the main reason you pro-ethiopia ,just like any other Tribal mini state ,is to safeguard your Betty clanish interests which is basic foundation of Somaliland..and so are the rest of this mini states .Pleasing their master and their tribal interests is safeguarded.THIS IS DIVIDE AND RULE AT ITS BEST.sad but a fact.

Stay pleased and amused with your strong tribal mini state of the weak Somalia and diss other tribal mini states .Your Somaliland is the best of the worst 8-)
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Re: Top ONLF official seized by NISA handed over to Ethiopia

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Pure nonsense..

I don't think you're aware of history.. Somaliland gained her independence as a sovereign country on June 26, 1960 when Zoomalia was still in colonial bondage. It was a majority Iidoor National Assembly that ratified the Act of Union on June 27, 1960. In other words, my ancestors were willing to give up a country they dominated for the sake of Somali unity and to liberate colonized Somalis.

Unfortunately they were backstabbed by their so called "Somali brothers". Today when we are trying to regain our long lost sovereignty, the same people that backstabbed us are saying that we're destroying Somali unity.. isn't that ludicrous? What Somali clan other than Iidoor gave up a country they dominated for the sake of Somali unity?

We couldn't care less if Zoomalia (former Somalia Italiana) adopts clan federalism because it doesn't concern us.

Ethiopia is not different from Zoomalia and Djibooty. They all oppose Somaliland because we're viewed as a threat, unlike the other two, Ethiopia doesn't claim our territory.
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Xildiid,Now you acknowledge Ethiopia is against your dearest ambition in life ,an ambition that lead you to hate and flee from your own Somali people--and that's Ictiraaf. Good.

Why do you allocate Ethiopia or planning to give them 17% of Berbera revenue?? Can't understand why you should share your wealth with your archenemy(yes,cuz they're anti-ictiraaf) while your people are dying of hunger and your youth are dying in foreign water bodies in search of better life? ..can't you see that you're government can't take a major political and economical step without the permission of this bully master? .It is now clearer that Ethiopia don't want Ictiraaf for you and covertly decides any major political and economical issues of Somaliland.A person may ask then ;Why should Somaliland serve this bully Ethiopia? .The main reason is that ISAAQ WANT SAFEGUARD THEIR CLAN AGENDA NO ICTIRAAF AT ALL.just that.

Xildiid ,Now Somaliland should either choose one of this two options as far as Somaliland future is concerned.
1.Serving Ethiopian masters(Big enemies bcoz they say NOO to Ictiraaf) that will bully your govt and covertly controls all major decision in your beloved state

2.Joining Somalia and building our nation SINCE UNITY IS STRENGTH and we learn from our history because THOSE WHO DO NOT STUDY HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.
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You dont make sense and no we won't fall for that Somali unity, Ethiopia is the enemy bullshit.

Eritrea opposes Somaliland existence even though we don't share border. Despite the fact that our existence is more legitimate than theirs since Somaliland was a sovereign country that gained independence and not some breakaway state like Eritrea.

The allocation of revenue is not part of the deal, it's a side note for future concessions if SL and UAE (DP) agree on it. The revenue would come from DP World's share since they're trying to persuade Ethiopia in to becoming their major client. So I don't know where you got this notion that Ethiopia somehow covertly interferes in SL politics. It's ridiculous..

When it comes to Somalilands position on independence, we couldn't care less if the entire world was against us, we won't retract from our position. We gave up our country for the sake of Somalis, we sacrificed ourselves for them, the majority of the colonels/soldiers that liberated crucial districts/areas in 77-78 war were Iidoor, and we were repaid with political/economic exclusion, state terrorism and attempts to exterminate us.

We will rebuild our country and when we get our long lost sovereignty we will rule the Horn of Africa and outshine the rest like we would've done if we didn't fall for the Somali ethnic nationalism bullshit in 1960.
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Your stance on this issue is clannish one.You don't really want accept the reality on ground .good luck .

But the reality on ground is that we shall remain divided and manipulated by Ethiopia as long as we prioritize our clan interest over the national interest. But l was quite astounded that you are naive about the sad fact that your Somaliland is another puppet that serves the Master just like any other clannish state.
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I've presented facts that coincide with the reality on the ground..

Now riddle me this, why should Somaliland even consider a unification with Zoomalia when we've already been down that road and despite our sacrifices we got nothing but death and destruction in return. A sane person doesn't make the same mistake twice.

On the other hand, you're presenting your wishes as fact. You wish that Somaliland was like the clan fiefdoms in Zoomalia who can't handle their internal affairs, who are using foreign troops against eachother when they're not being manhandled and slaughtered by Al-Shabaab.

They all try to imitate Somaliland but we have a noble cause which they don't and that is to regain the long lost sovereignty of Somaliland. If our elders didn't commit that stupid mistake in 1960, we would've been a prospering nation and proud member of the international community. We wasted 30 years for nothing. So spare me the crocodile tears and story of the "Ethiopian boogeyman".
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All Somali clans ,in one way or another,suffered under the Dictatorship of Siyad Barre ;Isaaq,Majeerten,Habr Gidir,Ogaden and many others were never safe from the brutal government atrocities and that's way they took the arms against Barre's regime l don't know why you talk about massacre. Who was not massacred by Kacaan government?? There is no apparent reason why you're seeking ictiraaf other than to fulfil your wicked dream of only iidoor Shinning and dominating the horn in the expense of other clans as you said .And that's exactly why all Somali clans opposed Barre's regime .They never wanted that one clan(Marrhan)to rule them and decide their politics and other spheres of life.I repeat again, Those who do not study their history will be doomed to repeat it.Isaaq alone can't shine and prosper in the horn while the rest of Somalia are in political turmoil.Worst of all,the iidoorland are no.1 enemy of Somalia even ahead of Ethiopia bcoz they think a destabilized and chaotic Somalia will help them to get ICTIRAAF.

Closely study Somaliland politics and Ethiopian influence on it .You will be appalled .And stop hating on Somali clans .Waxaad u baahantihiin adigiyo kuwa noocaga ah inaad qiiro jabanta iyo salfudaydka iska yareysaan isla markaana aad joojisaan nacaybka aad u qabtaan Somalida kale illeen waa nacasnimee
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Re: Top ONLF official seized by NISA handed over to Ethiopia

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Nonsense..

What clan other than Isaaq have been subjected to state terrorism?

What clan other than Isaaq have been subjected to state policy with the goal of total extermination? Did a policy similar to 'dabargoynta Isaaqa' exist for other clans?

If you don't believe it, the policy with name 'dabargoynta Isaaqa' have been reported by credible human rights organizations such as Human Rights Watch.

What clan other than Isaaq had their cities subjected to aerial bombardments and heavy artillery?

What clan other than Isaaq were being targeted by foreign mercenaries such as Rhodesians hired by Afweyne?

This all happened despite the fact that we're the only clan that gave up a sovereign country we controlled and dominated because we wanted to liberate and unite all Somalis.. what we got in return was betrayal, death and destruction by our so called "Somali brothers"

We learned a valuable lesson, so now our goal is to regain our lost sovereignty and we won't stop until Somaliland is an internationally recognized country like she was on June 26, 1960.

You wish that Ethiopia had some kind of influence in Somaliland but we're not Zoomalia. :Shrug: :umad:


We were destined to rule Zoomalis and the Horn of Africa. :win:


Fuck the AMISOM brothel Zoomalia.
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And you want leave and betray Somalia because of Siyad Barre who's long gone? Isaaq was brutally targeted by the Kacaan government but they were not the only ones .The Kacaan government massacred and even poisoned Majeerten it also massacred Habargedir .But that's history. Any clan that tries to dominate this nimble and notorious skinnies is dead wrong and is destined to be destroyed just like Siyad Barre's Kacaan govt.Iidoor seem doomed to repeat history instead of learning from it.

Hhhh funny .Somaliland is part of Somalia.A puppet of Ethiopia .Keep on your with rants and go ahead with your fake pride but you shall remain an Ethiopian colony because you choose this miserable condition over the re-birth of strong united republic of Somalia...stay clannish and hater .Its sad but that is your choice .l blame the SNM leaders who don't want share their public with the cruel truth.
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give it up man, your fake crocodile tears won't fool anyone.
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Re: Top ONLF official seized by NISA handed over to Ethiopia

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BestPlaya wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:26 pm And you want leave and betray Somalia because of Siyad Barre who's long gone? Isaaq was brutally targeted by the Kacaan government but they were not the only ones .The Kacaan government massacred and even poisoned Majeerten it also massacred Habargedir .But that's history. Any clan that tries to dominate this nimble and notorious skinnies is dead wrong and is destined to be destroyed just like Siyad Barre's Kacaan govt.Iidoor seem doomed to repeat history instead of learning from it.

Hhhh funny .Somaliland is part of Somalia.A puppet of Ethiopia .Keep on your with rants and go ahead with your fake pride but you shall remain an Ethiopian colony because you choose this miserable condition over the re-birth of strong united republic of Somalia...stay clannish and hater .Its sad but that is your choice .l blame the SNM leaders who don't want share their public with the cruel truth.

The only Ethiopian colony in the Horn of Africa is Zoomalia and her weak, pathetic clan fiefdoms. You're trying to inject Somaliland but it's not working. Somaliland has never been part of Zoomalia. We were an independent nation when Zoomalia was still in colonial bondage, kinda like today.

The grievances and betrayal and backstabbing by our so called "Somali brothers" precede Afweyne Barre. If you know Somali history you would know that there was a failed coup 1961 when officers from Somaliland wanted to regain the independence of their country. By that time Afweyne was nowhere near a presidential seat.

With that said.. Keep shedding those crocodile tears. :pac:
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Staying a very happy Ethiopian puppet state which is covertly remote-controlled from Addis is your choice but l will tell you that's NOT the best political move you could make .No wonder ,most of this States think of their respective clan interests and each one is willing to work with anyone to get their tribal problems fixed yet they will accuse one another supporting of foreign powers.

Xildiid,l took my precious time ANOO ISKU DAYAYA INAAN KUU AQLI CELIYO lakin horay Somali u tiri NIN MEELI U CADAHAY LAMAKARO..according to your fictitious dreams maybe ICTIRAAF is knocking at the door.bye :up:
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Ethiopian doesn't control our political process nor does Ethiopia dictate our internal policies. On top of that do you see Ethiopian troops in Somaliland?

Don't project the reality of our neighbor Zoomalia.

It has nothing to do with clan fiefdoms because Somalilands case is unique. It's the first Somali speaking country to gain independence. Now tell me the dates of independence for Puntland, Galmudug, HirShabeelle , Koonfur Galbeed and Jubbaland. See.. you can't compare Somaliland to these ridiculous paper mamuls.

Nonetheless it all stems from your fear of an independent and recognized Somaliland and if I was you I would be scared as well. :mrgreen:
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Sauron wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:37 pm give it up man, your fake crocodile tears won't fool anyone.
OK bro 8-)
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