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AwRastaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:24 pm Ifat was Habesha and Oromo kingdom that began in Shewa. It was situated near Walaale town in Oromia.

Founded by the Makhzumis it was later taken over by the Walashma dynasty.

It consisted of Habesha, Oromo and Arab migrants.
BS the Oromo invasion is quite recent, the Arab migrants were a minor factor that existed in port cities and not in the interior. A german explorer discovered Somalis hated Arabs, Egyptian, Turks due to invasion of King Salim and his father. There are remnants of their coins all over the Ogaden region mainly Hawd area. This shows you they have for a period colonized Somalis.

But this is quite some time after Adal the explorer was in the area 1800s, Somalis killed alot of explorers that ventured into their land in the 1800s, at that time Harar was a Habashi shit hole.

in the 1930s when the Italians invaded Ethiopia and captured Harar, they found thousands of Somalis in chains in Harar jails. there has been extermination of Somalis at the hands of Abyssinian for centuries.
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AwRastaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:24 pm Ifat was Habesha and Oromo kingdom that began in Shewa. It was situated near Walaale town in Oromia.

Founded by the Makhzumis it was later taken over by the Walashma dynasty.

It consisted of Habesha, Oromo and Arab migrants.
Stop lying pathetic thing, Oromo came from south close to Kenya during Oromo expansion during 16 century. They nearly killed and finished most of the Islamic kingdom which were in the region including Adal Sultanate. Remember harar city wall was built by prince Nur to stop the Oromo from invading the city.
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Boon marehan, do not let me see you claiming Amir Nur again, we have settled this previously and that false claim was nuked, or you will flee this thread like you always do :) :up:


Be content with your grandfather the gutless Xiraabu Goita Theodorous :lol:

Nur Ibn Mujahid was not even Somali, the original Arabic sources are clear.
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The amharas had allot of Muslims habashas they christinize them I met allot of Christian and Muslim amhara in diredawa. Amhara Muslim and amhara Christian in termarry the wollo amara are the most mixed there are habarawal clans who are somali isaaq habarawal. Who are wollo aburahman bin awal. Brother of subeer awal. Is part of wolo and they are muslim
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Ben Dover wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:53 pm Boon marehan, do not let me see you claiming Amir Nur again, we have settled this previously and that false claim was nuked, or you will flee this thread like you always do :) :up:


Be content with your grandfather the gutless Xiraabu Goita Theodorous :lol:

Nur Ibn Mujahid was not even Somali, the original Arabic sources are clear.
Garaad Hiraabu is Rer Garaad Mataan, they live in Jubaland today, Here is a video of a Reer Garaad in Somaliland during a coronation of a suldaan.
[youtube]b9Vame5WweY&t=21s[/youtube]


I am not Rer Garaad, I am Rer Khalaf Hussein Yusuf Mataan, we also live in Jubaland and Central Somalia etc, I am closer related to Rer Ina Nuur descendants of Amir Nuur Yusuf Mataan.



By the way this thread is about Ifat that existed prior to Adal, I am interested mainly in Gerri, Gedabursi and Marehan genealogy or anyone who lives in the region today, since the Abbyssinians have done alot of extermination to Somalis we have completely forgotten who were the Ifat kingdom but those who live in that region found many remnants of several towns in the Hawd/Ogaden region particularly dating back to 12-14th century.
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Adali what's this marehen called ina nuur they live in luuq. Are they reer ugaas sharmarke.
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Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:14 pm Garaad Hiraabu is Rer Garaad Mataan, they live in Jubaland today, Here is a video of a Reer Garaad in Somaliland during a coronation of a suldaan.
[youtube]b9Vame5WweY&t=21s[/youtube]


I am not Rer Garaad, I am Rer Khalaf Hussein Yusuf Mataan, we also live in Jubaland and Central Somalia etc, I am closer related to Rer Ina Nuur descendants of Amir Nuur Yusuf Mataan.



By the way this thread is about Ifat that existed prior to Adal, I am interested mainly in Gerri, Gedabursi and Marehan genealogy or anyone who lives in the region today, since the Abbyssinians have done alot of extermination to Somalis we have completely forgotten who were the Ifat kingdom but those who live in that region found many remnants of several towns in the Hawd/Ogaden region particularly dating back to 12-14th century.

There is no such thing as Hiraabe. The Arabic was clear in writing Xiraabu (and not Hiraabe).

We can only accept this subclan to be related to Xiraabu Goita Theodorous if they have the names Xiraabu Goita Theodorous in the abtirsi.


Was Theodorous the grandson of boon marehan?
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:20 pm Adali what's this marehen called ina nuur they live in luuq. Are they reer ugaas sharmarke.
They live in Jubaland and Jigjiga, as well as other parts of kilinka.

They not Rer Ugaas Sharmaark, thats Rer Diini, but we join up at Reer Mataan, I have met one of their elders in Copenhagen and he told me Ina Nuur also live in Bali, they are extremely religious group.
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Ben Dover wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:25 pm
Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:14 pm Garaad Hiraabu is Rer Garaad Mataan, they live in Jubaland today, Here is a video of a Reer Garaad in Somaliland during a coronation of a suldaan.
[youtube]b9Vame5WweY&t=21s[/youtube]


I am not Rer Garaad, I am Rer Khalaf Hussein Yusuf Mataan, we also live in Jubaland and Central Somalia etc, I am closer related to Rer Ina Nuur descendants of Amir Nuur Yusuf Mataan.



By the way this thread is about Ifat that existed prior to Adal, I am interested mainly in Gerri, Gedabursi and Marehan genealogy or anyone who lives in the region today, since the Abbyssinians have done alot of extermination to Somalis we have completely forgotten who were the Ifat kingdom but those who live in that region found many remnants of several towns in the Hawd/Ogaden region particularly dating back to 12-14th century.

There is no such thing as Hiraabe. The Arabic was clear in writing Xiraabu (and not Hiraabe).

We can only accept this subclan to be related to Xiraabu Goita Theodorous if they have the names Xiraabu Goita Theodorous in the abtirsi.


Was Theodorous the grandson of boon marehan?
Yes Rer Garaad have Ahmed Hiraabu Ali Adan mataan in their lineage, theordorous no, Hiraabu is one of the descendants of Boqor Mohamed Dauud, I would say 50% of Mareexaan today are descendant from that line, the others like Wagardhac, Celi, Rer Hassan, Hawrarsame are not descendants of of the royal lineage, although Mareexaan royal lineage is long and at one point all Mareexaan have been part of it, for example I am Rer Dalal Ugaas Diini, the royal lineage continue with Rer Ugaas Sharmaake Diini to this day Marexaan has a single Ugaas, hence why we never divide ourselves into subclan politics, in all of the Mareexaan towns you can find different subclans who have nothing to do with the area except their Mareexaan citizenship. :lol:
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Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:43 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:24 pm Ifat was Habesha and Oromo kingdom that began in Shewa. It was situated near Walaale town in Oromia.

Founded by the Makhzumis it was later taken over by the Walashma dynasty.

It consisted of Habesha, Oromo and Arab migrants.
BS the Oromo invasion is quite recent, the Arab migrants were a minor factor that existed in port cities and not in the interior. A german explorer discovered Somalis hated Arabs, Egyptian, Turks due to invasion of King Salim and his father. There are remnants of their coins all over the Ogaden region mainly Hawd area. This shows you they have for a period colonized Somalis.

But this is quite some time after Adal the explorer was in the area 1800s, Somalis killed alot of explorers that ventured into their land in the 1800s, at that time Harar was a Habashi shit hole.

in the 1930s when the Italians invaded Ethiopia and captured Harar, they found thousands of Somalis in chains in Harar jails. there has been extermination of Somalis at the hands of Abyssinian for centuries.


This guy rooble has the references and books of history of Ifat being Gadabuursi, he I see also member here try to connect here. He lives in UK. Also beware he is so pro TPLF
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Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:42 pm Yes Rer Garaad have Ahmed Hiraabu Ali Adan mataan in their lineage, theordorous no, Hiraabu is one of the descendants of Boqor Mohamed Dauud, I would say 50% of Mareexaan today are descendant from that line, the others like Wagardhac, Celi, Rer Hassan, Hawrarsame are not descendants of of the royal lineage, although Mareexaan royal lineage is long and at one point all Mareexaan have been part of it, for example I am Rer Dalal Ugaas Diini, the royal lineage continue with Rer Ugaas Sharmaake Diini to this day Marexaan has a single Ugaas, hence why we never divide ourselves into subclan politics, in all of the Mareexaan towns you can find different subclans who have nothing to do with the area except their Mareexaan citizenship. :lol:
Fuck off man I was not looking for an answer, I was setting you up.

Now you ruined my FKD :lol:
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Cannuck who is that little guy with the lion what's his name whsts his subclan of gadabursi makahil maxammad case or habar carfaan
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:10 pm Cannuck who is that little guy with the lion what's his name whsts his subclan of gadabursi makahil maxammad case or habar carfaan
Gadabuursi Guy who lives in London very good in history and has some history books of Ifat sultanate, too bad he is anti Somali and pro Ethiopia. He also has account here under name rooble.
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Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:43 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:24 pm Ifat was Habesha and Oromo kingdom that began in Shewa. It was situated near Walaale town in Oromia.

Founded by the Makhzumis it was later taken over by the Walashma dynasty.

It consisted of Habesha, Oromo and Arab migrants.
BS the Oromo invasion is quite recent, the Arab migrants were a minor factor that existed in port cities and not in the interior. A german explorer discovered Somalis hated Arabs, Egyptian, Turks due to invasion of King Salim and his father. There are remnants of their coins all over the Ogaden region mainly Hawd area. This shows you they have for a period colonized Somalis.

But this is quite some time after Adal the explorer was in the area 1800s, Somalis killed alot of explorers that ventured into their land in the 1800s, at that time Harar was a Habashi shit hole.

in the 1930s when the Italians invaded Ethiopia and captured Harar, they found thousands of Somalis in chains in Harar jails. there has been extermination of Somalis at the hands of Abyssinian for centuries.

Wanlawein make all these ridiculous claims but I ain’t surprised with them coz it’s due to pure ignorance.

They only know how to claim everything and brag about it. Even they don’t claim it based on historical narrative but to boost tribal ego.

I am very well informed and if I post the sources that I have you all would be ashamed.

Do your researches guys and stop chasing fairytales to appease tribal egos.
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AwRastaale wrote: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:33 am
Adali wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:43 pm
AwRastaale wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:24 pm Ifat was Habesha and Oromo kingdom that began in Shewa. It was situated near Walaale town in Oromia.

Founded by the Makhzumis it was later taken over by the Walashma dynasty.

It consisted of Habesha, Oromo and Arab migrants.
BS the Oromo invasion is quite recent, the Arab migrants were a minor factor that existed in port cities and not in the interior. A german explorer discovered Somalis hated Arabs, Egyptian, Turks due to invasion of King Salim and his father. There are remnants of their coins all over the Ogaden region mainly Hawd area. This shows you they have for a period colonized Somalis.

But this is quite some time after Adal the explorer was in the area 1800s, Somalis killed alot of explorers that ventured into their land in the 1800s, at that time Harar was a Habashi shit hole.

in the 1930s when the Italians invaded Ethiopia and captured Harar, they found thousands of Somalis in chains in Harar jails. there has been extermination of Somalis at the hands of Abyssinian for centuries.

Wanlawein make all these ridiculous claims but I ain’t surprised with them coz it’s due to pure ignorance.

They only know how to claim everything and brag about it. Even they don’t claim it based on historical narrative but to boost tribal ego.

I am very well informed and if I post the sources that I have you all would be ashamed.

Do your researches guys and stop chasing fairytales to appease tribal egos.
I never claimed Ifat Kingdom, I am just interested in the history of the region.

I was prepared that some people would claim Ifat just as I was prepared for people like you would claim it has nothing to do with Somalis. :lol:

I am being objective here, post the stuff that would make us ashamed, hurry up.
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