Kismaayo security tightening

[original dervish]

That would be a favourable option.
The total annihilation of AS in JL must be a priority.

[sahal80]

Sahal......I thought the govts accepted for hg to keep all their civil war gains.

all clans have gained territory in the past why only HG? HG is reality in lower shabelle and in Xamar nowadays like Darod are reality in jubooyinka every day you hear new mx and darod villages and islands. Just when barre hiiraale was camping outskirts of kismaayo in 2013 he created alot mx villages around kismaayo that was originally bantu. Dir have invited aideed to the region against darod so firstly I don't care, thirdly they are irir and live with HG in galgaduud and mudug why not in lower shabelle? Lastly our next door HG aka habar aji jufada indhacade are the HG majority in lowershabelle so we welcome them moving out to our south!

[sahal80]

Sahal,

First, I know the game plan that Farmaajo is gonna do. You're not even close bro. The Bu'ale operation is being pushed by AFRICOM. AS is a no no. Blackie isn't coming back and Oromo don't give a fuck about Cagdheers in Jigjigia. If they did, they wouldn't throw Ina Iley in jail who was ten times more powerful and organized than Blackie.

Caytame,

There won't be bloodshed. The brothers of Sade and Absame won't fight. There are negotiations between both sides. I'll leave there. If plan A, doesn't work, then plan B will. I'll leave it there. You guys aren't even close.

I don't know about the US who is asking for liberating middle jubba while al Shabaab is gaining control in lower shabelle, this will be a suicide attemp but I can tell you one thing that is very very very true; Farmaajo wants to widen his OG support like cawlyahan in buaale after having gedo

To make OG isbadal first you need to widen your OG bases this is the main attempt from buaale(finding support out of gedo) secondly moving a pro govt potential admin to there. I'm out now.

Iga qor. There will be nation wide fight against AS. I don't trust you idiots enough to tell you more. I'm jeopardizing national security if I do.

The situation in Jubbaland won't be resolved by ciidaan or dagaal. However, there will be reform in the electoral committee and how they bring in MPs and give madax banani to the odayasha dhaqameed to pick their own representative. AMSOM won't interfer but secure the election hall at the UN compound in Kismaayo while IGAD reforms the political process and meets with the mucarad. How do I know this? I'm from Jubbaland and the VP Maxamud Sayid Adan is my juffo hoose, Reer Yusuf and I have sources in the xukumada JL. And the same with N&N.

No bullets will fly. There will be free and fair elections. There's too much interest in the region freeing Jubada Dhexe and eradicating the Afduub

some of your points could be compromised like independent electoral committee.

[original dervish]

We wish hawiye well in their south/Xamar....however, there are many prominent hagites whom wish to see J/L under Darood leaderdhip fail.

We cannot allow the sfg to have anh influence in JL because it is basically a hawiya goof.

The next president will almost certainly come from the extreme hagite groups.....we must consolidate ourselves before this happens.
Ps I'm not preaching for fitna.....just the reality sxb JL is our salvation in the south.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

We wish hawiye well in their south/Xamar....however, there are many prominent hagites whom wish to see J/L under Darood leaderdhip fail.

We cannot allow the sfg to have anh influence in JL because it is basically a hawiya goof.

The next president will almost certainly come from the extreme hagite groups.....we must consolidate ourselves before this happens.
Ps I'm not preaching for fitna.....just the reality sxb JL is our salvation in the south.

You're leader Blackie is killing JL. Not us. HAG isn't involved. Hawiye isn't helping us or nor will they.


You Kabalax mfs greed and xiin will destroy JL.

[sahal80]

We wish hawiye well in their south/Xamar....however, there are many prominent hagites whom wish to see J/L under Darood leaderdhip fail.

We cannot allow the sfg to have anh influence in JL because it is basically a hawiya goof.

The next president will almost certainly come from the extreme hagite groups.....we must consolidate ourselves before this happens.
Ps I'm not preaching for fitna.....just the reality sxb JL is our salvation in the south.

I agree with you. I'm for stable Somalia where each clans are free. HAGitelash similar to the whitelash caused by Obama is on the way in xamar so better to keep your Sahalite federal states free from the central govt but dont be munaafaq and support the same stuff in HAG states. Federalism was introduced for clan balance so that no clan could have absolute power.

[original dervish]

Listen sxb....we have our own land and settlements....we dont need haram.

Of course hawiya are with you....not because they like you....but to use you to destroy JL.

Every hawiya president from Abdul Qasim onwards has either armed you or fought alongside you in the Jubbas.

Now it seems N&N are the latest incarnation of this unholy alliance.

At least come clean sxb.....stop your weasel words...you want to turn kismayo into a mx goof.

[original dervish]

Sahal.....all of us must guard against munafiqism ca udibilah!

Yes there will be a backlash.....we hope the new hag president focus his energy on destroying AS and reconcilliation amongst the southern clans.

This idea of trying to sabotage each others progress is counter productive.

Why do you think the hagite are so determined to destroy JL.....I'd like your honest opinion sxb.

[ImamAhmed]

Why are darood so determined to stop banadir state turn hawiye and raxanweyn fed states into client states and cause a civil war in idooriya.

[sahal80]

Sahal.....all of us must guard against munafiqism ca udibilah!

Yes there will be a backlash.....we hope the new hag president focus his energy on destroying AS and reconcilliation amongst the southern clans.

This idea of trying to sabotage each others progress is counter productive.

Why do you think the hagite are so determined to destroy JL.....I'd like your honest opinion sxb.

Sxb qabiil have gone by late 90s and 2000 there was subclan alliances back then sheekhal were with moorgan bc mx and ceyr invaded jilib also beerxaano of gaaljecel now I think half of it are mx and then this clan-based federalism came out of no where. Now mx and HG still have the old subclan coalition mentality not just over jubooyinka but also in galgaduud ahlussuna and even Farmaajo backed daljir HG in the first round, abdirahman abdishakur voted him in the second round to get the PM post or ministerial position. MJ and OG believe in federalism. I dont think now there is a HAG attack on JL bc they r not allies with mx and N&N are kinda two groups like the murursade who mainly concentrate on banaadir and the destruction of Hiraab power similar to mx Destruction of Kablakax power in JL.

[original dervish]

Very interesting.....hg are the most powerful and expansionist of all the hags.

Abgal have their hands full and Murasade/Hawadle focus on their local regions.

Hg/mx alliance is a very serious threat to the existance of JL.... because they both have good relations with AS...that is why their militias can pass freely through AS lines..... we will have to wait and see though.

[Sagax]

Very interesting.....hg are the most powerful and expansionist of all the hags.

Abgal have their hands full and Murasade/Hawadle focus on their local regions.

Hg/mx alliance is a very serious threat to the existance of JL.... because they both have good relations with AS...that is why their militias can pass freely through AS lines..... we will have to wait and see though.

Lol, this is an open secrete that HG were always the most powerful and most expansionist of all Somalis not just within Hawiye, what HG lacks today is just unity and a leadership, hopefully those 2 points will be resolved in the Hobyo Conference where HG are united in a conference since Aideed (AUN).

As for Jubaland so long HAG breathes it will never stabilise as another darood state.



p.s the youths is just another shaati for the beesha.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

The signal the US sends Blackie and his cronies:

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I don't know about the US who is asking for liberating middle jubba while al Shabaab is gaining control in lower shabelle, this will be a suicide attemp but I can tell you one thing that is very very very true; Farmaajo wants to widen his OG support like cawlyahan in buaale after having gedo

To make OG isbadal first you need to widen your OG bases this is the main attempt from buaale(finding support out of gedo) secondly moving a pro govt potential admin to there. I'm out now.

Iga qor. There will be nation wide fight against AS. I don't trust you idiots enough to tell you more. I'm jeopardizing national security if I do.

The situation in Jubbaland won't be resolved by ciidaan or dagaal. However, there will be reform in the electoral committee and how they bring in MPs and give madax banani to the odayasha dhaqameed to pick their own representative. AMSOM won't interfer but secure the election hall at the UN compound in Kismaayo while IGAD reforms the political process and meets with the mucarad. How do I know this? I'm from Jubbaland and the VP Maxamud Sayid Adan is my juffo hoose, Reer Yusuf and I have sources in the xukumada JL. And the same with N&N.

No bullets will fly. There will be free and fair elections. There's too much interest in the region freeing Jubada Dhexe and eradicating the Afduub

some of your points could be compromised like independent electoral committee.

Like I said. What I say is credible. I don't lie on my name:

https://hiiraan.com/news4/2019/Aug/1650 ... habab.aspx

[sahal80]

Iga qor. There will be nation wide fight against AS. I don't trust you idiots enough to tell you more. I'm jeopardizing national security if I do.

The situation in Jubbaland won't be resolved by ciidaan or dagaal. However, there will be reform in the electoral committee and how they bring in MPs and give madax banani to the odayasha dhaqameed to pick their own representative. AMSOM won't interfer but secure the election hall at the UN compound in Kismaayo while IGAD reforms the political process and meets with the mucarad. How do I know this? I'm from Jubbaland and the VP Maxamud Sayid Adan is my juffo hoose, Reer Yusuf and I have sources in the xukumada JL. And the same with N&N.

No bullets will fly. There will be free and fair elections. There's too much interest in the region freeing Jubada Dhexe and eradicating the Afduub

some of your points could be compromised like independent electoral committee.

Like I said. What I say is credible. I don't lie on my name:

https://hiiraan.com/news4/2019/Aug/1650 ... habab.aspx

where it does mention jubbada dhexe? let me inform you the correct info. This has to do with the US starting funding again the SNA and kheyre will be accountable this time not Farmaajo why? There r two theories on this first says It has to do with Qatar promoting kheyre and Farmaajo has lost the UAE also and these countries are front states for the US. Second theory wich is very popular says it has to do with kheyre being "local guy" though he is from small clan still he represents hawiye and the SNA in this region is mainly hawiye. Goodax is closer to farmaajo not kheyre because him and saynab meet at two Awoowe( abdullahi godah barre fiidow. Saynab grand mother is the daughter of fiidow) kheyre was against appointing goodax he just did it for saynab also goodax making alot of confrontation with students and PL and speaking about Kenya in baardheere kheyre saw this as someone who is not align with the cabinet or with him but he survived bc of his saynab connections. It's strange now goodax promoting kheyre in FB

This is when the US stopped the funding after finding out the army had no food diesel or even guns.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1E81XF

All this is rubbish propaganda. Kheyre wants to use this for elections part of his slogan campaign "waa matkii ugu horeeysay" xamar police wouldn't evacuate their stations at night if there was SNA