Rer cabudwaaq council announced !

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Rer cabudwaaq council announced !

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Rer dalal got 5 seats which is satisfactory it seems great over all to me and very fair
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There’s nothing fair in the way these seats were allocated. Once again one reer eats while the rest of mx gets screwed over.
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Rer Siyaad hussen take a big W kaalintood ayagaa qaatay, Rer Dalal massively disappointed if this list is true, I believe its fake list as they saying goes "shanta Rer Dalal waxaa lix ku ah Caabudwaaq"
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Rer Dalal is 70% of Caabudwaaq city in terms of population there are upwards of 20 diya paying groups within Rer Dalal, so why does Rer Dalal get five totally insane, this would be my allocation.

Rer Dalal 14 +9
Rer Siyaad hussen 5 :up:
Wagardhac 1 -4
Celi 1 -2
Habar Ciise 1 :up:
Rer Xirsi 1 :up:
Rer Maxamuud Gulled 1 :up:
Sharmaake Roble 1 +1
Howrarsame 1 :up:
Cali Dheere 1 +1

5 MX Juffo were correct, rest of the table is a mess.
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1. Rer Shermaarke Rooble is missing.
2. Rer Nuur is missing.
3. Habar Ciise is underrepresented, at the least 2 should have sufficed.

4. Rer Dalal is overrepresented.
5. Rer Diini is overrepresented.
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We can always fix the MX power sharing formula. The thing that bothers me is the fact Cayr and Surre get reps. Why?
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Saddam, FiqiMuxumud live in Caabudwaaq and Xananbuure is within the Caabudwaaq district.

I am honestly not bothered by conciliatory 1 or 2 seats to your fellow Somalis.

I think the problem is bigger with in. There is overt greed that needs to be arrested.
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Looma dhama :down:
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I think its fair and reflects the greater MX population in CW.
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grandpakhalif wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:57 pm I think its fair and reflects the greater MX population in CW.
Grandpa of course you do, have you ever criticized your reer in anything? I haven't seen you criticize them once, in xaq or thulm.

In my opinion, I think you will reconsider your position when you realize the impact of the message you have sent recently.

The future power base of Marehan is Jubbaland.

Even Fartaag's awrkacsi, WHO IS REER DIINI WITH YOU, has been anti-rer Mudug backlash as his side reinterpreted the JVA. Iskaba daa why Maxamuud Sayid, Dhuumaal, Alankeey, and Cabaas Talxe are even now esconsced with Madoobe.

I would be surprised if the lessons received from these recent actions do not lead to your even butter resentment when it comes to equity in Jubbaland.

And you won't have anybody to blame... because you set the example.
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:57 pm 1. Rer Shermaarke Rooble is missing.
2. Rer Nuur is missing.
3. Habar Ciise is underrepresented, at the least 2 should have sufficed.

4. Rer Dalal is overrepresented.
5. Rer Diini is overrepresented.
I agree, this is a fair take you can’t argue against!
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North, if you are stronger and bigger than your brother, and it is especially an extraordinary time concentrating on Reconciliation and wada qaybsi, fairness is not taking 4 out of the 5 pieces of candy and giving your little brother 1.

The concept of Maxamuud Saleebaanism has been introduced to Marehan Mudug and I don't think the people who introduced it will celebrate the concept when it is replicated in Marehan Jubba.

I would rather be known for compromising and spoiling even my brother than being frugal or thrifty towards him. That's what I would be towards my brother and would hope he is towards me and all the rest of his brothers.
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Gubbet wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:33 pm North, if you are stronger and bigger than your brother, and it is especially an extraordinary time concentrating on Reconciliation and wada qaybsi, fairness is not taking 4 out of the 5 pieces of candy and giving your little brother 1.

The concept of Maxamuud Saleebaanism has been introduced to Marehan Mudug and I don't think the people who introduced it will celebrate the concept when it is replicated in Marehan Jubba.

I would rather be known for compromising and spoiling even my brother than being frugal or thrifty towards him. That's what I would be towards my brother and would hope he is towards me and all the rest of his brothers.

You speak from history in regards this whole ordeal in Jubaland. And I’m your witness. This debate however goes beyond Mudug. Talxe in my opinion don’t have their just due. As a Reer Hassan and Reer Guuri I see it clearly. Same with Reer Garaad.
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Saddam, your perspective is important for making this issue plain to understand more than my sarbeeb.

When I said, Fartaag, WHO IS EVEN REER DIINI WITH YOU---the salient point was forget even imagining what the rest of Marehan thinks who themselves feel reer Diini is too overrepresented altogether.

This is playing out at multiple levels.

Also Saddam, I have told you this in private, so do not be surprised by me pointing out, the Guri card is outdated and reer Hassan in particular are more than represented.

Fartaag's senate seat is a single personal issue unattributable to any clan but his personal action with Madoobe.

The use of the Guri card is not the correct card to use when you as rer Hassan are VP of Jubbaland, Governor of Gedo, and local and national representations.

I prefer to go by DEEGAAN, not migration period.

I don't care if you are Uurmidig reer Mudug in Balanbale or an Uurmidig Guri in Ceel-Waaq, or an Hawlraarsame reer Mudug in Caabudwaaq or a Hawlraarsame Guri in Dollow or a an Cali Dheere reer Mudug in Balanbale or an Cali Dheere Galti in Beled-Xaawo----there should be recognition of your equity.

Also let's be real, Guri doesn't do anything to rer Dalal or Diini or as much to reer Ugas Shermaarke even. It primarily comes at the expense of reer Garbahaarey as if they aren't with legitimate equity or aren't sufficiently deegaan holders. Reer Siyaad has been minding their own business in Garbahaarey and are not represented in any regional or federal leadership.

However, generally both as Diini and when it comes to deegaan, certainly there is alot wrong with how power has been accessed and certainly all out perspectives are unique.

Caabudwaaq has been the most public Marehan-own representation process to take place first. I DON'T like the lesson it sent. Caabudwaaq should have led towards a different route.

I am not so hopeful that Marehan will be capable of building a system that is more universally satisfactory in Jubbaland when it comes to their time if Caabudwaaq's result is any prediction to go by.
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Gubbet wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:34 am Saddam, your perspective is important for making this issue plain to understand more than my sarbeeb.

When I said, Fartaag, WHO IS EVEN REER DIINI WITH YOU---the salient point was forget even imagining what the rest of Marehan thinks who themselves feel reer Diini is too overrepresented altogether.

This is playing out at multiple levels.

Also Saddam, I have told you this in private, so do not be surprised by me pointing out, the Guri card is outdated and reer Hassan in particular are more than represented.

Fartaag's senate seat is a single personal issue unattributable to any clan but his personal action with Madoobe.

The use of the Guri card is not the correct card to use when you as rer Hassan are VP of Jubbaland, Governor of Gedo, and local and national representations.

I prefer to go by DEEGAAN, not migration period.

I don't care if you are Uurmidig reer Mudug in Balanbale or an Uurmidig Guri in Ceel-Waaq, or an Hawlraarsame reer Mudug in Caabudwaaq or a Hawlraarsame Guri in Dollow or a an Cali Dheere reer Mudug in Balanbale or an Cali Dheere Galti in Beled-Xaawo----there should be recognition of your equity.

Also let's be real, Guri doesn't do anything to rer Dalal or Diini or as much to reer Ugas Shermaarke even. It primarily comes at the expense of reer Garbahaarey as if they aren't with legitimate equity or aren't sufficiently deegaan holders. Reer Siyaad has been minding their own business in Garbahaarey and are not represented in any regional or federal leadership. So the term Guri is borderline manipulative honestly.

However, generally both as Diini and when it comes to deegaan, certainly there is alot wrong with how power has been accessed and certainly all out perspectives are unique.

Caabudwaaq has been the most public Marehan-own representation process to take place first. I DON'T like the lesson it sent. Caabudwaaq should have led towards a different route.

I am not so hopeful that Marehan will be capable of building a system that is more universally satisfactory in Jubbaland when it comes to their time if Caabudwaaq's result is any prediction to go by.

Sxb I wasn’t using the Guuri card for myself or Reer Hassan. I was speaking in regards to Talxe. You misunderstood me completely. My sub got theirs by xoog not baryo. I have more than enough. Talxe is a huge clan and it should reflect that. Nor am I saying this to say I’m not willing to give up my own position of power for beesha. The reason that was because of our internal conflict. MXs in JL are willing to share, the ones in Mudug are more conservative than us IN MY VIEW.
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