I agree with the professor here, you can’t defeat al shabab with tribal miltias long term. Who are these tribal militias accountable to? What happens if they commit atrocities based on clan? Reviving the failed usc will not defeat al shabab
The professor also suggests having the PM and cabinet to be replaced. The current PM is useles yes man, and the cabinet are not doing their jobs. Im sure even HSM knows his government is a disaster.
Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
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- MrSinister
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Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
This man is impossible. I actually want to see him critique himself. Or even identify 1 single anything that is a solution or a potential option/choice.
I cannot see myself finding him credible in anything including even criticism of HSM govt whom I oppose on on significant issues.
This guy is like that Dr Uluso guy..
If a bird farts---she is bad.
If she holds in her flatulence ---she is bad.
If she burbs to relieve by exhalation---she is bad.
If she throws up bile to remove the source creating indigestion ---she is bad.
If she takes calcium carbonate tablets--she is bad.
Heck if she takes anabolic water mixed with little baking soda to neutralize acids---she is bad.
I find his entire public contribution irrelevant to he honest.
If I already know what you are going to say 100% of the time,....than one can predict whatever your position at anytime about anything. At that point, listening to one ia irrelevant.
I cannot see myself finding him credible in anything including even criticism of HSM govt whom I oppose on on significant issues.
This guy is like that Dr Uluso guy..
If a bird farts---she is bad.
If she holds in her flatulence ---she is bad.
If she burbs to relieve by exhalation---she is bad.
If she throws up bile to remove the source creating indigestion ---she is bad.
If she takes calcium carbonate tablets--she is bad.
Heck if she takes anabolic water mixed with little baking soda to neutralize acids---she is bad.
I find his entire public contribution irrelevant to he honest.
If I already know what you are going to say 100% of the time,....than one can predict whatever your position at anytime about anything. At that point, listening to one ia irrelevant.
Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
This concern exists among all Southern minorities like dir oo ah meesha uu professerka ka shidaal qaato. Remember him saying we r 4.5 Rooble doesn't not represent Dir oo ku dhex jir odayaal qabiil
and some politicians who want positions in the Gov like Haji Ingris he is Saleebaan with Sacad mother oo ku share ah Bukhari, Cadaala iyo Qoorqoor so they became Al Shabaab apologists they r not sincere at all.
this is different than USC. Macawisleey is not a political movement. Dabageed stays with them if they were like Xuud they could have killed him, Jeyte is their leader, Cabdullahi barre ex Badbaado Hiiraan officer is their commander. Cali dhuux Banaadir police deputy is with them in Ceelhareeri and Tardo.
this is like what Egypt did by arming Sinai tribes. the only worry is qabiilada miyiga isku dagaali doonaan waana dhaqan soo jiray waligiis ama hubee ama hubeen!
barnaamaj waxaa la wadaa in reserve army laga dhigo mustaqbalka xiligii loo baahdo oo mushaar loo qorayo sacuudiga ayaa sameeya. they get paid through their tribal shekhs who r loyal to the kingdom. they r not regular army who stays in their bases alot of them have second jobs
The national guard is under the administrative control of the Ministry of the National Guard, instead of the Ministry of Defence. It differs from the regular Saudi army in being forged out of tribal elements loyal to the House of Saud and tasked with protecting the royal family from internal dangers such as a coup d'état.[6]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_A ... onal_Guard
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1378601/m ... ic%20State
and some politicians who want positions in the Gov like Haji Ingris he is Saleebaan with Sacad mother oo ku share ah Bukhari, Cadaala iyo Qoorqoor so they became Al Shabaab apologists they r not sincere at all.
this is different than USC. Macawisleey is not a political movement. Dabageed stays with them if they were like Xuud they could have killed him, Jeyte is their leader, Cabdullahi barre ex Badbaado Hiiraan officer is their commander. Cali dhuux Banaadir police deputy is with them in Ceelhareeri and Tardo.
this is like what Egypt did by arming Sinai tribes. the only worry is qabiilada miyiga isku dagaali doonaan waana dhaqan soo jiray waligiis ama hubee ama hubeen!
barnaamaj waxaa la wadaa in reserve army laga dhigo mustaqbalka xiligii loo baahdo oo mushaar loo qorayo sacuudiga ayaa sameeya. they get paid through their tribal shekhs who r loyal to the kingdom. they r not regular army who stays in their bases alot of them have second jobs
The national guard is under the administrative control of the Ministry of the National Guard, instead of the Ministry of Defence. It differs from the regular Saudi army in being forged out of tribal elements loyal to the House of Saud and tasked with protecting the royal family from internal dangers such as a coup d'état.[6]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_A ... onal_Guard
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1378601/m ... ic%20State
Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
The samatr brothers are self serving creatures, they shouldn’t be taken seriouslyGubbet wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:33 am This man is impossible. I actually want to see him critique himself. Or even identify 1 single anything that is a solution or a potential option/choice.
I cannot see myself finding him credible in anything including even criticism of HSM govt whom I oppose on on significant issues.
This guy is like that Dr Uluso guy..
If a bird farts---she is bad.
If she holds in her flatulence ---she is bad.
If she burbs to relieve by exhalation---she is bad.
If she throws up bile to remove the source creating indigestion ---she is bad.
If she takes calcium carbonate tablets--she is bad.
Heck if she takes anabolic water mixed with little baking soda to neutralize acids---she is bad.
I find his entire public contribution irrelevant to he honest.
If I already know what you are going to say 100% of the time,....than one can predict whatever your position at anytime about anything. At that point, listening to one ia irrelevant.
- MrSinister
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Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
Let’s stop attacking the messenger here. If anything, professor Samatar has been consistent in his criticisms of all Somali governments.
Also, the new CBB who are mostly abgal seems to be attacking anyone who criticize this governments approach to fighting shabab. Look at all their mindless supporters on social media trying to shut down any debate about hsm failures.
This is how HSM is able to continue his corruption by attacking opponents and shutting down debate.
Also, the new CBB who are mostly abgal seems to be attacking anyone who criticize this governments approach to fighting shabab. Look at all their mindless supporters on social media trying to shut down any debate about hsm failures.
This is how HSM is able to continue his corruption by attacking opponents and shutting down debate.
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Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
There is a reason why al shabab is in the south and specifically HAG lands.
Those lands from 1992 to 2006 had mooriyaan rule. A literal mad max society where anyone with a gun could kill, rape and loot anything he wanted without consequences.
Al shabaab are brutal but they have monopolised violence which you may think is a bad thing but compared the clan militias who fought constantly and killed on a much more frequent basis. One entity with monopoly on violence is better then 20 militias each vying for s piece of the pie.
What was needed was al shabaab to be replaced by the government. But the south is going backwards al shabab is being replaced by the same clan militias that caused havoc from 1992 to 2006.
Those lands from 1992 to 2006 had mooriyaan rule. A literal mad max society where anyone with a gun could kill, rape and loot anything he wanted without consequences.
Al shabaab are brutal but they have monopolised violence which you may think is a bad thing but compared the clan militias who fought constantly and killed on a much more frequent basis. One entity with monopoly on violence is better then 20 militias each vying for s piece of the pie.
What was needed was al shabaab to be replaced by the government. But the south is going backwards al shabab is being replaced by the same clan militias that caused havoc from 1992 to 2006.
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Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
I don't take ilma samatar very seriously , they talk shit and do nothing. Habar fadhida legdini la fudud.
Re: Professor Samatar: Somalia’s strategy for the war against al shabab will condemn the country to hell
ustad sahal got this one. samatar is motivated by gadabirsi tribal affiliations. surre n biyamal. but my nigga sinister being disengenious. everyting between hawiya n al shabab tribes also the analagous to mahamud saleban n ISIL tribes in magertenland. siwakhron n ali saleban
aran jan n gurgurte solutions to terrorism. condemn the ex italian colony to perpetual civil war
aran jan n gurgurte solutions to terrorism. condemn the ex italian colony to perpetual civil war
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