muslim feminists... oxy moron or our history?

[afdhere]

a friend of mine attended this conference. very cool stuff, she reported.

afdhere

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4384512.stm


Islam feminists urge gender jihad

By Danny Wood

BBC News, Madrid

Organisers of the first international congress on Islamic feminism are calling for a "gender jihad".

Organiser Abdennur Prado Pavon says the struggle for gender equality in Islamic countries involves refuting chauvinist interpretations of Muslim teachings.

The congress is being held in Spain, organisers say, because they want their message to reach the growing number of Muslim women in Europe.

Around 300 delegates are looking at women's rights in the Islamic world.

Mr Prado, of the Catalan Islamic board, believes a common misconception in the West is that women's liberation is not possible in Muslim societies.

Activists representing the Islamic feminist movement are in Barcelona to counter that view and discuss ways of achieving female equality in an Islamic context.

Collaboration

Among the delegates is the Pakistani feminist Riffat Hassan, regarded as one of the pioneers of Islamic feminist theology.

Also here are representatives from the international association, Islamic Feminism.

Islamic Feminism argues that the inferior legal and social status of women in Muslim countries is a result of misogynistic distortions of the teachings in the Koran.

Organisers say they want more collaboration with western feminists but say non-Muslim feminists need to challenge their anti-Islamic stereotypes.

[AMAT-ALLAH]

As a former member of the eco-feminist group, I personally have seen the awful subjectivity that pierces through their ideologies. And their failure to welcome the ideas that did not coincide with theirs—gosh u no what feminist are ungrateful first and foremost.(let me just get that off my chest)

I feel feminism is a sickness that has damaged and hurt men and women in different ways and has damaged our marriages and social structure. If ever the devil was to find a way to keep people further from God, he could do it by turning men and women against each other. He waited for our modern day for his feminism plan to work though. Women cannot deny their need for a man internally, nor can men deny their need for a woman. However in our modern day western wealth, that need is hidden in the form of pride, bitterness, selfishness, and greed to name just a few reasons.

Also one major failure I see and huge flaw with feminism is how they only achieve the standards of ‘the man’, so they haven’t really set out any different reachs/goals, its purely there to be like ‘men’ …and that’s a great shame cos the potential of many feminist groups could actually do a lot of good for women. Now in regards to Muslim-Feminists being an oxymoron, ive got to agree with you, although it is part of the evolving history we see in many text books. Their struggle then and now are similar, but the term feminism wasn’t misused and it genuinely stressed a collective problem women were facing on a day-to-day basis.

But I love what these muslim women are doing, and they are creating a sweeping revolution and are finally getting heard…but as the cynic that I am, its gonna take a whole lotta time, so fingers crossed lol

[afdhere]

so ... who says they hurt our families? yes, they hurt familial crap based on patriarchal stuff. that doesn't hurt us... as people... but it dismantles discrimination.

imho, these women are doing things some muslim women have done forever. don't know if they will have an impact... but i love them for trying.

afdhere

[optimist_1]

Go Amat Go Amat Go Go

[afdhere]

amat, i just noticed your avatar... wallahi that i ssssoooo cute !

afdhere

[SoMaLiSiZz]

Note ====> Do not add cute and wallahi in the same sentence regard that avatar! That would be an insult and abuse of the meaning of Wallahi...



Great Topic Btw ... Fe Aman Allah

[optimist_1]

Go Somalisizz Go Somalisizz Go Go

Afdhere you have left fold of Islam how can you say Wallahi

[afdhere]

somalisiz, the arabic word "fouk yoou" is actually an arabic phrase... which i'm not sure amat understands... aside from it looking like the english word.


optimist, dude what r u on? how can you say i left the fold of islam? be'oullak ya shafout, ana... muslim, alhamdulillah. alf marrah wa wahed.

what kind of optimist r u, btw?

afdhere

[gurey25]

never heard of any arabic phrase "fouk youu" or even a persian or urdu
meaning for foouk youu where did you get this phrase man!!

[SoMaLiSiZz]

[quote="afdhere"]somalisiz, the arabic word "fouk yoou" is actually an arabic phrase... which i'm not sure amat understands... aside from it looking like the english word.
[/quote]

Ya ceny, what kind of phrase would that be

[afdhere]

gurey, and somalisiz,

no... that is not the same word for "fucccck you" besides, arabs don't use that word. (in arabic, this would be like "kuzz nafsak"? lol) they use "kuzz ummak" or "kuzz ukhtak" (well .. i can't translate that now lol !!!! )

but the phrase means something else i want sister amat to figure out

afdhere

[AMAT-ALLAH]

afdhere im def not a hater for there cause, im a woman too am constantly under the puplit of discrimation whether it be office,outside etc thats life, and they are Alhamduilah voicing a concern, but if u read careful as to what i wrote, im sure u get the idea that 'feminsim' and all its connostaions surrounding that, is what i dislike....

Optimist do u want some pomp pomps while your there?

[afdhere]

amat,

i think you are talking about radical feminism. that i don't like, myself. but that is because i don't like anything radical. however, i think what ayesha was doing in the 7th century was definitely feminism, imho.

also, what you are doing being in an office. masha allah. i fucccking hate those godddaamn somali men who expect their daughters, wives or the daughters of their people to either be working in the janitorial business or wait cutely for a welfare check

a woman has so much potential. because women are smarter than me, they naturally do better

afdhere

[AMAT-ALLAH]

To be honest ive had my fair share of feminist BS flowing via my vains once --which is a lil to senstive for me to talk about

As much as love what 'some' feminists do/have done all credit to them lakiinse radical, and many other worthless feminist groups are a pain in the backside and i wish good riddens to them if they every disappear that is...ukkk


@LOOL office, yes im in an office working my bloody socks of but all in the name of money ££....no you see im on gap year at the moment, i need some financial aid be4 i go on my backpacking trip which starts on March 06 insh allah --The off to Uniy..ukkk

Wow a guy admitting to have a smaller intelligence than women...acudbillah 'kodac moment'...but then again you being a queer does tend to make u guys envious of women dont it?

Salaams

[afdhere]

amat,

it is not being queer... it is science. women are smarter than men. don't know why that is ... but it is. also shows that when women ruled the world, it was ruled smartly even evil women did better job

yes, education is #1 priority... stick with it, lots of money will come...

afdhere