bad government is better than no government?

[The_Patriot]

[quote="surrender"][color=#4040FF][b]bad government is better than no government?


yes?


no?[/b][/color][/quote]
Your question is ambiguous.
A govt is for its people not against its people.

[great-legend]

Surrender That is true
but hawiye dowlad ma rabaane maxaa talaa
madaxaa laga garaaci doonaye iskada

[The_Patriot]

[quote="great-legend"]Surrender That is true
but hawiye dowlad ma rabaane maxaa talaa
madaxaa laga garaaci doonaye iskada[/quote]

Dawlad maxaa wayee?
TFG=Arsidoon.

[eyes-only]

NO

A bad government is NOT better than no government.

For example, the Siad Barre regime was a bad government it murdered and displaced many people. Without a central government, the people of Somaliland managed to rebuild their land and establish a government to suit them, the people of Puntland managed to do the same, the people of southern Somalia although struggling against internationally funded warlords managed to establish thriving businesses and most of them were doing much better than they were under the former regime and peace was slowly returning.

The TFG is the worst government Somalia has ever had, now compare that to before colonisation when we never had any governments. Do you think those people, your grandparents or great grandparents would opt for a TFG to self determination and freedom?

I think not. If a bad government means giving up your right to your land and freedom, if a bad government means torture and displacement, if bad government means having warlords as leaders, I would rather have no government at all. Otherwise you only have legalised banditry and barbarity...which in truth should not be called a government at all but is recognised around the world as one and funded the same.

At least you can get order out of chaos and with time, you can even get peace and justice. But a rotten infected tree planted on any soil will remain rotten to the core and the only remedy is to uproot it and destroy it before it causes more harm.

[surrender]

Surrender That is true
but hawiye dowlad ma rabaane maxaa talaa
madaxaa laga garaaci doonaye iskada

you right great-legend people in the south dont seem to want a government at all. i mean look around the world. which country is corruption free? non, even USA and britain, the things they get up to, like the FBI, CIA, MI5/6 walahi i once watch a documentory about them on channel4 (uk) you wouldnt want anything to do with them.


i for example read somewhere that the NHS service in this country is corrupt you wont believe. they always complaining about of having shortage of money and that. but thats lie. they make more money than they spend on the services. like the car parking system in hospitals are not free. so they were saying like Ealing hospital (west london, UK) they make more money from the car park than they spend on the hospital service.


all im trying to say is. there is no government in this world that are corrupt free. even Saudi arabia, the lsharia abiding "shiekhs" they are as corrupt as somalia, UK, USA, Canada and India.


their countries are working well and doing well because their people are willing to change and willing to make a better future for themselves.


i mean for example why would AY and the TFG bother me, if i can get a nice job in somalia. and make a decent living. and if everybody think like that then. the corruption will go away soon or laer. and even if our government are corrupt that dont mean allah will ask us. just live your life and leave the politics to the people that know.


over all the main issue somalia is having is that. every single somali person. young, old girl boy. wmen men, disabled mand and sane. all want to be a leader.walahi is true. every single somali thinks his/she's the next president of somalia.


that aint going to work leave politics to the people that know. if AY is Xabahss friend? why should we care? as long as he didnt had to bring the xabahss in somalia? but i dont blame him walahi, and its not because his mj and im mj. but these southerns have turn the whole world against them.


xabashs werent even in the country when AY tried to go to baydabio in 2004/5 and they started to go against him. damn! you give the person a chance. they made him do that. they not very smart people. the people that they kill, get killed, and burn their houses are the same people. look at the bigger picture people. corrupted government is better no government

[great-legend]

Surrender That is true
but hawiye dowlad ma rabaane maxaa talaa
madaxaa laga garaaci doonaye iskada

Dawlad maxaa wayee?
TFG=Arsidoon.

waxaasi waa waxa hutu ay aminsan yihiin waxayna donayaan in ay waligood xaaranta ku nolaadan

[The_Patriot]

So basicaly your arguement is you want a govt that exterminates its own people using its neighbourly country.

[great-legend]

Mah maah ayaa tidhaada
Cadowgaaga cadowgii waa sxbkaa
so xabash today is my friend
but tomrrow i will bring another caqli

[The_Patriot]

[quote="great-legend"]Mah maah ayaa tidhaada
Cadowgaaga cadowgii waa sxbkaa
so xabash today is my friend
but tomrrow i will bring another caqli[/quote]

Xabashidha iyo damerka odhaa udow bey cunaan.

[Aliyah99]

A government that fails to protect it's own citizens, a government that it at war with it's own citizens a government that is incapable/unwilling to form institutions to serve its people properly
=TFG and that is worse imo than no government.

[Enlightened~Sista]

Well put eyesonly

No government is better than bad government..problems come from a centralised form of government..what Somalis need is self government..a federal form of government...co operation amongst the tribes..self determination for tribes. We can conduct our own affairs without the need for salaried politicians.

[Anab]

Why do u all care?? None of u r patriotic enough to go to somalia and fight for it.I hate PC nationalists.


Besides its very typical of u all, the daroods --are for the arguement --bad governement is better than no government.

The none daroods-meaning--no affiliation with abdulahi yusuf clan will argue for no government is better bad government. None of u think rationally or put SOMALIA first.Try this exercise---think of SOMALIA before your political/qabil affiliations- and then ask yourself--what can i do for my country?

[gurey25]

no government is better than bad government..

[surrender]

I hate PCnationalists

[Somali_4Life]

no government is better than bad government..

Puppet selfstyled goverment cannot be called a bad goverment.