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Btw I was not being so ridiculous arrogant or fortuitous to imply that Marehan and Habar Gidir cannot overcome the conflict of nature---as I am observing "Galmudug" very closely and do believe the jury is still out with this maamul being the first shared and internally droven "governance system" implicating them (among other Mudug groups---but my intent was juxtaposition to contextualize the Marehan and Ogaden Jubbaland "conflict" is political and "man-created" vs a conflict imposed by "nature."

The impediment to a Marehan and Ogaden "settlement " in Jubbaland is extremely overestimated.
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Gubbet wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:18 pm Applying the interesting understanding of somali conflict metamorphosis that I have gained from looking at a long timespan im Somali history, I would describe Hassan Sheikh as the least powerful or "impactful" Somali national leader since 1991.

He is in a LESS powerful and impactful position than ABDIQASIM and Arta.

Hassan Sheikh sort of represents, most closest to Abdiqasim and Arta, "rule from Xamar" reflected outwardly.

It is incredibly weak and unimpactful rule.

Very, very, very ironically this is why conversely Siad Barre and Farmaajo were very "powerful" rule---

----they were the power of the perimeter reflected from the center.

As opposed to a center without power to reflect in the perimeter.


It is like aiming a flashlight at the sky (HSM) and aiming a flashlight down at the ground (Farmajo).

Hassan Sheikh is weak and even worse---he is incredibly dysfunctional.

This is an uneventful period for Marehan besides just HSM showing.once again why anti-Marehan Salbalaar government failed in the early 1990's.

Hawiye kept Marehan close because of Marehan's teeth.

Hawiye will end up being the most negatively impacted by the KDF entrance in Somalia of the recent years for the grave strategic blunder that caused them to "forget" why they went from attacking Marehan everywhere to keeping them "close."

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Gubbet isnt that just ur darood bias talking u do know at this particular time there isnst a conflict between marexaan and habergedir in galmudug. or is there a conflict , but we here daily about gedo bombardments and killings and that ogaden under the command of madoobe confiscate marexaan houses assets and bussines in kismayo. U believe conflict with hg cant be resolved but believe conflict with ogaden can be resolved because u share a mythical ancestor. oke
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Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:51 am Gubbet isnt that just ur darood bias talking u do know at this particular time there isnst a conflict between marexaan and habergedir in galmudug. or is there a conflict , but we here daily about gedo bombardments and killings and that ogaden under the command of madoobe confiscate marexaan houses assets and bussines in kismayo. U believe conflict with hg cant be resolved but believe conflict with ogaden can be resolved because u share a mythical ancestor. oke
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The clannist so called government of Hassan Sheikh plan is easily seen. The real target here is the oil blocks outside lower shabbelle. They want to incorporate lower shabbelle in a new benadir state while making south west and Gedo in turmoil and focusing on each other. This will give both Madoobe and Hassan Sheikh space the coming years while effect negative on Gedo and South West
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GuleedWarsame wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:38 am The clannist so called government of Hassan Sheikh plan is easily seen. The real target here is the oil blocks outside lower shabbelle. They want to incorporate lower shabbelle in a new benadir state while making south west and Gedo in turmoil and focusing on each other. This will give both Madoobe and Hassan Sheikh space the coming years while effect negative on Gedo and South West
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Khalid......these guys are mad.
Hsm is not interested in Gedo at all....why would he?
There is nothing there of strategic value or interest.
It's full of feuding clans, terrorists, idps, bandits, foreign troops etc.

I don't know if these people are attention seekers.
Now uncle Farmaajo has been vanquished they have nothing to talk about.
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original dervish wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:17 am Khalid......these guys are mad.
Hsm is not interested in Gedo at all....why would he?
There is nothing there of strategic value or interest.
It's full of feuding clans, terrorists, idps, bandits, foreign troops etc.

I don't know if these people are attention seekers.
Now uncle Farmaajo has been vanquished they have nothing to talk about.

We don’t need Farmaajo. But what we see us being targeted. Cool. Don’t cry when shit gets real. You the ones doing niiko for our opps.
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Brah......you've been offered the hand of friendship.
You would rather ally with the hagites.....look where that has got you.

It's not too late......reconcile with OGs.
What are you afraid of?
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original dervish wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:55 am Brah......you've been offered the hand of friendship.
You would rather ally with the hagites.....look where that has got you.

It's not too late......reconcile with OGs.
What are you afraid of?

We stand alone that’s why we’re big brother. Tell that to the Bashir Mohamed’s family. Farmaajo is gone. And Harti in Puntland have no security guarantee from HAG. Gran Giuba isn’t complete without us:

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Khalid Ali wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 4:45 amwhat
Exactly

Now go reread your response to my answer
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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:40 am
original dervish wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 11:17 am Khalid......these guys are mad.
Hsm is not interested in Gedo at all....why would he?
There is nothing there of strategic value or interest.
It's full of feuding clans, terrorists, idps, bandits, foreign troops etc.

I don't know if these people are attention seekers.
Now uncle Farmaajo has been vanquished they have nothing to talk about.

We don’t need Farmaajo. But what we see us being targeted. Cool. Don’t cry when shit gets real. You the ones doing niiko for our opps.
He is bipolar.

I don't claim to be a medical expert, but I know the symptoms.

Read his comments about Hassan Sh and you realize OD is bipolar.
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GuleedWarsame wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:38 am The clannist so called government of Hassan Sheikh plan is easily seen. The real target here is the oil blocks outside lower shabbelle. They want to incorporate lower shabbelle in a new benadir state while making south west and Gedo in turmoil and focusing on each other. This will give both Madoobe and Hassan Sheikh space the coming years while effect negative on Gedo and South West
Lower Shabelle was always historically linked to Banadir. It has never been connected with Bay and Bakool. This gov is just correcting its past misstakes.
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