arabman, are these saudis martyrs or murderers?

[musika man]

[quote="Phd in naago kudis"]musica man the american flag lover

do you respect american homosexuals to?[/quote]

^^^

are you a homosexual? fok fags, i hate them.
this thread is not about ur gay lifestyle, it is about wahabi suicide bombing of shiat iraks politics.

[Phd in naago kudis]

are you a homosexual? fok fags, i hate them.
this thread is not about ur gay lifestyle, it is about wahabi suicide bombing of shiat iraks politics.

says the shaanshi bastert who loves america and what it stands for

america loves gays

america hates islam

you are always against mujhaad arabman

you fockin american flag waving shaanshi bastert

[musika man]

^^^^

go with ur brother arab to baghdad and blew urselves up. kill 300 shiats. join his wahabi war against infidel shiats. typical lamagodley intellect who see the world as white and black. violence attracts lamagodleys. go and join.

[*Arabman]

www.iran-press-service.com

Iran Press Service is an independent, private news gathering and disseminating service based in Paris, France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Press_Service

Just like Sudan Tribune. Each disseminates rumors, lies, concoctions, Western anti-Islam/Muslim propaganda, etc.

[musika man]

^^^^

arab dude you are a typical lamagodley, where do ur sources come from? alzawahiri and binladen videos? every1 knows there are saudi suicide bombers intent only to killing and destroying shiats in irak. they do so cause of saudia fatwas passed by saudia sheikhs and sponsored by the saudia government. you are the exception, who didn't understand it. also i presented both saudi wahabi, arab sunni and shiats admitting it. now if there was no saudia wahabi inflamed divission in irak, tell us what is going on? it is mentioned and debated in islamonline, are they secularist muslims aka non wahabis?

http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/ ... 8&tstart=0

www.islamonline.net/discussione/thread. ... 9&tstart=0

why can't the saudis go to palestine and blow themselves up? the saudis are the real zionists.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"There are occupiers who disguise as insurgents, carry out attacks, and then blame the insurgents. The occupiers also plant bombs, detonate it from a safe distance, and then blame the insurgents. Why? Of course, it's in their interest to demonize the insurgents. The occupiers also have a grip on the media and manipulate news/reports that come from Iraq. The martyrs do not target civilians; they target occupiers and collaborators."

You believe this? You really are living in a fantasy world.

[*Arabman]

http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/ ... 8&tstart=0

www.islamonline.net/discussione/thread. ... 9&tstart=0


The above 2 links were posted in the forum section of Islamonline.net. It weren't posted in the News section. Therefore, both aren't news, reports, commentary, analysis, etc. Both are topics posted by the same individual. There's no response for the first topic, whereas there's a single comment in the second. What's expressed in those topics doesn't reflect the news, reports, commentary, analysis, etc found on Islamonline.net.

[You believe this? You really are living in a fantasy world.]

That's what most Muslims (sans the apologists) believe. What they believe isn't fantasy; it's the reality. You, I and others know that.

[*jr]

Do little; we have no Arabman as concience....he has no comfidence and conciquence....we have men here that want to local useless

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"That's what most Muslims (sans the apologists) believe. What they believe isn't fantasy; it's the reality. You, I and others know that."

No it's fantasy. You simply can not be self-critical. You have a world view that is absolutist. You are intellectually dishonest.

[*Arabman]

[You simply can not be self-critical.]

Being self-critical from an American/European perspective is tantamount to being apologist. Why would a Muslim want to be apologist?

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

You can be self-critical without being an apologist. For example, I have been critical of a number of US foreign policy actions. I did not approve of the war on Iraq for example. Doesn't mean I am an apologist for Saddam Hussein. I did not approve of the US withdrawal from Somalia. Doesn't mean I was an apologist for Aideed. I do not approve of rape, doesn't mean I am an apologist for feminist dogma.

[*Arabman]

[You can be self-critical without being an apologist. For example, I have been critical of a number of US foreign policy actions. I did not approve of the war on Iraq for example. Doesn't mean I am an apologist for Saddam Hussein. I did not approve of the US withdrawal from Somalia. Doesn't mean I was an apologist for Aideed. I do not approve of rape, doesn't mean I am an apologist for feminist dogma.]

You're a paid employee of the institution that's wrecking havoc in Iraq and many parts of the Muslim world. That institution puts food on your table, provides shelter and health care for you, pension, etc. It's highly doubtful your disagreements with that institution amounts to anything. Just like Colin Powell, one of the architects of the invasion/occupation of Iraq who "convincingly" presented at the UN the damning evidence that found Iraq guilty, and later claimed he opposed the invasion/occupation of Iraq. You're right, you're not an apologist; you're part of the very outfit that's wrecking havoc in many parts of the Muslim world.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Actually I am retired from that institution. But, the Muslim world deserves it. Doesn't it now?

When you fockers stop threatening US interests, the US Army will stop focking up your countries. Pretty simple really.

[*Arabman]

[When you fockers stop threatening US interests, the US Army will stop focking up your countries. Pretty simple really.]

No, it's not pretty simple. America naively started a clash of civilization against Islam. Now that America is bankrupt and gradually becoming weak, its influence, politically, militarily and economically are waning. For several years, it has struggled to defeat insurgencies far weaker than it. America has become a laughing stock paper empire. It underestimated the sleeping giant of Islam.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Islam isn't a sleeping giant. It is a bankrupt ideology in its death throes.

Do you think if American power wanes that will make a difference? Of course it won't. As America's relative power declines (as it most assuredly will) the OBVIOUS states who's power will increase our India, China, Russia, and economically the EU as a block will remain important. None of these political entities is anything other than hostile to political Islam. Some of the entities disagree with how the US is exercising its power in the fight against political Islam, but none are supportive of political Islam.

The reason political Islam has no future is the same reason that Communism had no future. It's repressive. People fundamentally don't like being told what to do, and political Islam is all about telling people what to do.