The Yibir Curse

[Madmadoobe]

^ Its not begging, they show up after a child is born and ask for money or threaten to curse you. When you ask them what exactly is going to happen, they come up with a load of shitt like snakes sneaking in to your bedrooms in the middle of the night, eat the newborn, and fuk you up , its true wallahi I have seen them do that.

[PosH]

It was a form of begging because most of them were really poor. I doubt they believed in their "powers"..They just needed the money.

[James Dahl]

It's supposed to be Diyyat that every Somali owes the Yibir for the death of their king and ancestor, Boqor Mohammed Bin Haniif "Bur Ba'ayr".

[Password]

To understand this community, read from the horse's mouth, a Yibir prefessor who teaches in one of New Jersay Universities. He wrote a book called "The Yibir of laasbuurgabo", his name is Mohamed Geldon, very good book and touching.

You can find the book in Somali Halal foods and at Money Transfer companies. It is written in English.

[Cadeey]

Pardon me, I was told Yabir are descendent of Jews Have I been mislead?

[COSTA]

[quote="Cadeey"]Pardon me, I was told Yabir are descendent of Jews Have I been mislead?[/quote]

No they are Hawaadles long lost cousins

[COSTA]

Thats shirk only Allah knows how your child will be in the future

[Cadeey]

I must have mentioned they are good looking right lol

[Unclebin-]

I know a yibir guy who hoodwinked a jewish group into thinking he was a minority jewish people in Somalia by stating the similarities between hebrew and yibir.

This man got mad doe wallahi.

I heard he wears there little hat when he goes into the synagogue.

[Hyperactive]

wali gey khora fat kan ma maglin.
A'oodubillah, dadkan so muslim ma aha.
Every one responsible what they have done, no one responsible what thein forefathers have done, wa hadey waxan run tahay, oma maley nayo in wah jiro tahay.

[AbdiWahab252]

The Yibir guy gave me a amulet (xersi) to ward off evil and did a fa'al reading.

He was a decent man and we paid the diya.

[X.Playa]

Abdiwahaab,

Let me give you a better version of history, aside from the cave that was closed on Bucur Bacayr which caused the end of his life, his killer was most likely a somali , there are tow schools of history on the origin of Yuusuf Aw Barkhadle, one depict Yuusuf Al Kawnayn as some foreign non somali mullah and the other which is more reliable regard him as a somali Mullah.

The oldest Somali record mainly the oral history argue that Yuusuf Aw Barkhadle was a somali from the Ciidagale clan, also the oldest western refernce to Yuusuf Aw Barkhadle mainly the author of "Memior Of Western idoor Tribes" 1842 refer to him as " The great Garxajis saint".

Also his shrine near Hargaysa was built by Garxajis in early 1700 and in 1932 it was renevoted by 2 men both Garxajis,furthermore his shrine keeper for the past 300 years was Ciidagale.Also the Ciidagale in some of their potery such as Qawdhuaan Ducaale sultaan in more then one occasion claimed him to be among his ancestor.

One fact above all the negate his foreign origin is the fact that Yuusuf Al Kawaynayn was the first poineer in written somali , his " alif la kor dhabay, alif la hos dhabay" was the oldest form of Somali reading the Quraan.

There are sections of the Habar Gidir who trace their maternal ansestors to Yussuf's daughter if memory serves me well its among the Sacad,.

There is no such a curse , it just a merer compensations, the Yibir after the killing of Bucur Bacayr were asked by Yuusuf if they wanted to take an immdeiate one compensations or a foerver one, and they chose the later , henece every male Somali child's parent pay to the yibir the so called "samaayo" a an internal 'dia'.

The puzzling part is how this compensations included and spreaded to all somalis apart form the northerns. It could be that all Somalis in lived in northern area.

[James Dahl]

Personally I doubt the Yibir were Jewish when their king was killed, since their king was named "Muhammad".
I also don't strictly speaking believe in the legend, beyond the fact that there was a Yibir king that was killed by a Somali, and that the Diyya compensation for his death is supposed to be paid by every Somali upon the birth of a boy.

[AbdiWahab252]

X.Playa,

Thank you for the history lesson. You are a very knowledgeable about Somali history. Ever considered writing a book ?

Was Yusuf a Ashraaf ?

[DawladSade]

[quote="X.Playa"]Abdiwahaab,

Let me give you a better version of history, aside from the cave that was closed on Bucur Bacayr which caused the end of his life, his killer was most likely a somali , there are tow schools of history on the origin of Yuusuf Aw Barkhadle, one depict Yuusuf Al Kawnayn as some foreign non somali mullah and the other which is more reliable regard him as a somali Mullah.

The oldest Somali record mainly the oral history argue that Yuusuf Aw Barkhadle was a somali from the Ciidagale clan, also the oldest western refernce to Yuusuf Aw Barkhadle mainly the author of "Memior Of Western idoor Tribes" 1842 refer to him as " The great Garxajis saint".

Also his shrine near Hargaysa was built by Garxajis in early 1700 and in 1932 it was renevoted by 2 men both Garxajis,furthermore his shrine keeper for the past 300 years was Ciidagale.Also the Ciidagale in some of their potery such as Qawdhuaan Ducaale sultaan in more then one occasion claimed him to be among his ancestor.

One fact above all the negate his foreign origin is the fact that Yuusuf Al Kawaynayn was the first poineer in written somali , his " alif la kor dhabay, alif la hos dhabay" was the oldest form of Somali reading the Quraan.

There are sections of the Habar Gidir who trace their maternal ansestors to Yussuf's daughter if memory serves me well its among the Sacad,.

There is no such a curse , it just a merer compensations, the Yibir after the killing of Bucur Bacayr were asked by Yuusuf if they wanted to take an immdeiate one compensations or a foerver one, and they chose the later , henece every male Somali child's parent pay to the yibir the so called "samaayo" a an internal 'dia'.

The puzzling part is how this compensations included and spreaded to all somalis apart form the northerns. It could be that all Somalis in lived in northern area.[/quote]



Pure b.s.

Wallahi waa pure b.s caadi ah.


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