What if General Aideed and USC won the war in Galkacyo ?

[Sanaagian]

For Aideed, this battle is personal. The central region is the traditional area of his Habr Gedir faction, and he is fighting to reclaim territory he sees as rightfully his. For the Marehan, the battle is over survival. Members of the faction fear a victorious Aideed would continue to sweep north into their traditional territory, and they are trying to hold the line at Gaalkacyo.
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I guess the author means it was our Majerteen survival not Marehan but it was in both interest to hold the LINE .
Lets say Aideed and USC triumphed threw Galkacyo and advanced beyond Garowe and Bosaaso very quickly ( at that time small tuulos )
And entered Sool and crushed any potential remnants there after they conquered Garowe and Galkacyo

Would USC face SNM ?

and what would the outcome be

For this we need experts to debbate
information about USC military manpower and equipment
and SNM military manpower and armoury

[Luq_Ganane]

Paidmonk get a life, and stop plageruising

[Sanaagian]

oh yeah forgot the link
AFP # source
with the marehans

---------------------------- I am not Paid wallahi #

But can you imagine a victorious USC facing SNM ?



what would the outcome be

[Somali_4Life]

What if? LOL wallahi you are daydreaming.

[Voltage]

Obviously never happened since Mareexaan broke the back of USC everywhere from Gaalkacyo to Kismaayo.

Hawiye vs. Mareexaan

Clan vs. Sub-clan

And we all see the outcome today.

[Ben Dover]

SNM had all the equipment left by the SNA, the majority of which were stationed up north. Its a no brainer.

[Sanaagian]

not just that .

but what about the Jigjiga military base and radar station.
I heard once SNM took advantage of raiding it while Ethiopias dergen was toppled in same period


But we are talking about a victorius USC

I really dont know

SNM vs USC perhaps USC would win if they managed to rally the remnants of harti and marexan as hired soldiers for them plus their regular army .

[Gedo_Boy]

they couldn't control the South how could they even get to the North.

You would be fighting in Isaaq territory w/ Hartis too.....


It was SNM themselves that provided Caydiid all those weapons in the South.

[AbdiWahab252]

The USC won Galkacyo at the end of the day.

If the USC had additionally captured Bosaso, it would have been game over for Darood as a whole.

SNM did not aggressively deal with its Darood enemies like the USC. It adopted them and allowed them 7 years of peace before they become part of Beentaland. But if the SNM had moved in and karbashed the Darood and made their way to Bari, there would have been no Beentaland

Voltage:

If breaking the back means, being pursued into Qaxootinimo along with Jalle Siyaad

The war was over and mission accomplished once Siyaad was living in qaxootinimo.


GEDOBOY,

The USC bought most of its weapons from khat addicted Marexan officers who sold them to support themselves as the government was bankrupt in middle 1990.

[Fale]

What if


Aduunyooy xaalkaa ba'

[Somalistan]

USC= all Hawiye tribes. When it marched Northword= Habar gidir only movement.

The real USC which we all witnessed its power and ability were the ones who crushed the red berets in Muqdisho within 2 weeks. And then crushed the darood 'rogaal celin' in Afgooye and chased them all the way to the Kenyan border.

When Merehan folks claim they fought agains the USC in 1993, they should know that Caydiid and his USC were fighting in Xamar against the U.S Unisom operations in Somalia. The USC by the time any other factions such SNF were created disolved into many fragments within itself.

The truth USC only existed from the chasing of Siyad Barre out of the country, from that point on, they turned onto themselves. IF they had stayed united throughout, it's obvious there were no force to stand on its way for them to be the supreme rulers of Somalia. But they didn't. They devasted themselves when Abgal vs. Habargidir broke out...and thing went south from that point on.

The SNM on the other was more savvy politically and smarter. Instead of focking up the Gadabursi and Harti in the North, they chose to work things out in more peaceful manner, as soon as they liberated their land, they held a grand conference in Buroe which its outcome we all cherish today.

So USC vs. SNM, I say the SNM won for itself and for its people. USC won only to lose what it had won.

[Sanaagian]

Gedo this is how I see the situation

Majerteen is the big wolf of Harti
Majerteenia was in dire need of military assistance from Marexan against USC wich would have destroyed them completely .
So its in the interest of Marexan to do something so they wont become the next target for USC .
In this scenario Marexan and Majerteen lost .

And honestly whats Harti without Majerteens ?
dont you think USC would exsterminate the small dhulos and warsans as well ?

Its then they would face SNM

what would the outcome be

lets say both have been preparing for long time after USC won the great Mudug war and conquered the rest .

[Luq_Ganane]

The USC advance was stopped at Galkacyo by SNF. If he succeeded in Galkacyo he would have went furthur up North and Nugaal and Bari would fall. I think his plan after that was to ally with Issaqs and rule the country. Luckilly the advance was stopped in Galkacyo and the other areas in Somalia that the USC captured were taken by SNF. I guess it was Allahs will that Somalia didn't end up being ruled by USC with Caydid as president. We'll take the anarchy.

[Gedo_Boy]

Aw252,

With the Govt. collapsing, everything was in flux and nobody knew what was happening or what to expect........so don't look at transient effects. Look at steady state.

Look at what happened once everybody regrouped.

[Somalistan]

No one defeated the USC but themselves.

They had no political vision at all, Caydiid had, but that stup1d Ali Mahdi focked the game and look at him licking darood boots again. What an ass.