Military topic of the Year ( PLAN 2009 Liberate Somalia )

[Wild-Warrior]

I want to smoke some of what this guys is smoking. Why do you want to go to Addis ababa to begin with?

[MinionsJSL]

a move towards Dire Dawe with a occupation of their radar station and cut of supply from the railway system would be a devastating blow.

Addis and Dire Dawe = key of liberation of South Somalia

We have the potential
I bet all the rebel armies combined in Ethiopia could not match Somaliland
imagine Somaliland+PL+Diaspora+ South Somalia

[The_Patriot]

minion
Addis ababa is nothing.
Diredawa is.
When Alitixad were closing on Diredawa in the late 90's.
The Xabashi called for SOS.
At that time mind you it was Ethio+Eritrea agaisnt Alitixad.

[MinionsJSL]

I disagree Addis Abeba is everything

[The_Patriot]

Minion then you dont know your Enemy.

Keep your freinds close and your enemies closer.

[galia]

MinionsJSL, your idea ain't bad but it has flows.

There is no point of risking the somali forces with one mission.

We need to confuse these ethiopians and make their occupation difficult. we need to hold our fist until the right time.

We must strike at a crital time, for the time being we need to concentrate our efforts on liberating southern somalia, after that we could use Mogadishio port to bring heavy weapons and armour.

Mogadishio is the key for somalia to be free, however the rest of the somali liberation forces need to fight all over somalia to spread the ethiopian forces, we also need our Ogaden brothers to increase their actvity in Ogaden and to benefit from the strecthed ethiopian army.

We also need to work with the Oromo libearation movement and help them become more active, they could also use Somalia as a training camps as well.

[Shirib]

Minion good plan

and to ur first question, adeer Indha'ade was a tuug, a mooryaan, and a jaajuus who was with them the whole time and sold the ICU out.

[MinionsJSL]

galia Ethiopia is backed by the West and can probably stay in Somalia from as little as 10 - to 30 years .
financially nothing can hurt them the occupation is secured with foreign money.
militarily its oromos ..and lots of them.

mogadishu is irrelevant
how can we support a rebelion army in our occupied country to find safe haven and training?

Lets do what Ahmed Gurey did and spear them in their heart
forget the confusion and hiding

lets take the battle directly to Addis

[galia]

[quote="MinionsJSL"]galia Ethiopia is backed by the West and can probably stay in Somalia from as little as 10 - to 30 years .
financially nothing can hurt them the occupation is secured with foreign money.
militarily its oromos ..and lots of them.

mogadishu is irrelevant
how can we support a rebelion army in our occupied country to find safe haven and training?

Lets do what Ahmed Gurey did and spear them in their heart
forget the confusion and hiding

lets take the battle directly to Addis[/quote]

Walahi you have a point there, however i think your plan need's the somalis to be based in another country, just like the Darfur rebellions were based in chad and were armed in Chad and quickly went to Khartoum.

We need to do what Eritrea did to the Derg in the 80s, we need to help and work with the Oromos, Ogadens etc and in the same time conduct our own militry plans.

Making it difficult and very expensive for the ethiopian army, as they would first need to fight in Oromia and ogaden itself before they could even bring their supplies to somalia and actually fight the somali's themselves.

The somalis need to build ther militry capacity and forces whilst we use Oromia and Ogaden as a buffer zone.

We need to take towns and cities but NEVER hold them, always go back to the Bush when the ethiopians arrive.

We should only use our full mility capacity only when ethiopia is exhausted, an oppetunity could arrive in the eritrea-ethiopia war, and if eritrea hit's ethiopia hard than that would be the oppertunity to invade Ethiopia itself and liberate the rest of somalia.

[MinionsJSL]

galia how useful was the yey for the lion under the hunt ?

zero and thats the position of Ethiopian rebel armies.
a quick powerful advance towards Addis and full occupation of only one city
Dire Dawe would give us a upper hand in the battle.
Beside if the americans get involved Somaliland topography wont help our guerilla warfare very much and its ten times better than southern bush territory...

in less than 72 hours Berbera and Bosaaso would be seized.

Once we have planted some 40 000 - 60 000 Somali soldiers ( INSIDE Addis Abeba )
we have made it and can declare coup or destroy the city.

When we control both Addis and Dire Dawe supply nothing can stop us.

[gurey25]

To do all that you need some sort of organized armed force.
and you are forgeting allot of important things like ,
geography.

the chadian rebels that attacked the capital N'djamena came from the Sudanese border across flat desert plains,
and they consisted of 1000 technicals and about 5000 men in a raid
reminecent of a a mongol ordu or a ghazawat from turkic cavalary.

Geography is not on your side when fighting ethiopia, you need to take it into acount and make it your friend, do not fight against geography.

furthermore one giant mobile sortie is not enough to take a big city
and it can only work when launched across a small distance a few hundred miles, becuase if the ethiopian airforce is alerted it would easily put a stop to it.

a massed grouping of technicals is extremely vulnerable to artillary fire and even airraids, this is becuase they are soft skinned.
Airpower is ineffective if you dont have the proper comman, control and communications and observation capabilities.
The ethiopian airforce would be of little use against a modern armoured brigade, but will easily devastate anything else.

and besides they could always recieve external aid , i.e american sattellite and aerial recon, as well as intel.




you cannot look at strategy or tactics without linking them broadly to
political movement, they are all interlinked.

Somalia requires a politcal solution before a millitary solution.

[Executive]

I like the Idea. Not long ago I had a dream that Meles was kidnapped and killed in Somalia.

[xoogSADE14]

Somalia requires a politcal solution before a millitary solution.

[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

Only a Mareexaan can pull this off

[Voltage]

Excellent topic. I will come back to this.