You Cannot Rebel Against The Muslim Ruler.....

[Murax]

As long as He prays. This is the fiqh of Ahulus Sunnah


Tyrannical rulers in the Muslim world cannot be fought against even if they take Your money and whip Your back

I'll produce the Hadith a little later.

[hanad_mn]

that is only if he rules according to allaah sharci. Cabdullaahi Yusuf hates sharciyah law and Allaah so he is Murdad and Murdad can be killed according to islaam.

[Shirib]

I think we need to burn down that Jaamaacad again, f*ckin Eelaay who told them to rebuild it after we destroyed it.

[Murax]

that is only if he rules according to allaah sharci. Cabdullaahi Yusuf hates sharciyah law and Allaah so he is Murdad and Murdad can be killed according to islaam.

When did I ever say AY? Teeda kale You just did takfir on AY which is a major sin.

Secondly if AY had control over entire Somalia today We cannot rebel against Him as long as He Prays not if He loves Sharicah law or not.

[Young Wadani *]

MSB (RA) inkaartis baa ku dhacayadii Somalia

[Spookie]

Yea right.


Caasho Yusuf will go down.

[Murax]

MSB (RA) inkaartis baa ku dhacayadii Somalia

Inadeer what was meant to happen would happen. It was Ilahay's qadr not any Man's inkaar.


Wallahi I'm not saying this out of ano qabil but the rebellion against MSB AUN is exhibit A of why the Muslim ruler shouldn't be rebelled against and a lot of scholars even use Somalia as an example. I was at a gathering recently where an Carab Sheikh used Somalia and MSB AUN as an example and even the founder of Itixaad in the late '80s but left it and who was not from MSB's clan said that hadaan iska samri lahayn kisto yar We wouldn't be in this situation.

[Shirib]

Somebody get a hold of Koronto so he can put the Jadiidi in his place

[Young Wadani *]

Murax,

Understood


But Rajo is coming, the Right Handed is coming !

Mahdiga Soomaliyeed

[Murax]

Somebody get a hold of Koronto so he can put the Jadiidi in his place

Koronto would actually agree with Me. Btw I miss that dude, wheres He at? I was in Clarkston recently.

[Shirib]

Murax

I am pretty sure that the hadith is in reference to a Muslim ruler who rules by Islam. A person who is ruling by Islamic law, as long as he prays you cannot rebel against him. This does not go for a Muslim ruler who is not ruling by Islam.

Koronto made a good bye thread, they said he was htiitn the books for his MCAT's no time to for Snet anymore, but yea, he was one of my favorites.

[Advo]

What religion are u following murax?

and what sect of that religion do u consider urself?


U telling me, if muslims had a choice and giving the chance, they should not rebel even against rulers like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk?

[gurey25]

it means that if the ruler is strong and keeps the nation powerfull and upholds the shareeca
we have not right to fight him....

if he is a dhabodileef , kufaar raac and secular all bets are off..
and if he puts on an islamic state show but still rides kufaar dik ala Saudia
same applies.

[Voltage]

I think we need to burn down that Jaamaacad again, f*ckin Eelaay who told them to rebuild it after we destroyed it.

Shirib ma Baardheeraad gubi kartaa? What do you mean burn it down again, do you think this is 1890 with two huts and 25 people living in a semi-block? Also what do you mean "f*ckin eelaay who told them to rebuilt it"...first why saying the f word against a qabiil when you claim to be a hardcore supporter of Al Shabaab and also Baardheere maanta yaa degan aad u fara baxsan kartid?

[Shirib]

I think we need to burn down that Jaamaacad again, f*ckin Eelaay who told them to rebuild it after we destroyed it.

Shirib ma Baardheeraad gubi kartaa? What do you mean burn it down again, do you think this is 1890 with two huts and 25 people living in a semi-block? Also what do you mean "f*ckin eelaay who told them to rebuilt it"...first why saying the f word against a qabiil when you claim to be a hardcore supporter of Al Shabaab and also Baardheere maanta yaa degan aad u fara baxsan kartid?

It was a joke directed at Murax, take it for what its worth.


Baardheere Jamaaca had an estimated fighting force of 20,000 men, it was no small ordeal