Homophobia

[The_Emperior5]

god made adam and eve not adam and steve

raggan futtada ka kacsada ayaan la yaaba anigu ,beenie man used to beat up those batty bois
any way here in amstedam they have gay prides but they alway get beaten up gess bye who north african middeleastere men lol maalindhowayd waxa lugu karbaashay amsterdam miid gaal uu james la yidhahu nin buu gacanta haystey qurarad khamri aah uu duulaysa aya dhakkada kaga dhacday And to morrocan boys aya bugta ka saaray

[Somaliman%]

the morrocans and middleasterners your talking about are the gayest of all.

theres properly more gays in arab countries than the west.

[The_Emperior5]

carabtu true makhaniid baddan way leeyihin siida beirut iyo sucuudiga , laakin ragg na way ka dhashaan

[Basra-]

[quote="Voltage


Science says otherwise Razzberry. Do you know the man who is the cause of homosexuality being taken off as a disorder in 1970's recently completed his latest experiment that PROVED gays can become straight? Have you ever heard of Spitzer?

:[/quote]



VOLTAGE???? I can't believe u???






Voltage r u serious, do u really, really believe gays can be turned into straight??? I mean, i am no scientist, but i know for a fact that is impossible. What you have quoted above as far the study is concerned is correct. I do not doubt these supposed 'guinea gay to straights pigs' did infact 'ABSTAIN' for sexual behavior or 'activeness' but i do not believe they stopped 'lusting' for their same sex. I agree- behaviorwise--homosexuality can be looked at as a sexual behavior-- so as heterosexualness. One abstain from sex all together, but that does not stop one from lusting for sex or their same sex or opposite gender. Voltage i thought u were a far bright marehaan but i saddened to deem myself wrong. The problem with u voltage is: u dont have a sense of 'logic' thinking. Everything has to be supported and back up with facts or pathetic sadness. Homosexuality in my estimation is a biological error. Pure and simple. There is NO gay gene-- just an imbalance of hormonal bio make ups that deem the person gay. Its like a factory---we have broken products and good products- right? To me the ONE proof that homosexuality is inherent and deep inside our complicated biology is observing a butch lesbo. They dont have a guus, they dont have beard or facial hair(well most them at least), yet they have that deep desire within to Fck a woman. I mean-- really intense fcking! I am sorry to be vulgar but i have to make a point here. Lesbo are so macho-- so i mean manly its not even funny. The drag queen men is not so much a phenomenon, because i look it as a dress up. Even their natural femininity is not so unusual or spectacular. But the butch lesbos scare me. Its a clear, undilluted, raw proof that one cannot help their sexuality. The imbalance of hormones, missing of mental screw, all contribute to this qaniisniimo phenomenon!


Voltage also--going back to the study-- the challege of Splitzer-should NOT have been to turn gays into straight but rather to reverse this supposed Bio screw up that happened.

[Voltage]

Two things in your post had me laughing for 5 minutes and I will quote both.

Voltage i thought u were a far bright marehaan but i saddened to deem myself wrong. The problem with u voltage is: u dont have a sense of 'logic' thinking. Everything has to be supported and back up with facts or pathetic sadness.

To me the ONE proof that homosexuality is inherent and deep inside our complicated biology is observing a butch lesbo. They dont have a guus, they dont have beard or facial hair(well most them at least), yet they have that deep desire within to Fck a woman.

Horta I am glad we both agree that there is no gay gene, IN FACT the man in charge of the human genome project which is mapping all our genetic codes has already announced it to the world.

I, however, dis agree with your inherent and biology connection. There is nature and there is nurture. Nature=inherent=biology=genes. Get the drift? If there is no gay gene, then there is no biological connection and homosexuality is not "inherent". Follow me?

Most scientists, being silenced right now by gay activism but will not be for long, correctly believe homosexuality is a psychological phenomenon that is caused primarily by nurture, and in that sense your environment and how you grew up.

Now look at it this way, you correctly observed a good number of lesbians have a"butch" look. You are right they don't have a guus, nor a beard, yet they have manly shoulders, big bodies, etc. Ever wondered because of that they grew up with a deep, psychological problem and never felt "feminine" and never had any guys look at them? Puberty is when adolescents reach sexual awareness, and if she never felt feminine before, ever thought she might have started getting an unnatural attraction to femininity, something she wanted to feel all this time? So infact, it is not that she is attracted to women per se but rather their femininity, the "opposite" she has been craving all this time?

This is really what a good number of the psychoanalysts are now saying.

So infact Basra, you are looking at the correct picture but not coming out with the correct observation.

As for my sense of logic and my practicing of sourcing, I am a student of acadamia Basra and acadamia is built on and supported by sound research and reference. The R & R of science, research and reference.

[Basra-]

Voltage@lol


I am glad u find amusements in my posts but i am very SERIOOOS here. Your arguements are purposefully ignorant and defiantly selective or biased. You think as a marehaan nomad as opposed to an educated mind.Your reasonings are no different from the typical cafee donut reer muduug inhabitor of the western somali hangout hemisphere.And also--DO NOT start with the Nature and Nurture arguement, that is the typical Repertoire Pseudo academia point of arguements that the clueless scientist use.I say, That is rather idiotic.(a favorite word of mine mind u--to showcase my intellect of superiority. )

I am not saying lets dismiss Nurture-- but in essense what really matters in homosexuality is the Nature. If Nature is the Biology makeup-- then thats it. Nature is the Blue print of mankind. All sorts of mankind, gays, straights, undecided. You know what i mean? Nurture plays a very small role. Nurture plays an aftermath chapter in homosexuality and heterosexuality. What i mean is- one who is born gay or straight continues in the 'Nurture' path of homosexuality- and the vise versa to the Hetero as well. My former professor is a professed Qaniis--living with his partner for 15 years.He has a biological son who is my age- a very cute masculine, very straight son who is the most open minded individual i have met.He has a girlfriend, and always harrasses me. My point is- this kid was sorrounded by queens all his life. His father is soooo feminine that its not funny. He had his son when he was a teenage--in deep denial-he slept with a girl by thinking of his galfriends brother while doing sex with her. In a moment of 2 minutes--he impregnated the girl and never again had sex with a female again.(so he tells us) My point is- if this kid believed in the arguement of 'Nurture'...he should have been gay ma ha?? And of course there is silly obvious arguement of ALL gays stemming from two straight parents-i am sure they never grew up--seeing two men or women humping--did they?So my dear Voltage throw this Nurture arguements and lets talk the mechanics of biology & Nature- shall we?

[Voltage]

Basra yours is not a scientific discussion so let me conclude by saying, the story you provided is exactly why Nature is not the cause of homosexuality. If the pops is gay, the kid woulda been gay! But the kid is not and it proves the theory that homosexuality is a psychologically affliction. Just because your mom is depressed, does that mean you are depressed too??

[Basra-]

Voltage!



Ok good point there. One score for u waryaa- saqajaan waxiid!



But ....VOLTAGE my rebuttal is-- biological is not necessarily strictly reproduction. Like another example i used--ALL gays come from two heterosexual parents--therefore-- by this assumption alone-- we can automatically derive that-- gayness does not pass through parent biological genes. That is why i say there is no gay gene. To assume a gay exists is to say- parents pass it over! Also lets go back to my 'factory theory'-- the reason i used this example is: Factories is an industry-- a machine--that produces lots of things-- things can go wrong. That's life! - As the wise Qansa would say in his/her melancholic sad realistic view of life- "sh!t happens". My argument is--in the processes of the fetus formation--something happens in the womb. Just like parents giving birth to handicaps, autistic children, deaf etc etc--something happens in the womb that makes the kid gay. Or deaf, or blind or retarded.Thats where biological error comes in, that is why i bring biology in.Its sad Voltage that your understanding of biology is pretty down right primitive.U equal Biology with reproductions.That is ONLY a minutia of it! What do u think?

[Enlightened~Sista]

Basra..how do explain the homosexuality in boarding schools..where kids as young as 7 learn to associate interact with members of the same sex untill the age of 18? for many of these kids..their first sexual encounter is with someone from the same sex.

Also what about those kids who have been abused..by paedophiles? what about women who have been abused by violent husbands/boyfriends? how can you categorically deny the effect of something that tragic..on their sexual orientation.

I remember watching this programme once..this girl was continuously raped from the age of 7 till 16 by her older sisters husband...when she came on the stage naxdin baad qaadi leeheydeen..the butchest of the butch ..she was gay and she looked very broken and depressed..i felt very sorry her.

There could very well be people who are just that way..but i believe the widespread homosexuality we see in todays society is environmental.

[Cali_Gaab]

It's Ok to be gay.
I'd rather be gay than somali.

[Enlightened~Sista]

Cali

Somaliman..i think you've watched that BBC programme..do you consider a 2 year old baby boy who hobbles along in his mother's heel shoes..as 'gay'?

It wasnt very scientifc..and its seems like John Barrowman already had his mind made up. He was also very biased. There was one experiment on that programme that was so laughable..the one that suggested John after a series of tests and observations (from his map reading) had a 'feminine' kind of brain..well there was a similar kind of experiment on The One show..with Donny Osmond..they concluded he..along with other male members had a 'feminine'' brain..yet those men are not homosexual.


John Barrowman however yelped from joy at the findings ..and decided that is all the proof he needed to stick in the faces of all those doubters.

[Basra-]

"Basra..how do explain the homosexuality in boarding schools..where kids as young as 7 learn to associate interact with members of the same sex untill the age of 18? for many of these kids..their first sexual encounter is with someone from the same sex"


Enlighten Sista--- Experimenting and actually being gay is not the same thing.I think that is why bisexuality exists. Frankly for me, i have no synpathy arguement for bisexuals. They are pathetic little self indulgent idiots who truly mess the hypnotic perception of what it is to be gay.As humans we are a curious beings- we like to experiment new things- even though we dont experiment-- we tend to imagine it in our mind. Its human nature. The same applies in Prison- men who never engaged in homo sex- do it out of desperate need. Therefore--arises the core theory of MY gay hypothesis. The pillar of my foundation of the gay arguement. In my enlightened and informed estimation, i have stated the existance of hormonal imbalance that makes female super butch and male super female is the main cause of the existance of homosexuality. I think the overall of sexuality lies in the laws of dominance and submissiveness, and all this is depended on Testosterone and astronges. Mostly Testosterone is WHAT matters. To not have sufficient Testosterone --in male is a problem. To have it in excess in female is a problem. Everything depends on this infamous hormone.


ES: to your point--in regards to the raped girl which decided her sexuality--that is a posibility--its a mental thing. Just like someone can be born clear minded and becomes crazy later.Its not an impossible thing. Someone can be born normal and in time develop schizophrenia---does this mean they were born like that? No! Its a mental block, a raped victim puts on--but i am sure with therapy---and finding a sensitive good example of a male partner-she can function. I have no doubt she is attracted to the opposite--u can't erase this fact. Have i answered your questions?

[Oxy-]

Homosexuality varies. Its not a 1 shoe fits all.

1 argument that has always existed and has found plausible backing is boys who are gay normally have an overbearing mother and an absent father.

With lesbian girls its, a detachment from her female emotion and a weak relationship with her mother.

[Basra-]

[quote="Oxy-"]Homosexuality varies. Its not a 1 shoe fits all.

1 argument that has always existed and has found plausible backing is boys who are gay normally have an overbearing mother and an absent father.

With lesbian girls its, a detachment from her female emotion and a weak relationship with her mother.[/quote]


Oxy oh please! Do not bring 1950's Eistein arguement, its archaic and primitive. The very existance of a domineering mother is a result of Testosterone imbalance in the mother-- thus depraving the child Testosterone hormones and thus the child becoming gay.As to the absentee father-thats crap. The father typically is useless in the child rearing. Its a 'plus' to have father-- for the son to have a point of reference, thats all. Mother is the root of all problems.

[Oxy-]

The very existance of a domineering mother is a result of Testosterone imbalance in the mother-- thus depraving the child Testosterone hormones and thus the child becoming gay

So why then issnt the mother gay herself?

Thats just contradictory