Sh.Sharif want peace with Ethiopia

[Twisted_Logic]

Abakar

You're right sxb. The reason why the TPLF is pulling out ahead of the announcement of the next president of the TFG is to allow Shabab (not the TFG) to takeover where ever they vacate. The cycle continues.

TL

Sxb you're right about one thng. Ethiopia has no role in the Dj conferene and thats why they're pulling out before a 'gov't of national unity' is created so as to not allow them a place to return to. Xamar is in chaos, Bay, Bakool, Gedo, Jubboyinka, & Shabeelada Hoose are under Shabab & allied groups.

Tell me, where will these fail proof government of yours be based in? Small sections of Xamar, Shabeelada Dhexe & parts of Hiiraan? How will it be different from the previous 'administrations'?

Ethiopia has no interest in seeing a united southern Somalia and Somalis aren't willing to compromise to make create a viable government that has support from all qabiils.

Somali 'leaders' would be wise to put off worrying about forming national government and focus on regional administrations like that of Puntland & Somaliland because those have a better chance of succeeding than a national government that only exists in recycled paper.

Thing is whoever controls Xamar and the surrounding areas always controls the South. If whoever wins in Jabuti can stabilize just Xamar, then ~80% of Somalia's problems are solved. The way it is looking now, chances are real that peace will finally prevail in Xamar. The initial developments and currents reality in Xamar is very encouraging and hopefully it paves the way for the ultimate stabilization of Xamar.

The people around both Nur Ade and Sh Sharif are capable and understand what they are up against and I hope they deliver and hopefully they will deliver.

[Twisted_Logic]

xoogsade, bro its time to be technical. the only group which has ever brought stability to our capital, is the islamic courts. i know they had many qaladaad, but wallahi i think they were genuine marki hore. they deserve their right to rule the capital because they done what none other had done sxb.

The Islamic Courts will be a hard pill to swallow but they can be accommodated.

The only place for Al Shabab is the grave-yard. The sooner this disease is eradicated the better.

[American-Suufi]

sheikh sharif's responsibility is only towards somali people in somalia not towards ogadens who want to build their 'dream' successionist ogadenia country. good luck to them. they r on their own.

he must establish a good working relationship with all of somalia's neighbors.

[The_Emperior5]

dawlad jabuutii lugu soo dhiso oo aan madaxweyne hawiye la soo dooran maba jiiro taarikda somaliyeed

[Twisted_Logic]

sheikh sharif's responsibility is only towards somali people in somalia not towards ogadens who want to build their 'dream' successionist ogadenia country. good luck to them. they r on their own.

he must establish a good working relationship with all of somalia's neighbors.

Well said. But we should be careful not to ignore the prosecution of the Somali groups in Western Somalia.

[Twisted_Logic]

dawlad jabuutii lugu soo dhiso oo aan madaxweyne hawiye la soo dooran maba jiiro taarikda somaliyeed

Issa=Abgaal

[xoogSADE14]

TL

Sxb your people's biggest blunder was to equate Xamar with Somalia (south or all of it). Its true Xamar is an important part of Somalia but the south can and has done ok without having any connections with Xamar.

Its my sincere hope that Sharif & Cade deliver peace to the people of Xamar. With that said, we both know they don't have my interests at heart so I have no incentive to support them.

[American-Suufi]

sheikh sharif's responsibility is only towards somali people in somalia not towards ogadens who want to build their 'dream' successionist ogadenia country. good luck to them. they r on their own.

he must establish a good working relationship with all of somalia's neighbors.

Well said. But we should be careful not to ignore the prosecution of the Somali groups in Western Somalia.

why didn't sgt turki or kurdi who was born in western somalia take his militia 'khalid bin walid' from lower jubba to western somalia and fight the woyans? these ogaden dudes and alshabab can't fight the ethiopians but r ready to fight and destroy somalis at all times. i care for those who only care about somalis in somalia.

[Twisted_Logic]

TL

Sxb your people's biggest blunder was to equate Xamar with Somalia (south or all of it). Its true Xamar is an important part of Somalia but the south can and has done ok without having any connections with Xamar.

Its my sincere hope that Sharif & Cade deliver peace to the people of Xamar. With that said, we both know they don't have my interests at heart so I have no incentive to support them.

On an individual level, you don't have to support them. But the ground reality is different.

[Twisted_Logic]

sheikh sharif's responsibility is only towards somali people in somalia not towards ogadens who want to build their 'dream' successionist ogadenia country. good luck to them. they r on their own.

he must establish a good working relationship with all of somalia's neighbors.

Well said. But we should be careful not to ignore the prosecution of the Somali groups in Western Somalia.

why didn't sgt turki or kurdi who was born in western somalia take his militia 'khalid bin walid' from lower jubba to western somalia and fight the woyans? these ogaden dudes and alshabab can't fight the ethiopians but r ready to fight and destroy somalis at all times. i care for those who only care about somalis in somalia.

I don't disagree with you Bro. I have been saying the same thing for awhile now.

[xoogSADE14]

TL

Sxb i'm afraid even the reality is against Shariif & Co. They have no forces, don't control any deegaans worth mentioning and even worse Maxamed Dhere is on his way to Ethiopia to be armed and takeover Xamar & Shabeelada Dhexe.

Hadeey dawlad dalka dibadiisa lagu soo dhisay shaqeeyneeyso, kuwii ka horeeyay oo kana xooga badnaa baa shaqeeyn lahaa.

[Twisted_Logic]

TL

Sxb i'm afraid even the reality is against Shariif & Co. They have no forces, don't control any deegaans worth mentioning and even worse Maxamed Dhere is on his way to Ethiopia to be armed and takeover Xamar & Shabeelada Dhexe.

Hadeey dawlad dalka dibadiisa lagu soo dhisay shaqeeyneeyso, kuwii ka horeeyay oo kana xooga badnaa baa shaqeeyn lahaa.

We are both evidently grown men. Please let's put the conspiracy theories aside. Sh Sharif and Nur Ade do have men on the ground in Xamar. They are called UIC troops and the TFG militias respectively and they are led by Sh Cali Cumar and Sh Caddow.

Mohamed Dhere is history as are all the warlords. No-one is going to let Mohamed Dhere get back into Xamar or Middle Shebelle and destabilize the peace-process. He has neither the means nor the support to do such a task.

[xoogSADE14]

Mohamed Dhere is history as are all the warlords. No-one is going to let Mohamed Dhere get back into Xamar or Middle Shebelle and destabilize the peace-process. He has neither the means nor the support to do such a task.

lool

I could tell you things will be much different in a few months but you would just say that I was dealing in conspiracy theories. Instead, I'll just leave you with these simple words.

Waanu arki doonaa sxb.

[Twisted_Logic]

Mohamed Dhere is history as are all the warlords. No-one is going to let Mohamed Dhere get back into Xamar or Middle Shebelle and destabilize the peace-process. He has neither the means nor the support to do such a task.

lool

I could tell you things will be much different in a few months but you would just say that I was dealing in conspiracy theories. Instead, I'll just leave you with these simple words.

Waanu arki doonaa sxb.

I hope you open a thread on this topic in few months

[xoogSADE14]

I'm not one to boast so remind me if I forget sxb.

Shoot me a pm or something.