Puntland government warns Shariif's TFG

[Abdi-Halim]

Abdisamad it was puntland that created the welfare system first and u know that, they simply copied it. So why you ignore to mention that? secondly puntland is peace and has law and order. Do you see ppl killing each other? sure their is few skermishes but it is quickly defused by the isimo!!!

Marka sxb Puntland has western allies yes, because somaliya is battle-field. The wadaad u proudly support are being supported by eritrea with arms and arab donor money and foreign soldiers. Marka for the survival of our ppl we must also use foreign support to meet this ever-changing somaliya political landscape or be killed.

Puntland is working for its ppl and has peace and law and order, why the fuck u wanna ruin that by supporting these wadaads in the south, who only copy puntland in it's policies anyways. U never heard of shabab doing welfare till puntland introduced it and u know that. So if puntland didn't exist i doubt they would've of even done this.

[surrender]

all that (releted to the pirates) could be sorted out, i mean if puntland gives them the security, the assurance that its their job as pirates to safe guard our waters, whatever they get, in retur will be given salery from and the rest goes back to the state! but the real tuugo are the TFG, they've taken all the Aid money that was supposed to go to the innocent, poor civilians of somalia, they have done more damage than any other group, i cant believe there are people that actually SUPPORT this group.

can anyone tell me one good thing they have achieved so far? just one!

[gemini07]

Tuugta TFG iyo Al-Shabaab dhexdooda baa fadhinaa

[abdisamad3]

Abdisamad it was puntland that created the welfare system first and u know that, they simply copied it. So why you ignore to mention that? secondly puntland is peace and has law and order. Do you see ppl killing each other? sure their is few skermishes but it is quickly defused by the isimo!!!

Marka sxb Puntland has western allies yes, because somaliya is battle-field. The wadaad u proudly support are being supported by eritrea with arms and arab donor money and foreign soldiers. Marka for the survival of our ppl we must also use foreign support to meet this ever-changing somaliya political landscape or be killed.

Puntland is working for its ppl and has peace and law and order, why the fuck u wanna ruin that by supporting these wadaads in the south, who only copy puntland in it's policies anyways. U never heard of shabab doing welfare till puntland introduced it and u know that. So if puntland didn't exist i doubt they would've of even done this.

just for not long ago a puntland minister was killed and what about the tabliiq sheikhs who where killed at the masjid..and then you have the pirates..and many other issues..anyway the place is peacefull compared to other regions in Somalia..and Puntland state is not based on the islamic shariica..

[abdisamad3]

why the fuck u wanna ruin that by supporting these wadaads in the south, who only copy puntland in it's policies anyways. U never heard of shabab doing welfare till puntland introduced it and u know that. So if puntland didn't exist i doubt they would've of even done this.

I support the mujahedeen becouse they where the only one who defended and died for the country when the xabashi enemy invaded our country back in 2006..
before that I use to be pro goverment..but when that cabdullahi yusuf brought filthy ethiopian who is and has always been an enemy of the Somali people..I took my support back..anyway the last part about al-shabaab copying Puntland is bullshit..anyway Iam sure al-shabaab is not going to attack Puntland..they are busy in muqdisho once they take over muqdisho iam sure the puntland culamaa/sheekhiin/imaams can make a deal with the mujahedeen with out bloodshed...

[abdalla11]

Jihad is fard/obligatory to all of us,the objective must be that Laa illaah illa allah to bcome the highest as the prophet said in a saxiix xadiis. So the objetive must not be a political one or even worse a qabiil based one. but jihad. As all obligations like the salaah,the jihad has his own conditions and if u Don'follow those conditions would be baseless and useless. The two main conditions are the permission f the amiir and the permission of the parents (especailly the mother)

We have all seen alot of mothers who are shocked by hearing that their sons joined alshabaab. That shows that the mothers even didn't know about it nor did they give a permession.
Once a youngman came to the prophet, because he wanted to do jihad with him. So the prophet asked him:'Do you have a mother, they youngman repleid: 'No'. The prophet asked him do you have an aunt, he said yes. The prophet said to him :'Go to her she will be your Jihad" i.e struggle.

Maybe alshabaab is wrong on political position but they are definitely wrong from an islamic point of view

Besides ask just look at the history is these 'wadaads'. They were honored and welcomed in Bosaso in 1992 by the locals and the elders.
Those times they called them selfs 'Itixaad' thei leader was Xasan Daahir aweys and the MJ sheikh A/qaadir Gacamey. When the locals heard about that USC was heading to Gaalkacyo, they wanted to defend them self, but those wadaads wanted to give Caydiid a free entrance to gaalkacyo and Bosaaso. To keep the locals from defending themself against USC the wadaads captured 50 odayaal, including AY, islaan cabdulle and many others. Why would they do that? they were already given support and the keys of all affairs? Well Xasan daahir and Caydiid share one thing, guess what?

As for the co-director of itixaad, Gacamey. He said during the IUC: Yaanu been isku sheekin, waxa xamar ka socda ba'ahan Jihaad! And he knows their goals better than us as he worked with them for many years, like 20 years.

The biggest (political) advisor of Xassan daahir aweys is the biggest qabiilist: Cabdiqaasim salaad.

[abdisamad3]

^^^^you must be high on some bad khat..lol..aweeys is not al-shabaab member..he is only allied with them..he hasnt any power..in other words he is just a cheerleader for the shabaab..and if he tries anything he will be sent to jail..

[The Nomad]

Abdi-samad...tell me one good thing shabab has built for kismayo or baydhabo? when u can tell me that, this will be appreciated. Secondly, puntland constitution is based on islam, the courts there use shari'ah...marka what u mean u want the shariah in the land, when it is already there? marka ujeeda kale !!baad lee dahay sxb!!!

Don't be stupid. Kismayo has a functioning administration, it's residents report that there is 100% security and the economy is booming compared to pre-Shabab Kismayo. It is a utopia.

Puntland currently uses diluted Sharia, it must be used in every facet of life. No compromise, if not Shabab will invade, insha'allah.

[Abdi-Halim]

It is quite funny u love to support distant sheikhs, yet have no clue that puntland has it'z sheikh that actually do charitable work for the ppl. They build religious learning schools, participate in helping the displaced ppl with food and clothes. Organizations like somali relief aid and nasrullahi and samafal.f

But u r more adamant to support crazy ass sheikh in hamar who is destroying the country under the pretense of jihad. Abdi it'z easy to destroy things the hutus proved that very well, it is a whole another question if u can build things which the hutus failed to do so!!!

If you are from puntland and like to follow the religious way of life, your first support should be to the local sheikhs in puntland not hamar!!! Secondly regarding your comments of abdullahi bringing ethiopians, so it is ok the wadaad bring arab and asian soldiers? marka u wouldn't mind if abdullahi brought sudan? what crack are u smokin!!!

Abdullahi brought ethiopia as response to islamist bringing arab foot soldiers, what don't u get about battle strategy. The wadad brought the outside world into it and if abdullahi didn't his administration would of been over-ran. U think ethiopia just decided to come to somaliya one day just for the hell of it? they saw the tfg was being weakened by the outside support islamist were using, so why can't abdullahi even the playinng ground?

I doubt u r mj because every mj knows abdullahi was left with no fuckin choice!!!

[abdisamad3]

^^if mj means to be xabashi slave who is a sellout then your right iam not an mj..
and wadaad is wadaad they it doesnt matter whether he is born in muqdisho or bosaso..we muslims are brothers in islam..

[abdisamad3]

muxadara straight from bosaso..educating the people about how important it is to not fall for the kafir propoganda that potrais the mujahedeen as bad muslims..

[gemini07]

^^if mj means to be xabashi slave who is a sellout then your right iam not an mj..
and wadaad is wadaad they it doesnt matter whether he is born in muqdisho or bosaso..we muslims are brothers in islam..

Dhiiga lagaa miir.Haduu ku yiri Majerteen ma tihid ma waxaas ba lagu hadlaa?

[abdisamad3]

^^if mj means to be xabashi slave who is a sellout then your right iam not an mj..
and wadaad is wadaad they it doesnt matter whether he is born in muqdisho or bosaso..we muslims are brothers in islam..

Dhiiga lagaa miir.Haduu ku yiri Majerteen ma tihid ma waxaas ba lagu hadlaa?

the guy was calling me fake mj for not supporting xabashi invasion..so my answer was well placed..

[abdalla11]

^^^^you must be high on some bad khat..lol..aweeys is not al-shabaab member..he is only allied with them..he hasnt any power..in other words he is just a cheerleader for the shabaab..and if he tries anything he will be sent to jail..

I don't have any kind of balwad alxamdulilaah.
Al;shabaab will send Daahir aweys in jail???? SXb Daahir aweys is a saint compared to the warlord cusmaan caato, they captured him and released him.. The reasonwhy they reason why they released him is because they fear tribal war That shows that they apply the sharica on the weak and not on the powerfull, tha was one of the main reasons that banu israa'ill was cursed by Allah sxb open your eyes.

Cismaan Caato wuxuu noqonayaa Shaqsigii ugu Horreeyay ee Xildhibaan ka ah Kooxda Mbagathi oo Mujaahiddiintu inteey qabteen ay sii daayeen

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Let's debate this on a islamic point of view; Does the al-shabaab follow the conditions of jihaad?? Be honest

[ModerateMuslim]

The two main conditions are the permission f the amiir and the permission of the parents (especailly the mother)

We have all seen alot of mothers who are shocked by hearing that their sons joined alshabaab. That shows that the mothers even didn't know about it nor did they give a permession.
Once a youngman came to the prophet, because he wanted to do jihad with him. So the prophet asked him:'Do you have a mother, they youngman repleid: 'No'. The prophet asked him do you have an aunt, he said yes. The prophet said to him :'Go to her she will be your Jihad" i.e struggle.

Maybe alshabaab is wrong on political position but they are definitely wrong from an islamic point of view

such a jahil you're! if you're going to criticize al-shabab on the basis of islam can't you at least not be a total jahil? who told you you need the permission of your parents and the "emir" to fulfill your obligatory duty of jihad? madkhali? bin baz? fawzan? so in your deen (salafism?) you need the permission of the ruler, regardless if he's a muslim or not, and your parents? and do you even know the nature of the jihad that's going on somalia today, or whether it's an offensive or a defensive jihad?

anyway, al-shabab don't follow your deen - salafism - they follow al-islam, insha'allah. and in al-islam you don't need the permission of your parents nor the apostate rulers to fulfill your obligatory islamic duties or anything that goes against deen al-islam. in fact, in al-islam, depending on the issue/situation, it's at best a sin and at worst downright kufr that takes out of the fold of al-islam to obey your parents, rulers, or anyone else for that matter, if it means disobeying allah swt in the process. heck, you can disobey your parents and marry a girl they dislike for other reasons than islam. so if you can reject your parents wishes when it comes to marriage, you sure don't need their permission to fulfill any of your obligatory duties, e.g. qital in the way of allah swt, which is the most pure and noble act of worship in al-islam.