Plagued by questions --

[Quruxley]

Well at least you left your country and arrived there as a decent human being not some morally bankrupt criminal Goodness,I'm starting to sound like them.I'm not generalising but I am only remarking on those that elude such idiocy and extreme folly like the ones you've dealt with.Haa uu bixin sistergirl.Just keep that head held high.

[Mochatanya]

Morally bankrupt criminal True walaah, in fact the first cadaan folk to get here were convicts-- So here in Australia are the descendents of rapists, thieves, murderers and the socially inept

Quite sad really ----- Oh who am I kidding It's a disgrace

[Wise-Man]

[quote=Mochatanta]."Why are some Muslims celebrating the death of innocent people".

Mocha,

Muslims are depressed everywhere on this earth. They are helpless, powerless and clueless. Innocent Muslim people die on the hands of none Muslim. This incident happens over and over and even gets worst day by day. Our(Muslims) anger toward this injustice has exceeded its limit. Therefore, many of us are not able to differentiate right from wrong. This is the reason why we want to justify killing innocent people is right. We (Muslims) are responsible everything that is going on in our countries. We did everything to ourselves. Muslim leaders are irresponsible and careless about this matter. They prefer and focus their own interests rather than saving the society. Moreover, there are Islamic groups who claim the responsibility of every bomb explodes on this earth. No matter what happens and how they try to fulfill their mission, it will never and ever justify killing innocent people whoever they are and wherever they live.

[Mochatanya]

True true true.

Muslims however, need to stop being reactionaries. We need to cool down, the Prophet said 'Do not be angry, do not be angry, do not be angry.'

When you are angry you do regrettable things.

[PragmaticGal]

Funny how a lot of anguished hand-wringing over being misunderstood degenerated to blanket statements about those self-same people you claim stereotype you.

The media, Bush, Blair, the average Joe on the street have all made it abundantly clear that they do not consider their Muslim compatriots to be terrorists or traitors. Even Beards had a heartwarming tale about a cop checking to see that he was not mistreated. Yet you Muslims are still demanding....something. Respect? Grovelling? Kafirs to concede that Islam is the one true religion? What?

Somehow, we hear that somewhere in the world, civilians were deliberately blown to bits by fanatics. Yes, the majority of us will suspect a Muslim did it. And in the majority of cases, this will turn out to be so. But most of us are sensible enough to know that the "overwhelming majority of Muslims" (Blair's words), are not to blame.

Some ignorant f#cks WILL lash out at Muslims (or even Sikhs or Hindus--they are all the same to an idiot), but isn't it just as wrong for you to blame us for their behavior as it was for them to blame you for the acts of the terrorists?

[gadfly]

To pragmatical: I agree. We've moved to and live in a predominantly Christian, nonMuslim world-we are a minority. I was watching a news show the other day and a guess said something to the effect of "if you have a bunch of mexicans crossing the borders and some of them blow themselves up you have to look at the mexican community, stop all mexicans and check their ID's etc." He put it rather crudely but he is right. OKay, lets just overcome the hypocracy here and admit it: if we were in the same situation, and it was christians in a predominantly Muslim nation that were committing these acts, then we would react in the same manner. period.

to quruxley, mocha: for us, as muslims at this stage of our history, and here I talk not of individuals but a religion, there are greater things at stake than muslims in western countries being told to "go back where you came from" The question that should be asked, and wiseman has put it rather aptly, what have we Muslims done to ourselves ? Why is it that muslim nations are backward in every conceivable manner when it comes to the west? what has happened to Islam as a civilization ? ANd please, do not point a finger at the US or Europe for it is in ourselves we must look. This may seem rather philosophical to some but honestly, I really believe that this is a problem that cannot be ignored.

[Mochatanya]

Hey I don't MEAN to generalise, I know that there are some great people who are non-Muslim, so if I have generalised, forgive me.

Gadfly- I realise that more than anyone it is Muslims who are harming themselves. That is a whole other story.

[Laqdabo']

quote=Wiseman,"Muslims are depressed everywhere on this earth. They are helpless, powerless and clueless. Innocent Muslim people die on the hands of none Muslim. This incident happens over and over and even gets worst day by day. Our(Muslims) anger toward this injustice has exceeded its limit. Therefore, many of us are not able to differentiate right from wrong. This is the reason why we want to justify killing innocent people is right. We (Muslims) are responsible everything that is going on in our countries. We did everything to ourselves. Muslim leaders are irresponsible and careless about this matter. They prefer and focus their own interests rather than saving the society. Moreover, there are Islamic groups who claim the responsibility of every bomb explodes on this earth. No matter what happens and how they try to fulfill their mission, it will never and ever justify killing innocent people whoever they are and wherever they live"

Wiseman, that was a graceful and suitable input brother.