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ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

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ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby JeyR » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:47 pm

DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT SAYS THE GARAAD JAMAC GARAAD CALI ON THE BBC TODAY. THERE IS OPTION FOR ISAAQ LEAVE PEACEFULY OR LOST OF LIFE, THE OPTION IS YOUR HAND..... THIS IS VERY SERIOUS..

LISTEN HERE http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/chec ... m=1&bbwm=1

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby yawle » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:59 pm

So you were not fighting before? You were just playing around loooooooooooooooooooool


Adeero Col. Dhancade is very bored he wouldn't mind a bit of exercise to keep his body fit. :up: :sland:

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Qurjiile, you were beaten like bytches with Dhabayaco on your side what do you think without Dhabayaco money and military? You all will be captured like your old uncle col. Iska Toos and taken to Mandheera for some deciplinary lessons.
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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby Keyse_0208 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:02 pm

The day the somaliland flag comes down off laascaanod is when dhuloz can talk, until then these reer miyi garaads can say what ever they want.

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby The_Emperior5 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:53 am

Garaad jamac wa wiil yaro miskiin ah 40 jir ba ma gaadhin markasu odayasha waweyn la murmaya
wuxu labba sanno qabanayee maanta iidoorku may iska tagayaan
miid dhulbahanta uun ba uu jawaaba

Gudoomiye Ku Xigeenka Golaha Wakiilada Somaliland Oo Si Kulul Uga Jawaabay Hadalo Fool-xun Oo Ka Soo Yeedhay Garaad Ay Kasoo Wada-jeedaan Gobolka Sool

Hargaysa (Oodweynenews)- Gudoomiye ku xigeenka labaad ee Golaha Wakiilada Somaliland Md. Baashe Maxamed Faaraxa, ayaa jawaab kulul ka bixiyey hadalo dhaleecayn iyo meel-ka-dhac isugu jira oo Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali u soo jeediyey dawlada Somaliland, isaga oo garaadku ku andacooday in Somaliland ku soo duushay Gobolada bariga Somaliland ee Sool iyo Sanaag Barri.

Gudoomiye ku xigeenkalabaad ee Golaha Wakiiladu waxa uu sheegay in Garaadku ku hadlay wax aan looga fadhiyin in qofka madax-dhaqameed ahi ku hadlo, isaga oo ku eedeeyey in uu i Garaadku wado kicin iyo abaabul dagaal oo aan haba-yaraatee wax dani ugu jirin dadka deegaankaas ku nool.

Waxana Md. Baashe uu sidan ka sheegay xog-waran kooban oo uu galabta siiyey laanta afka Somaliga ee Idaacada BBC-da, waxaana hadaladiisii ka mid ahaa “Garaadku waa garaadkaygii [Garaad Jaamac] waana ana dhegaysanayey hadalkiisii, hadalo badan oo aan looga baran garaadada ayaa ku jiray. Waxa weeye Sool waxa ay ka mid tahay Somaliland oo Garaadkuna waa ogyahay, wuxuum-baanu u qaadanaynaa hadaladiisaa kuwo uu dadka uun ku kicinayo, hasayeeshee wax allaale iyo wax ay faa’ido keenayaan ma jiro.”

Waxaana uu intaa raaciyey oo uu yidhi “Shirka lagu qabtay Nairobi waxaanu u aragnaa shir dhaqaale lagaga raadsanayo Hay’adaha Nairobi degan, wax uu u soo kordhinayo Sool, Sanaag iyon Cayn midna ma jirto.”

Mar uu Gudoomiye Baashe ka hadlayay gacan-ku-haynta maamulka deegaanadaas waxa uu yidhi “Waxaa weeye deegaankii ayaanu nahay, deegaanka waxaa jooga Ciidamo dhulbahante ah oo halkaa u dhashay, waxa xukuma ee guud ahana maamulka deegaanka gacanta ku hayaa waa dadkii halkaas u dhashay.”

Waxaana uu intaa ku ladhay oo uu yidhi “Waxa layaabka leh waa hadalada ka soo yeedhe Garaad oo dadka inay sii kala fogayso mooyee, wax allaale wax faa’id o ah oo ay dadka u leedahay ma jirto, colaad ayuumbuu sii kordhinayaa, afka uu ku hadlayaana maaha afkii garaadada looga bartay oo wilaba isaga oo ina Garaad Cali Ah hadaladaa in uu ku hadlaa waa ceeb.”

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby senoritaa » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:01 am

If they had the power they would have fought back from the get go ..

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby Ismail_Boss » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:05 am

man the habar yonis will rock dulbahnti we dont need the other issaqs

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby JeyR » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:25 am

OK MARKA HORE WAXAAN LA YAABAA IDOOR FAANKIISA. KUWIINA KU FAANAYA LASCAANOOD BAANU QABSANAY, MIYAAD U MALAYNAYSAA IN AAD LAAS COONOOD QABSAN LAHAYD HADII QABIILOOYIN DHULBAHANTE AH OO MAAMULKIINA RAACSANI AYNA QABSAN LAASCAANOOD. WAXAA KALE EE IGA YAABIYA HADII LAASCOONOOD AY QABSADEEN DAD WADA SOCDA OO KALA AHA, GUDUBIIRIS, HABARAWAL, HABAR YONIS, ARAB, DHULGALE OR CIIDAGALA, DHULBAHANTE, HABARJECLO OO WADA SOCDAA OO HUWAN MAGACA AAD IDINKU U TAQAANIIN SOMALILAND AANUSE ANAGU U NAQAAN SOMALICONFUSE, MA WAXAAD CARUURUHIINA KU MADADAALISAAN LAAS CAANOOD WAXAA QABSADAY ISAAQ? COME ON BE REAL. LAAS CAANOOD WAXAA QABSADAY DAD WADA SOCDA OO KA KOOBAN DADKAA AAN KOR KU SHEEGAY OO HUWAN MAGACA SOMALICONFUSE.

WAXAANSE KU WAYDIINAYAA HADII ISAAQ UU AWOOD LAHAAN LAHAA MARKII DAWLADII SIYAAD BARRE DHACDAY WAXAAD MARKIIBA KU DUUSHEEN GUDUBIIRSI OO BOORAMA DEGAN, MAXAA ISAAQ UGU SOO DUULI WAAYEY LAAS CAANOOD IYO BUUHOODLE? I NEED THE ANSWER, SU AASHAA IIGA JAWAABA.

WAXAAN XASUUSTAA IN ODAYAASHA HABARYONIS IYO HABARJECLO YIMAADEEN BUUHOODLE LABA BILOOD KA DIB MARKII DAWLADII SIYAAD BARE DHACDAY, WAXAYNA CADEEYEEN IN AY NABAD RABAAN, AANAYNA OGOLAAN DOONIN IN NIMAN REER HARGAISA AHI DAGAAL KU QAADAAN CARO DHULBAHANTE, OO AY HADHOW DIB UGU NOQDAAN HARGAISA DHIBAATADUNA KU DHACDO HABAR YONIS IYO HABAR JECLO, WAR WAYNU IS NAQAANAA NIMANYAHOW EE FAANKA HALA JOOJIYO, WAR DHULBAHANTE WAAD TAQAANIIN WUXUU GALO IYO WUXUU GUDO.

ARINTU MARKII HORE WAXAY AHAYD PUNTLAND AND SOMALILAND IMINKA WAA DHULAHANTE WAXAAD LA XAAJOON DOONTAAN, ISAAQOW TASHADA, WAXAAN HUBAA IN QOLYAHA REER HARGAISA RABAAN IN DAGAAL DHACO OO UU DHEXMARO REER BURCO IYO REER LAAS CAANOOD WAYNUSE EEGI WAXA KA SOO BAXA ARINTAAS..... IF YOU ANSWERING THIS ARTICLE, BE REASONABLE AND EXPRESS YOUR OPINION IN THE RIGHT WAY...

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby LiQaaye_TDH » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:23 am

Dhullbahnate waa reer Somaliland, afarta dibedda ka Qaylinaysa mooyane... the ones in Somaliland are somalilanders to the bone, cidla ayaan isla xiijinaynaaye!!

Jeyr... 4 qurjiiles from the West cant change the Qurjiile people in somaliland, they are somalilandders and they will always be under somalliland.. if the ones back dont want somaliland, they will have to move out of our territory :up:

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby JeyR » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:28 am

LIQAAYE...... WALAAHAY IT IS SAD, MARKAAD EEGTO ISAAQ MA JIRO QOF XATAA SU AALAHA AAD WAYDIISO KAAGA JAWAABI KARA. TEEDA KALE QOFKU HADUU CUQDAD QABO AMA UU YAHAY DADKA LA YASO WAXA KALIYA EE UU KUUGU JAWAABAA WAA CAY. HADII ILAAHAY UU LAANGAAB KAA DHIGAY OO WIXII LAGU WAYDIIYABA AAD UUN CAY KU JAWAABAYSO, DEE WALAAHAY IS FAHMI MAYNO.

ANIGU SUAAL BAAN IDIN WAYDIIYEY IDINMA CAAYIN, MAXAA CAYDA KEENAY? SUAASHII WAXAY AHAYD MAXAAD CARO DHULBAHANTE U SOO WEERARI WAYDEEN 1991 MARKII AAD WEERARTEEN GUDUBIIRSI EE ARINTU AHAYD DHULAHANTE IYO ISAAQ?? JAWAAB BAAN KAA SUGAYEY WAXAA KU JAWAABTAY CAY IYO AFLAGAADO, XATAA QORAALKAYGA WAAN KUUGU SHEEGAY IN AAN LAYS AFLAGAADAYN, MARKAA WAXBA KAA GARAN MAAYEE HADII AAD SUAASHAAS JAWAABTEEDA HAYSO II SHEEG HADII KALANA, AAMUS..

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby lali99 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:05 pm

sxb the simple answer for this su'al is the same reason SNM did not attack and massacre gadabursi..do u honestly believe that a group that has defeated and drown out of his territory the 3rd strongest army couldnt defeat dhuulbahante??? cmon be realistic forget SNM FIGHTING u guys when it only suffice habar jeclo or habar yonis... Im not that qabylaist but one i heard someone boosting themselves out of STUPIDITY I just need to put them back in their place... ISSAQ OO DHAAN KULALAH when only two sub clans could be more than enuff...HORTA i forget but i was told that a sub division of the SNM compose of muse ismail leaded by a one of their own, a commander who was born by a dhulbahante wanted to take the fight to u guys but the headquarter refused it cuz I believe they had a plan to declare independance and wanted to safe face and get a good credit for those that they wanted to be part of the new country..Is all politic and has nothing to do with showing strenght...



P.S. wanst one of ur own garaad one of the first non isaaq that sign a peace treaty in 1992...if u guys were in position of power and were still loyal to the old regime then why would he wanted to press to sign that peace of treaty if it wasnt to repulse an attack?? those are the questions that u need to answer now that i answer urs..


P.S.S another point is that showing ur chest and boosting ur war-readiness is not something to be proud cuz it only brings misery and destruction but when u generalize isaaq please do not so cuz when an isaaq tribe is fighting with another one its usually wiil iyo abitkiis which means that in 1991 if they were a fight then it will be habar yonis or habar jeclo fighting u and not the other clans.. and so far in history it has shown as that those isaaq clans doesnt loose much but mostly gain territory diuring war time...


NEXT TIME COME UP WITH SOMETHING RATIONNAL BUDDY..DELUSION DOESNT SERVE U JUSTICE BUT ONLY TO MAKE LOOK LIKE A FOOL

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby GENERAL_SNM » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:21 pm

Typical Dhulbahnte they are their worst enemies. They talk the talk but never walk the walk, 100 years these fockers have been provoking us and everytime they get Karbashed. From Caynaba in the turn of the century to Haye in the 80's, HJ have won every battle. Its written and not my opinion..

Ps, Isaaq kullah, war HY dont even Join HJ to fight Dhulbahnte simply because they all compete equally against eachother. But HJ have always had the upper hand and if you can bring be prove to say otherwise, until then this sort of topic is not worth a second.. :mrgreen:

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby MrPrestige » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:10 pm

Lali it was simple as this the Dhullos were defeated in Sanaag and they mostly retreated back to sool in the 1990's - and the Capital of Sanaag Ceerigaabo was Liberated by Hy - Ahmed Mire and his Militia and kicked out all the harti's






The final meeting between the
two parties in this sequence
took place just over a year
later, from the 5th to the 9th of
November 1992, when a large
number (approximately 400
delegates) of Warsangeli and
Habar Yoonis-bari met in the
town of Jiidali. Jiidali had long
been a Dhulbahante town, but
the Habar Yoonis had occupied
the area after the Dhulbahante
retreat to Sool following the
Damalahagare conflict.
For
this reason, the Dhulbahante
were offended when the town
was selected as the venue for
the meeting and subsequently
held a grudge against the
Warsangeli for agreeing to
meet there (Gees, 2007b).









Habar Yoonis and Dhulbahante
Much as is the case with the Habar Je’lo, the Dhulbahante have long shared borders and inte-married
with the Habar Yoonis, so connections are deep, and grudges can be long-remembered. In each of these
relationships, this has led to difficulties in initiating peace talks as well as offering channels of communication
through family links.
After the war the Habar Yoonis had become somewhat isolated from the other Sanaag clans. They had
established themselves in arguably the strongest military position in Sanaag, winning control of Erigavo, and
felt no need to engage with the others.
However, by December 1992 and after the Garadag meeting, it was
clear that this isolation could lead to conflict with an alliance of Habar Je’lo, Dhulbahante and Warsangeli:
the Eastern Coalition. The Warsangeli were clearly split in terms of their feelings towards the Habar Yoonis,
but they had taken on the task of approaching them for talks on behalf of the Coalition. However, there
were a handful of dissenters amongst the Dhulbahante. Immediately after the Garadag conference, a group
of ten young Dhulbahante men, all of whom had lived in Erigavo and owned property there, decided to
try and meet with Habar Yoonis representatives themselves. They first made radio contact, then, against
the advice of their own people, set out from Sool and travelled as far as Fiqifuliye42 on the route towards
Erigavo. Again, they made contact with Habar Yoonis elders, who agreed to meet them further along the
road. Seven Habar Yoonis elders led by Saeed Ali Dualeh, the representative of Suldaan Rashid, welcomed
them to Habar Yoonis territory, and the two groups reached an agreement that the Habar Yoonis.






When the Dhulbahante retreated to Sool after the Damalahagare conflict, they left Fiqifuliye and the town remained largely deserted until contacts with the Habar
Yoonis had been re-established. As the meetings described in this section took place, confidence in the relationship strengthened, and Dhulbahante families
began to return. On several occasions the town served as a meeting point between Habar Yoonis and Dhulbahante







Advance Party in Erigavo
We (Ahmed Ali ‘Adami’, Mohamed Saeed ‘Gees’, Mohamoud Abdi
Hamud ‘Nine’ and Mohamud Ahmed Ali ‘Bayr’) went to Erigavo to
assess the situation as the first Warsangeli committee for the Erigavo
Conference. There were no other Harti in the town, except for two
girls from our clan, who were also assisting with preparation for the
conference, and were looking after us. We requested that the girls
prepare a qaad-room [a room to meet and chew qaad] for us, and they
offered us their own room, which they rented from the locals. When we
arrived at the room I [Gees] felt very emotional, as the house belonged
to my grandfather and the Habar Yoonis were occupying and renting
it unlawfully.
As we were sitting in the room, the door was forcefully opened by four
militia with weapons. Suddenly one of them asked us “who is Mohamud
Abdi Hamud ’Nine’?”. We were shocked into silence as we didn’t know
what they wanted him for! One of us then asked “do you know him?”.
They replied “we’re his brother in-laws. We heard he is in town, and we
have come from Jiidali to protect him”. Everyone was relieved to hear
that!
(Gees, 2007b)





so lali you see at the end of the Day Hy and Hj were winner's against the harti's in sanaag claiming back their lands and lost farms given to the hartis by afweyn that's how you do revenge , the dhullos in frightment even left the whole sanaag in fear of HY , we reer Bari Somalilander's dont mess about we do the job real good.

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby JeyR » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:51 am

LALI99..... FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO POSTED HERE OR ASNWERED MY QUESTION, YOU ARE THE ONLY REASONABLE PERSON THAT I CAN ATLEAST HAVE A DECENT CONVERSATION WITH. I DO RESPECT YOUR OPINION.

ONE THING I WANT TO REMIND YOU IS, I POSTED HERE SPEACH FROM GRAAD JAMAC GARAAD ALI, I DID NOT INSULT ANYONE OR PUT MY OPNION AT ALL, HOWEVER, ALL THE POEPLE WHO RESPOND THAT POSTING WHERE DEGRADING AND INSULTING DHULBAHANTE, WHICH IS NOT RIGHT THING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN ALL YOUR BOYS CLAIM LAASCOOND IS CAPTURED BY ISAAQ POWER THAT IS ABSULETLLY LIE, INFACT, LASCANOD IS CAPTURED AND CONTROLLED BY DHULBAHANTE WHO HAVE SAME VIEWS WITH SOMALILAND, AND THAT IS A FACT.

WHAT SUPRISE ME HERE IS THAT, I HAVE NOT SEEN IN HERE ANYONE WHO IS ISAAQ WHO SAY HEY, STOP INSULTING DHULBAHATE..... WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FOLLOW ISAAQ? I CAN ASSURE YOU IF DHULOOS WOULD HAVE INSULT ISAAQ THE WAY YOU GUYS DID HERE, OTHER DHULOOS WOULD STEPPED UP AND SAY STOP INSLUTING WHOLE QABIIL, I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT, I WONDER WHY.....

FOR THE HISTORY, I AM NOT BLIND AT ALL, WHOLE ISAAQ DID NOT FIGHT WITH DHULBAHANTE, USUALLAY IT IS HABAR YONIS VS DHULBAHANTE OR HABAR JECLO VS DHULBAHANTE, BUT WHEN YOUR GUYS TALKING ABOUT LAAS CAANOOD THEY ALWAYS SAY, OH ISAAQ BAA QABSADAY LAAS CAANOOD, WAYNA KU FAANAAN, ISMANA KALA SAARAAN, THAT IS WHY I USED ISAAQ SAME WAY YOUR BOYS USED.

FOR YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE GARAAD, THE GARAAD USED HATE SIYAAD BARE RAGIME EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, HE DID NOT LIKE HOW THINGS WHERE GOING THE SIYAAD GOVERNMENT, AND HE LEFT BEFORE SIYAAD BARRE GOVERNEMTN FALL, HE WAS IN FACT IN HAWD FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THAT REGIME, WAS HE SING PEACE DEAL WITH ISAAQ, I HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL, BUT I KNOW DHULOOS WERE READY TO FIGHT THOSE DAYS IF ANYONE ATTACKS THEIR LAND AND NO ONE HAS DONE THAT.......

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Re: ISAAQOW DHULOOS ARE READY TO FIGHT, WHAT WOULD BE SOLUTION??

Postby lali99 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:41 pm

jeyr i see where ur coming from with ur affiliation with las canoon and emotion are running high.... but u just got to know that when ur posting a post it will b wise for u to not ask a question of something u dont have much knowledge about

JeyR wrote:WAS HE SING PEACE DEAL WITH ISAAQ, I HAVE NO IDEA AT ALL, BUT I KNOW DHULOOS WERE READY TO FIGHT THOSE DAYS IF ANYONE ATTACKS THEIR LAND AND NO ONE HAS DONE THAT.......


dont take this the wrong way but i hope duceysane has provided u with short history regarding this subject


salamu aleikum


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