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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby General Duke » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:31 am

I am going to do something about it !
America is the best country in the fukin world , I have found ACCEPTANCE and true PEACE here {nobody ever out loud told me anything offensive concerning my religion or race}... I'm thinking about joining the National Guard.. we'll see how it goes , if they accept me or not :lol:.
You're mistaken; America isn't the best country in the world.

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby SahanGalbeed » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:26 am

American Muslims r easily intimidated thats y they feel like they have 2 join da army 2protect da country dats killing their own muslim brothers around da world. Their hearts is too weak 2 say da truth out loud.about freedom of xpression :roll: :down:
You've gotta be a fukin UK Somalo to come up with shyt like that . :lol:
What do an opium dealing taliban who doesn't want women to go to school and me have in common?
Forget about afghanis , not even the Al shabaab lunatics are my brothers , I swear !
I have chosen my camp and this is where I am -->
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Look here , I wish I could bring you all here ..but I just can't !

The only thing I am truely grateful for is that I haven't discovered Islam with a bunch of former jamaican convincts , Pakistanis lunatics or Arab rejects .
May Allah truely save you all , misguided little motherfuckers.
PS : It once again fucked up saudis who brought up the islamizing the convicts kinda thing as in Saudi Aarabia the mutawaceen were recruited among the prisoners .

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby Leila25 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:59 am

Nobleman

I live in the UK and i have to disagree with you. American Muslims are largely educated and in employment compared to Muslims in the UK. Muslim councillors and politicians largely reflect government's multicultural policies and not the Muslim Community.

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby Meles » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:10 am

'There's no such thing as an American Muslim'

- Shaykh Yusuf Malik.

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby SahanGalbeed » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:20 am

^ Absolutely !! We're just Americans :lol: :up:
I dunno who that yusuf malik is , but Islam is a religion .
We have Christians , Jews , Buddists , Atheists..all kinds of different people .
I don't think I am better than anybody and I don't think I was sent by God to IMPOSE certain views on people .. let's be real here !
You love Allah ? good for you , :lol: .. work on yourself ain't nothing special about you !

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby Meles » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:30 am

For clarification, the Shaykh in question stated that residing in the US (including a stopover during a transit flight) is enough to revoke one's religion.

There was a lot of controversy, but the general consensus was that he was right. This isn't an endorsement, I just thought it may be of interest :up:

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby SahanGalbeed » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:33 am

Thank you , tell him to come here in Snet !

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby Meles » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:37 am

To defend his views? I don't think that'll work.

I'm willing to play devil's advocate, if needs be, although I don't think there's any need to since there's nothing to disagree with.

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Re: Twelve dead US soldiers in TEXAS

Postby Spursman » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:09 am

Hasan, the sole suspect in the massacre of 13 fellow US soldiers in Texas, attended the controversial Dar al-Hijrah mosque in Great Falls, Virginia, in 2001 at the same time as two of the September 11 terrorists, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt. His mother's funeral was held there in May that year.

The preacher at the time was Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born Yemeni scholar who was banned from addressing a meeting in London by video link in August because he is accused of supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organisations.


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Fort Hood shooting: President Barack Obama will travel to Texas for Fort Hood memorial service Hasan's eyes "lit up" when he mentioned his deep respect for al-Awlaki's teachings, according to a fellow Muslim officer at the Fort Hood base in Texas, the scene of Thursday's horrific shooting spree.

As investigators look at Hasan's motives and mindset, his attendance at the mosque could be an important piece of the jigsaw. Al-Awlaki moved to Dar al-Hijrah as imam in January, 2001, from the west coast, and three months later the September 11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hamzi and Hani Hanjour began attending his services. A third hijacker attended his services in California.

Hasan was praying at Dar al-Hijrah at about the same time, and the FBI will now want to investigate whether he met the two terrorists.

Charles Allen, a former under-secretary for intelligence at the Department of Homeland Security, has described al-Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen, as an "al-Qaeda supporter, and former spiritual leader to three of the September 11 hijackers... who targets US Muslims with radical online lectures encouraging terrorist attacks from his new home in Yemen".

Last night Hasan remained in a coma under guard at a military hospital in San Antonio, Texas, and was said to be in a "stable" condition. Born in America to a Palestinian family, Hasan, 39, was an army psychiatrist who had chosen to sign up for the US military against his parents' wishes.

But he turned into an angry critic of the wars America was waging in Iraq and Afghanistan and had tried in vain to negotiate his discharge.

He counselled soldiers returning from the front line and told relatives that he was horrified at the prospect of a deployment to Afghanistan later this year – his first time in a combat zone.

Whether due to his personal convictions, his stress over his deployment or other reasons, Hasan is alleged to have snapped and gone on a murderous rampage with a powerful semi-automatic handgun after shouting "Allahu Akhbar" ("God is great"), according to survivors. He had earlier given away copies of the Koran to neighbours.

Investigators at this stage have no indication that he planned the attacks with anyone else. But they are trawling through his phone records, paperwork and computers he used before the attack during an apparently sleepless night.

Five of the 13 victims were fellow mental health professionals from three units of the army's Combat Stress Control Detachment, it was disclosed yesterday.

It is understood that Hasan had been due to be deployed with members of those units in coming months. Whether he deliberately singled out other combat stress counsellors is another key question.

What does seem clear is that the army missed an increasing number of red flags that Hasan was a troubled and brooding individual within its ranks.

"I was shocked but not surprised by news of Thursday's attack," said Dr Val Finnell, a fellow student on a public health course in 2007-08 who heard Hasan equate the war on terrorism to a war on Islam. Another student had warned military officials that Hasan was a "ticking time bomb" after he reportedly gave a presentation defending suicide bombers.

Kamran Pasha, the author of Mother of the Believers, a new novel relating the story of Islam from the perspective of Aisha, Prophet Mohammed's wife, was told of the al-Awlaki connection from a Muslim friend who is also an officer at Fort Hood. Using the name Richard, the recent convert to Islam described how he frequently prayed with Hasan at the town mosque after Hasan was deployed to Fort Hood in July. They last worshipped together at predawn prayers on the day of the massacre when Hasan "appeared relaxed and not in any way troubled or nervous".

But Richard had previously argued with Hasan when he said that he felt the "war on terror" was really a war against Islam, expressed anti-Jewish sentiments and defended suicide bombings.

"I asked Richard whether he believed that Hasan was motivated by religious radicalism in his murderous actions," Mr Pasha said.

"Richard, with great sadness, said that he believed this was true. He also believed that psychological factors from Hasan's job as an army psychiatrist added to his pathos. The news that he would be deployed overseas, to a war that he rejected, may have pushed him over the edge.

"But Richard does not excuse Hasan. As a Muslim, he finds Hasan's religious perspectives to be fundamentally misguided. And as a soldier, he finds Hasan's actions cowardly and evil."

Fellow Muslims in the US armed forces have also been quick to denounce Hasan's actions and insist that they were the product of a lone individual rather than of Islamic teachings. Osman Danquah, the co-founder of the Islamic Community of Greater Killeen, said Hasan never expressed anger toward the army or indicated any plans for violence.

But he said that, at their second meeting, Hasan seemed almost incoherent.

"I told him, 'There's something wrong with you'. I didn't get the feeling he was talking for himself, but something just didn't seem right."

He was sufficiently troubled that he recommended the centre reject Hasan's request to become a lay Muslim leader at Fort Hood.

Hasan had, in fact, already come to the attention of the authorities before Thursday's massacre. He was suspected of being the author of internet postings that compared suicide bombers with soldiers who throw themselves on grenades to save others and had also reportedly been warned about proselytising to patients.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rists.html


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