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Horta why do Somalis pray 5 times?....I know alot of Pakistanis and Arabs that dont pray and when they do it's only few times a day (duhur and Isha) and sometimes on Fridays.
Horta why do Somalis pray 5 times?....I know alot of Pakistanis and Arabs that dont pray and when they do it's only few times a day (duhur and Isha) and sometimes on Fridays.Sums up the rediculousness of this thread.

Horta why do Somalis pray 5 times?....I know alot of Pakistanis and Arabs that dont pray and when they do it's only few times a day (duhur and Isha) and sometimes on Fridays.

advo delivers againHorta why do Somalis pray 5 times?....I know alot of Pakistanis and Arabs that dont pray and when they do it's only few times a day (duhur and Isha) and sometimes on Fridays.

In the UK Jilbab is popular among Somalis and not niqaab, any concealment of the face should be banned including balaclavas worn by street thugs at night. I would also not define Somalis as liberal.
What are you on about? The jilbab does not conceal the face.Comparing jilbab to balaclavas lol. So we should be told how to dress now is it?


QuranWith most Somali girls who wear it (not all ) they probably used to have a reputation
Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.
And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof
24:30-31
Kind of hazy, so the hadiths provide a little clarity on what exactly is meant by 'over their persons'O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Qur'an 33:59
Ayesha (R) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (R) came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands. (Abu Dawood)
The Rasuul saw twisted the boys neck, not asking the girl to cover her faceAbdullah bin Abbas reports that the Prophet was riding a camel with Al-Fadhl, Abdullah's brother, behind him. A beautiful woman came to ask the Prophet about the Hajj of her father. Al Fadhl began to stare at her; her beauty impressed him a lot. The Prophet (peace be upon him) having noticed this while Al Fadhl was busy looking, put his hand behind and turned his face away from her hither and thither as she went along with them. Al Abbas said to the Prophet, "you are twisting the neck of your nephew!" The Prophet replied, "I noticed that both the boy and the girl were young; and I feared that Satan may intervene". (Bukhari and Tirmidhi)

From what I can tell the niqaab phenomenon in the West isnt unique to Somali's, in fact in the UK its mostly Pakistani's in the North.With most Somali girls who wear it (not all ) they probably used to have a reputation, and wearing a niqaab is an instant declaration of their transformation, most give it up in a year.I dont want to see it banned, but I find the rise of the niqaab in the UK very disturbing.
First and foremost, it is not Islamic, it undermines the rationale behind the concept of hijaab because it screams for attention and is not backed by most Hadiths and definitely not the Quran.
But in general, it marginalises Muslim women from mainstream society, it justifies the bizarre notion that women themselves are obscene (isn't it enough to lower your gaze!) and generally only brings problems to the wearer, and other British Muslims.
Dawwa, Its the same in Egypt, laakin most Somali women wear it to not get dark.


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