General Galaal says Cali samatar is guilty

[Voltage]

Voltage,

I sometimes wonder if you can ever stop to consider the brutality of the regime in its wars. How can you even justify air strikes against major cities ? Such actions were immoral that even Somali pilots refused to perform such missions and fled the nation.

Until you can begin to see and accept the other side's argument, you will never reach that 'enlightened' stage you are seeking.

Put the case up for objective evaluation. I 100% support this but this revisionism of gold platting Ethiopian-supported rebels who attack their nation and even questioning why the government acted is a revisionism endorsed and planned by rebel narrative.

Somalia is coming out of its post-Barre fall. This is not the time where government supporters felt guilty and took the brunt for all discourse and narrative pampered out there by the rebel legacy. This has speed-ed up the time to respond back and have true dialogue.

[Cali_Gaab]

CaliGaab,

Dude, any scores we had with the regime were settled fair and square. The motherfocker who murdered my closest kin was shot and his body left to be eaten by cats and dogs.

Yet you Issaks would rather wallow in self pity instead of taking action.

I'd be damned to see Morgan strolling Nairobi streets without him catching a beatdown.

Really? Doesn't morgan live in Kenya?
Was he not at the 'SSC' party in Nairobi recently strutting his stuff on stage?
Was hye not previously sitting in Villa Somalia with Yey?

[AbdiWahab252]

Voltage,

The difference is that you and your cohorts are painting a picture of a utopia under MSB and fail to acknowledge his excesses.

No one here except the Barreists refuse to acknowledge that he committed heinous crimes against civilians.

As for the rebels, they also had there mistakes but these groups would not have flourished if it were not for MSB's crimes.

[Voltage]

Btw Abdiwahab can you stop your childish fictionalizing in this thread? Time and time again it has been established you are at best a fantastic liar and at worse a deluded individual. You won't get cookie points for every outlandish contribution you bring.

[Voltage]

Voltage,

The difference is that you and your cohorts are painting a picture of a utopia under MSB and fail to acknowledge his excesses.

No one here except the Barreists refuse to acknowledge that he committed heinous crimes against civilians.

As for the rebels, they also had there mistakes but these groups would not have flourished if it were not for MSB's crimes.

No one here has more to fear true dialogue then the supporters of the USC peasants revolution. Stop trying to piggy back on the case of the north which has some legitimate arguments to bring.

[LobsterUnit]

not another: "samatar shouldn't be prosecuted" vs "oh yes he should thread".

Guys, it doesn't matter what you guys think. The only thing that matter is what the court decides. If he is tried or convicted, those of you who hate him can stick up two fingers at the pro samatar corner, and vice versa.

[AbdiWahab252]

Voltage,

What is more insulting my posts in this thread or you trying to deny the vast human rights crimes committed by the regime against its own people ?

Mine may make some chuckle, but yours are full of insults against the deceased.

If you were in Germany post 1945, you would still post praise of the Nazis & Hitler for his so called good deeds (turning the Germany economy, increasing employment) and never acknowledge his crimes against his fellow citizens.

[The_Emperior5]

Lool Ina isaaq bixii is saying that SNM attacked Hargeisa and burco , And that’s why we Killed innocent Civilians , here is the problem with the former Siyaadist government The so called government is responsible for what happens in the country , its their task to protect its citizens from any aggressors Not for them to Murder their own people, Dawlada waxa saran Masuuliyad aan Jabhada saarnayn Sabbab Dalkay iyaga ka masuul ah. She also says We should put on trial all the people after siyaad barre regime was ousted. I mean what is she on about. Yey dacweyneysa yeyse ka dacweyneysa. Anigu mar mar waxan is yidha siiday dadkani Somalia u xukumayeen for 21 years. Any way She also said Xabashida ayaa so hubeysey SNM, Is she forgetting what took place in Djibouti in april 1988 and the deal between siyaad barre and Mengistu haille maryam, Tallow yaa Siyaad barre so hubeyey Ma khalifadi islaamka lolz When she says Ethiopia aya dhul naga haysata. Fighting a Rebbel group is one thing But killing un armed civilians Is a crime against humanity.

[AbdiWahab252]

CaliGaab,

Dude, any scores we had with the regime were settled fair and square. The motherfocker who murdered my closest kin was shot and his body left to be eaten by cats and dogs.

Yet you Issaks would rather wallow in self pity instead of taking action.

I'd be damned to see Morgan strolling Nairobi streets without him catching a beatdown.

Really? Doesn't morgan live in Kenya?
Was he not at the 'SSC' party in Nairobi recently strutting his stuff on stage?
Was hye not previously sitting in Villa Somalia with Yey?

CaliGab,

He does and so do many Issaks. Yet no Issak ever punched or kicked the shiid out of him.

[Dhaga Bacayl]

Little “faqash” products are pissing in their pants. We're coming for you, one by one!

[aka-peace-]

not another: "samatar shouldn't be prosecuted" vs "oh yes he should thread".

Guys, it doesn't matter what you guys think. The only thing that matter is what the court decides. If he is tried or convicted, those of you who hate him can stick up two fingers at the pro samatar corner, and vice versa.

there is not a court on the face of the planet that will find samatar guilty, not even if the alleged victims came back to life to testify against him markaa lets give this a rest.

[Voltage]

The so called government is responsible for what happens in the country , its their task to protect its citizens from any aggressors Not for them to Murder their own people, Dawlada waxa saran Masuuliyad aan Jabhada saarnayn Sabbab Dalkay iyaga ka masuul ah.

Exactly the government is responsible for protecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of its nation. But if I read what you write clearly you are saying, SNM was free to have done what it wanted to the people including shooting and hiding behind mothers and children--incidentally the same people they claimed to be fighting for but the government should not have responded.

O.k sxb...say what should the government have done to take on the rebels? Sign peace treaty with them endorsing their plans? Legitimize the ability of someone or some group to usurp the rule of law in the land? Show to the world the sovereignty and territorial integrity of your nation is expendable? I mean what should it have done?

I am Marehan. I was in civil war once and my region was occupied. I would never consider SNF a hero if they had fought the USC in the middle of Garbahareey and Beled-Xaawo. SNF cared for its people so they withdraw from the cities, goaded the USC to come out to the open and annihilated them ending Aideed's attempt to rule Somali by militarily exerting control over the non-Hawiye regions. Where is the SNM that carried for the people it was fighting for?

Abdiwahab, even the northerners as evidenced by Cali Gaab are not buying your fake support. You might as well just give it up.

[Voltage]

Little “faqash” products are pissing in their pants. We're coming for you, one by one!

Great bro, keep insulting people personally. I don't know you and don't care for you, but with respect to the situational event that took place between a government and foreign supplied rebel group, I have a thing or two to say.

[AbdiWahab252]

Voltage,

At least your people knew that a fight was coming to them.

What about the innocents slaughtered by the Marexan lead SNA in Mudug and Galgaduud in November 1989 ? Ordinary civilians taken out of their homes and slaughtered just because they came from a certain qabiil ?

If your father, his brother and cousins had their hands tied behind their backs and killed by machine gunfire by MSB's army, would you still support MSB ? Or would you support all those who fought the regime ?

[sadeboi]

THE BEST SPEECH, CEARLY EXPLAINED EVERYTHING, WALLE WAA MADAX RUN, EVEN THE WAY SHE ADDRESSES THE PROBLEMS, CALM AND FIRM IN HER BELIEF.