Postby Kamal35 » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:24 am
Good analysis, Mad Mac. But there's a point in which I disagree. You will remind that, before the war on Iraq started, I warned: "It's going to be like stirring up a hornet's nest". That's what actually is happening. For years, there was a great sense of humilliation in the muslim world for years of colonialism, manipulation in the Arab countries, corruption, undercover operations to put and pull out presidents or kings and the Iraq issue was the last straw, even here in the West. The arrogancy of Bush and his neo-cons in Washington, his lack of sensivity, his sense of superiority was too much for the people all around the world. That way of saying "God bless America" and all that shit was really annoying. And stupid.
I think nobody here felt any symphathy to Saddam Hussein, like I don't feel any symphathy for Fidel Castro or Gadaffi. But one thing is the dictator who's ruling a country and one completly different thing is that country itself, the people of that country. And you can't blame a country for what its president is doing or not. The war in Iraq, more than a mistake, a whole mistake, was an UNJUSTICE against the Iraqi people. You know me and you know how hard I worked with the Iraqi children. I heard their stories, I saw their tears and I got really angry against Bush. And I'm Western and Spanish. Just imagine what a muslim could feel.
This feeling of anger against unjustice has been used by the fanatics in order to implant the chaos. You're completly right about they're working in the shadow. They have their own hidden agenda which is nothing but creating a great mess in order to fight their personal and crazy Satan, their own particular ghosts which have nothing to do with the real world, but all those fairy tales about the 72 virgins and rivers of wine in the Paradise. Nothing to do with common life. I don't think their muslims: they're just mad men, insane men, who should be jailed in a psychiatric.
A muslim friend of mine told me once that, after the war in Iraq, those muslims who were moderate, became less moderate; those one who were conservative, became more conservative; those one who were a little bit fanatic, became real fanatic, and those ones who were real fanatics, became terrorists. That's why I think that, if the situation remains the same, with USA kicking Iraq day in day out, this is gonna end with fanatics fighting fanatics of all sides, with terrorist attacks in Rome, Berlin, Paris, Barcelona or Kuala Lumpur. It doesn't matter where: fanatics all over the place. And with fanatics burning mosques in London or Leeds, or killing someone because he looks like an Arab.
The thing is going to get worse with the days, because, as you say, the Western World is not going to stand peaceful if more terrorist attacks happen. I don't understand what's happening in London: after the attacks in Madrid, nobody blamed the muslim community for what happened: we blamed the terrorists. Muslim people offered themselves to work with the police as translators, confidents, gave their assistance to the Spanish intelligence. What you can't do is to blame a whole community for what only a few, very few, did. But if it happens once and again, the people here is going to feel as angry as muslim people all around the world feels, and this gonna be a mess.
I read here that if a Western dared to visit Somalia, he would inmediately killed. And the guy who said this was proud of it.
I can't imagine what can happen if, here, in the West, we reach to the same mentality. The extermination champs again.
That's what those fanatics want Europe to become: a Hitlerian State again in order to tell their fellow people: "Don't you see, here's the proof that the West is the Great Satan".
The old terrorist shit of Action-Reaction-Action.
But this time, Mad, Bush has his part in the Action-Reaction-Action chain.
Seef-laboodnimo is the biggest problem we have i guess.
