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a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:45 am

JEDDAH: The Chairman of the Lawyers Committee in Madina has said he expects the judge being held on corruption charges to have the funds he earned during the course of his duties seized by the state.

Sultan Bin Zahim said that investigators will be looking at the nature and causes of the judge’s behavior, and that any conviction would seek to prevent its reoccurrence.

According to Bin Zahim, the Higher Judicial Council has yet to be presented with any charges against the judge, who is alleged to have accepted money to ease real estate cases through his court, but investigations are ongoing and numerous witnesses and suspects are being questioned.

“Once the Bureau of Monitoring and Investigation has established that there is substance to the charges against the judge, they will be put before the Higher Judicial Council which will then take up the investigation,” Bin Zahim said.
The lawyer said that if it goes to trial, the case will be heard behind closed doors and the judge will be allowed a defense attorney. Due to the special nature of the case, the ruling will be decided by a majority and will be final. “The suggestions by some lawyers that the judge should be pardoned but removed from his post should he be found guilty would not constitute a strong enough deterrent,” Bin Zahim said.

The Madina judge was first taken into custody during Ramadan for allegedly accepting bribes to arrange through his court illegal ownership of real estate. Several businessmen and state employees along with seven engineering and planning firms are all suspected of involvement in the various cases that passed through his courtroom.

The case raised eyebrows in legal and public circles, however, after the judge claimed that he was “under a magic spell” at the time of offenses for which he has been held on charges of corruption. The judge said he was later cured of the spell through “ruqya”, healing through Qur’anic recitation.

Fayez Al-Qathami, a well-known practitioner of “ruqya” subsequently claimed that he questioned a “jinni”- or “genie”, as traditionally rendered in English – that spoke through the judge and identified a real estate broker who is also a suspect in the case as the caster of the spell.

Last Thursday, Salim Bin Atiya, the lawyer defending the “spell-casting” broker, demanded that Al-Qathami bring the genie to court so that his statements could be heard. my favorite part :mrgreen:

“If what the judge says is true, then the genie is either immoral or an unbeliever sent by a magic practitioner who has left the bounds of religion, as acts of magic by necessity require one to abandon the realm of Islam and enter the realm of unbelief,” Bin Atiya said.

What the genie said ( [Big Grin] )

More recently, Al-Qathami spoke to Okaz/Saudi Gazette and gave details of his conversation with the genie – who spoke through the tongue of the judge – and reiterated that the session was conducted in the presence of members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice (the Hai’a), a claim previously denied by the presidency of the organization.
“The judge was given ruqya readings by sheikhs from Qassim, and the genie spoke to them,” he said. “What he said needs to be verified, as our Sheikh Bin Baz (the former Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia) said that if a genie spoke through a human tongue then that genie would be acting criminally, and might be lying.”

The genie is purported to have revealed the name of a real estate broker it said was responsible for putting the accused judge under a spell, but Al-Qathami warned that the information might not be reliable.

When asked if the genie provided details on the cases in which the judge was involved, Al-Qathami said that all the details were with the Hai’a who recorded them in their report.
“The relevant authorities are investigating,” he added.

On the subject of the judge, he said that he had most recently started treating him in Ramadan of this year, but had first conducted ruqya readings for him four years ago when he showed signs of “weariness”.

“The magic only really took hold of him a year or two ago though,” he said, adding that what happened to the judge was “magic, making people do things of which they are not conscious”.

– Okaz/Saudi Gazette

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby rosyspecs » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:48 am

:lol: :lol:

When all else fails blame it on the jinns! I swear muslims take the whole black magic escape route too far :lol:

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby abdisamad3 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:50 am

Last Thursday, Salim Bin Atiya, the lawyer defending the “spell-casting” broker, demanded that Al-Qathami bring the genie to court so that his statements could be heard
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:54 am

here are some jokes and satire works that came about the case :mrgreen:


I swear officer, it was not me who crossed the traffic light, it was a genie!
والله يا عسكري مو أنا إللي قطعت الإشارة. هذا جني


الجني الذي دخل القاضي ماعنده حساب في تويتر نريده في حاله مستعجله
Does the genie have a Twitter account? He is needed in an urgent case!


للإشتراك في دورة تدريببة من 5 أيام:: مهارات اختيار الجني الكفؤ، المقاعد محدوده
Five day workshop: “How to Pick a Genie Efficiently” subscribe now, limited number of seats


مطلوب للعمل: جني لإدارة استثمارات شركة خاصة
Needed: a genie to work for a private investment company


مرة أول تعاون جني-سعودي الفيلم السينمائي ليلة القبض على جني المدينة-تصنيف الفيلم:خيال\أطفال
First Saudi/Genie cinema production: “The Night the Medina Genie was Arrested” - Genre: Family / Fantasy / Comedy

أنا جالس أفكر أسوي شركة مساهمة لإستقدام الجن وذلك لخدمة البلد في السرقة والإساد اسميها اختصارًا فسادجنكو

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Paddington Bear » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:10 am

I was not shockd by the judge and his crazy claim as much as I was shocked by the ruqya practitioner who confirmed the story. :mrgreen:
These practitioners are nuts! One of them recently killed a mentally sick girl through the use of electric shocks and beatings (of course, the Jinni was blamed). :mrgreen:

But this is exactly what I was talking about in that other thread. Such stories force even the biggest geel jire to stop and think about things. In the end, the only way will be up.

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Garaad_LQ » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:11 am

:lol: :lol: let's blame it on the Jinni

even when they tortured the poor Indonesian maid to death their excuse was that she dealing with Jinns shacwadah and black magic



مرة أول تعاون جني-سعودي الفيلم السينمائي ليلة القبض على جني المدينة-تصنيف الفيلم:خيال\أطفال

:lol: :lol:

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:45 am

I was not shockd by the judge and his crazy claim as much as I was shocked by the ruqya practitioner who confirmed the story. :mrgreen:
These practitioners are nuts! One of them recently killed a mentally sick girl through the use of electric shocks and beatings (of course, the Jinni was blamed). :mrgreen:

But this is exactly what I was talking about in that other thread. Such stories force even the biggest geel jire to stop and think about things. In the end, the only way will be up.
the ruqia recitor is the man,he held it down for his homie so far,but the problem is if the judge decides to bring in the jinni on the witness stand like the other lawyer is asking.how is he gonna come up with a Jinni :mrgreen:
I suspect he is gonna bring the accused judge and make him change his voice as if the Jinni is talking,some brilliant stuff.
did u notice how ibn baaz's fatwa has been taken advantage of too?

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Navy9 » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:43 am

Well Jinnis are there but how some humans use them as a scapegoat is funny! The Somali version is when oldies use "the wadadah" and "the fardaha" and there is this famous Somali song played at the wedding (don't remember its name) were few women just act as if they are possessed.

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Paddington Bear » Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:05 pm

I was not shockd by the judge and his crazy claim as much as I was shocked by the ruqya practitioner who confirmed the story. :mrgreen:
These practitioners are nuts! One of them recently killed a mentally sick girl through the use of electric shocks and beatings (of course, the Jinni was blamed). :mrgreen:

But this is exactly what I was talking about in that other thread. Such stories force even the biggest geel jire to stop and think about things. In the end, the only way will be up.
the ruqia recitor is the man,he held it down for his homie so far,but the problem is if the judge decides to bring in the jinni on the witness stand like the other lawyer is asking.how is he gonna come up with a Jinni :mrgreen:
I suspect he is gonna bring the accused judge and make him change his voice as if the Jinni is talking,some brilliant stuff.
did u notice how ibn baaz's fatwa has been taken advantage of too?
Yes. But if (when) the judge is convicted, will he or will the Jinni be the one that goes to jail? :mrgreen:
Now Saudi doctors are demanding that the authorities "regulate" the ruqya sector. I would love to know how such a madness can be regulated! I bet it will have something to do with being certified (no, not that kind :mrgreen: ) or passing a course that means you're a qualified ruqya expert. Imagine that! A course that teaches you to speak to Jinn!

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:21 pm


Yes. But if (when) the judge is convicted, will he or will the Jinni be the one that goes to jail? :mrgreen:
Now Saudi doctors are demanding that the authorities "regulate" the ruqya sector. I would love to know how such a madness can be regulated! I bet it will have something to do with being certified (no, not that kind :mrgreen: ) or passing a course that means you're a qualified ruqya expert. Imagine that! A course that teaches you to speak to Jinn!
war jinnigu waa imtixaan,he already started name dropping and gave out info about his associates,a snitch jinni :mrgreen: .
I cant see the judge going to the jail honestly,he is a clever MOFO and took advantage of that legal lope hole,who/how can they prove there is no jinni in him bal :?
as far as regulating that sector,waa iska hadal.it just means now the government will make money off of the certification process and the mullahs gonna have to go to classes,earn a certificate and take a photo op with the trainer.then everybody will go home and back to doing biz as usual with their hurjum harjac stuff :mrgreen:

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Hyperactive » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:39 pm

i stopped taking these people seriously.
every Chanel that none sense jin!! inallilah.

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:43 pm

i stopped taking these people seriously.
every Chanel that none sense jin!! inallilah.
u dont believe in jinn? :shock: on a side note though how does it feel to host the world cup in 2022 :mrgreen:

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Hyperactive » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:47 pm

i stopped taking these people seriously.
every Chanel that none sense jin!! inallilah.
u dont believe in jinn? :shock: on a side note though how does it feel to host the world cup in 2022 :mrgreen:
of course i do believe it as states in the quran.
but some of my rer abti making it business and every Chanel qof ba jini galay laka bi7inaya!!

it feels not too bad, but i'll be too old for that fun, probably i;ll be graduated from shaeri3a wal qanon and be some kind of sheikh inshallah :)

so i wont have this youthful life i do now, you know i will be inshallah 31 years old with kids :)

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby samadoon-waaxid » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:59 pm

dont worry bro,31 is still young enough to go and watch games.so u half qatari? :shock:
on the other hand,how many somali athletes do they have in qatar now a days,last time I watched the arab championships in middle and long distance,i met 3 to 4 somali brothers and I hear the number is increasing?

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Re: a Jinni in Saudi court

Postby Hyperactive » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:02 pm

nope half Yemeni. but when i say my rer abti, i talk as arab in general.

i guess couple now, some got too old i guess, plus here we do not mix with each other.

somalida wey kala 3araran.lol

ive never went school with somali, hadey somali so dakan aktaada you gotta move or they move next day. :lol:


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