If Unity Fails, Why Can't Clan States Be Created ?

Knight of Wisdom · Postby **Knight of Wisdom** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:47 pm

It seems to me that, after 21 years of anarchy in Somalia, the turmoil isn't coming to an end. Two states now exist (Somaliland, Puntland), whom are officially recognized as "States within Somalia". So, my question is, why can't there be more "States within Somalia" for each clan to create and administer it's own affairs. Wouldn't that create less problem?

greenday · Postby **greenday** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:54 pm

21? I think 20th anniversary without a government is coming up.I think we should mark it by all coming and saying we want nabad because we need a day to end it all. Everyone just says today Somalia is reborn.

And people are doing that now. It’s just that putland and Somaliland are a bit ahead.

Knight of Wisdom · Postby **Knight of Wisdom** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:57 pm

21? I think 20th anniversary without a government is coming up.I think we should mark it by all coming and saying we want nabad because we need a day to end it all. Everyone just says today Somalia is reborn.

And people are doing that now. It’s just that putland and Somaliland are a bit ahead.

Every criminal who partook in the Civil War is alive, without any charges against them. Their sons have been fed with the animosity of the Somali state and it's clans. They too roam around without any consequences of their actions.

Each child that borns in Northern Somalia, is fed with Separatist ideology. They too, want the destruction of Somalia. I, for one...know that Somalia is literally gone, unless we all CREATE clan-States that will resemble like that of the "Greek City-States"...such as Sparta, Athens, and so forth.

LiquidHYDROGEN · Postby **LiquidHYDROGEN** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:00 pm

At least the greek city states came together to unite against a common enemy i.e. Persia. Somalis can't even do that against xabashi.

Knight of Wisdom · Postby **Knight of Wisdom** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:02 pm

At least the greek city states came together to unite against a common enemy i.e. Persia. Somalis can't even do that against xabashi.

Xabashis aren't the enemy.

Wait, aren't they the ones that will destroy the Kabaah? So technically, they're the enemy of the Arabs, not the Somalis.

greenday · Postby **greenday** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:05 pm

21? I think 20th anniversary without a government is coming up.I think we should mark it by all coming and saying we want nabad because we need a day to end it all. Everyone just says today Somalia is reborn.

And people are doing that now. It’s just that putland and Somaliland are a bit ahead.
Every criminal who partook in the Civil War is alive, without any charges against them. Their sons have been fed with the animosity of the Somali state and it's clans. They too roam around without any consequences of their actions.

Each child that borns in Northern Somalia, is fed with Separatist ideology. They too, want the destruction of Somalia. I, for one...know that Somalia is literally gone, unless we all CREATE clan-States that will resemble like that of the "Greek City-States"...such as Sparta, Athens, and so forth.

Who will bring them to justice without peace? Let’s just forget who did what and move on then. When we have a stable government we can start to sue them for what they did to each individual.
You can’t just say Somalia is gone as long as the land is there, so is Somalia. Britain is made of four states and they all have a British passport. So I don’t mind this state thing so long as people don’t build borders because in time people intergrade and coming from that state would mean nothing.

quark · Postby **quark** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:11 pm

its really sad, but thats where we are heading. seems folks who share the same language,culture, and religion cant live in peace then its better we all go our separate ways.

Knight of Wisdom · Postby **Knight of Wisdom** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:16 pm

Who will bring them to justice without peace? Let’s just forget who did what and move on then. When we have a stable government we can start to sue them for what they did to each individual.
You can’t just say Somalia is gone as long as the land is there, so is Somalia. Britain is made of four states and they all have a British passport. So I don’t mind this state thing so long as people don’t build borders because in time people intergrade and coming from that state would mean nothing.

Well, I guess...we have no choice, but for each clan to it's own ! Somalia never existed, and I make this statement due to knowing that SOMALIA should've been (British-Somaliland, Italian-Somaliland, French-Somaliland, Ethiopian-Somaliland, and Kenyan-Somaliland)....only TWO united, meaning if all FIVE didn't unite, then there was really NO SOMALIA to begin with. lol

Khalid Ali · Postby **Khalid Ali** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:20 pm

Somaliland is not a clan state its a multi tribal society where all Sl clan coexist together. The republic of Somaliland
is the successor state to the State of Somaliland the country that gained independence from The United Kingdom 26 june 1960.

Knight of Wisdom · Postby **Knight of Wisdom** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:26 pm

Somaliland is not a clan state its a multi tribal society where all Sl clan coexist together. The republic of Somaliland
is the successor state to the State of Somaliland the country that gained independence from The United Kingdom 26 june 1960.

That's your OWN opinion, a biased one, waliba ! lol

Somalia was a NOT a clan-state, but it became a "country" based on Tribal warfare. Somaliland or Isaaqland is the same. It's ONE-clan dominated.

If Somaliland consists of all the territories settled by the Isaaq-clan, then I'm sure the rest of the Clans in the north can have their territory as a separate State !

Khalid Ali · Postby **Khalid Ali** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:28 pm

Somaliland is not a clan state its a multi tribal society where all Sl clan coexist together. The republic of Somaliland
is the successor state to the State of Somaliland the country that gained independence from The United Kingdom 26 june 1960.
That's your OWN opinion, a biased one, waliba ! lol

Somalia was a NOT a clan-state, but it became a "country" based on Tribal warfare. Somaliland or Isaaqland is the same. It's ONE-clan dominated.

If Somaliland consists of all the territories settled by the Isaaq-clan, then I'm sure the rest of the Clans in the north can have their territory as a separate State !

Somaliland is far from a clan state Somaliland allows u to vote for your leaders in 2003 we elected a leader from Awdal one man one vote all Somaliland clans are equal.

Knight of Wisdom · Postby **Knight of Wisdom** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:33 pm

Somaliland is far from a clan state Somaliland allows u to vote for your leaders in 2003 we elected a leader from Awdal one man one vote all Somaliland clans are equal.

Yet...this is the reality !

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grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:34 pm

I am working on the boundaries and borders of Jubbaland I hope 2011, will be the year it is declared in Kismayo.

Khalid Ali · Postby **Khalid Ali** » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:36 pm

Somaliland is far from a clan state Somaliland allows u to vote for your leaders in 2003 we elected a leader from Awdal one man one vote all Somaliland clans are equal.
Yet...this is the reality !

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propaganda made by diaspora members no one fled laascanood and even if a few people left they all returned There is no war in laascanood there was no war to begin with Bintiland fled when we came

Do these people look like they are occupied

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